It doesn't matter. The performance was not magically better in Mojave when 32 bit was supported. Not sure why that's part of the argument. It has been like this for all of time. Windows has been far superior in gaming for decades.
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It doesn't matter. The performance was not magically better in Mojave when 32 bit was supported. Not sure why that's part of the argument. It has been like this for all of time. Windows has been far superior in gaming for decades.
I'm not arguing that.
You're still missing my point. You stated that windows is far superior and its not apple' fault and I'm saying there is some culpability on apple's part. That is their actions made the gaming on mac harder, that's all.
As far as graphics are concerned, that’s been far from my experience. The Windows versions of games have always performed far better in Boot Camp than the equivalent Mac version. I mentioned it because the benchmark result was so unusual and entirely unexpected. For a long time Apple neglected graphics (OpenGL support anyone?). Maybe with Metal things are starting to change and the software gap is shrinking.
For specific Apple hardware like the trackpad, Touch Bar or True Tone, sure: Apple doesn’t bother to make the experience as good in Windows. Far from it. But it’s still not bad and is very useable. Also, the graphics drivers are essentially made by AMD and are just distributed by Apple; and even cynical me doesn’t think they go out of their way to cripple them.
What they are guilty of is not letting AMD distribute the Mac drivers (for some reason) or distribute more frequent updates themselves. It’s entirely possible there are bugs that AMD have since fixed, or it’s a problem with the benchmark itself. Whether the drivers from BootCampDrivers.com improve things I don’t know. I did notice that the 1080p benchmark only occupied a portion of the screen, which was a problem many reported in certain games before it got fixed with the bootcampdriver.com updates. There could be any number of things going on to explain this discrepancy, but I do think it’s an exception.
I might try another benchmark. Any suggestions?
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The PC has no value unlike other computers such as as Atari, Amiga and other computers, no trade in and nobody will pay for a used PC... example, a new ten thousand dollar gaming PC that devalues after the box is opened and a
couple of years later cannot be traded in two get money or to purchase another PC for a little less....unlike apple products...it's like throwing money in a trash can...one of the only reasons it sells to the general public is the gaming aspect.
The standard desktop (all desktops) will become oppsolete and replaced by portable or handheld PC's...the point is Windows is ripe with with security issues and the wintel boxes have no value for trade-in.
Laptops can be and that cool looking Alienware UFO portable PC could be traded in at recycling electronic firms or a game shop like GameStop or another game store because of the uniqueness of the hardware and is the future of computers.
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Still don't know what your point is. This thread is about Windows, the operating system.
You do like to conflate issues by bringing up other aspects.
I love my Macs. That said, my ~11 year old Gateway Tower is still running on the latest Windows 10 release. How many ~11 year old Macs run Catalina with zero hacks?
I thought gateways we're good computers until they were bought out...about apple that's how they design there computers...Windows is not always compatible with older software except games.
Have you got any citation or proof for how Windows is not "always compatible with older software except games", or you just projecting?
Why does it have to be only one OS is any good? Tribal much?
whatever else is true, this isn't a thread about windows, it's a combative thread claiming 'windows is just better'... placed on a mac forum. so hard to consider the ground rules, when the initial post throws them all out...
I am not sure how dropping 32-bit support suddenly makes it Apple's fault that gaming is not as good as Windows. It has never been Apple's fault. Developers go to Windows as its the primary platform, so they focus their game on Windows. Sometimes the ports on macOS are just done by third parties which could also affect the performance of the port.
Apple cannot offer Direct X on macOS, its a Microsoft Exclusive. So I fail to see how this is even 1% Apple's fault. Similarly that is no fault to any companies or the community for having Linux have poor gaming performance either. Direct X is just preferred and is what is optimized. Besides, most game developers never start from scratch, this is why Unreal and Unity are so popular. Those are better suited for Windows environments.
Even if Apple makes the BEST gaming platform possible, Windows still has such a large marketshare that performance optimizations and resources will be focused on the Windows version.
Gaming on Linux is just as hard, maybe even more difficult. I tried it with the Valve games, and I still get a massive FPS drop on the same hardware vs running the same game on Windows.
Well some users reported Windows 10X is a cross of 10 and Vista look in sub menus! There is article talking the look calked What Is Windows 10X and how it is different! So it looks like the end of the geek internal hacks and such are getting sandbox! The end of Windows geeks will get upset at the new OS security system and locking down the OS!
I am actually okay with this. I have had to help fix many computers with weird customizations (weird pointers that were hard to see and an entire transformation that included a dock like macOS). All those customizability options makes troubleshooting more difficult. But this is Microsoft we are talking about - a company that kills off more products than I have seen and never keeps their names. What happened to Windows RT? Windows Mobile? Windows 8.0 UI? Windows 10 S (which is a mess)?
I know of many geeks that will have Vista nightmares about Window10X. It brings back bad memories for me!
Shock, horror. Another patch Tuesday release creates problems for users.
Windows 10’s latest updates are causing havoc with printers
Ricoh printers seem to be the worst affected
Now, remind me again how Windows is just better? Better than what exactly?
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After 3 weeks at least provide the correct link
Dammit! Bloody Mac to iPhone pasting...
No, that is just your view. Others do share it of course but numbers of users vs complainers? Tiny.
And then you mock your whole post by yourself so soon after the release of Catalina, which even Apple themselves admit was a shambles.
I 100% agreed with you on that window is yuck
the best windows I ever used was window XP and window 7 after that windows went down hill
I think this whole thread is just designed to get "fans" (Not allowed to use that other term) of one OS to talk smack about the other OS. In reality it's like saying a ball peen hammer is better than a claw hammer. Use the right tool for the job. I have computers running Windows 10, macOS and Chrome OS. None are "better" and with my uses I would be inconvenienced if I didn't have one.
mac os works better on my macbook and imac than... oh wait, i only use mac os.
who cares? we use what we want, we get our work done, or, if we have issues, come to forums like this to hopefully get help (or, sadly, whine a lot).
Please, elaborate
See.... I read those statements and this is how I interpret them:
Tomi03: " Windows 10 works better on my MacBook Pro than macOS. Simple as that. "
My interpretation of that statement: "Windows 10 works better on my MacBook Pro than macOS for me. Simple as that."
I nod my head in agreement and smile.
As someone who HAS to use Windows 10, I agree.
I agree with that. After reading that Windows 10 is just better and that it works better for those who use it if their experience is as such - great!
I like strawberry cake but on occasion I would also eat a chocolate cake. Strawberries are red and I like that color when I eat strawberry cake.
In other words, I couldn't help but be a little sarcastic.
We all, myself included, could learn to nod our head in agreements for situations like the one mentioned by the thread starter. As long as it isn't a world ending-decision.