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milo

macrumors 604
Sep 23, 2003
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Aztechian said:
Funny how to make the CD for installing XP on a mac, you have to have a PC...

If there's a way to do it in OS X, then we've got something. Would toast do it?

I would bet it would. I have yet to see a disk image that couldn't be burned on the mac.

jblodgett said:
Well-- I'm waiting to see somebody actually give me some REAL data on this thing.

What's the speed like?
What's the driver situation?
Graphics?
Sound?
Games?????????

Waiting? The real data is out. You just need to quit being lazy and read the damn thread.
 

calculus

Guest
Dec 12, 2005
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varmatheone said:
OMG. Putting OSX and windows on the same disk would breed new viruses, with abnormal DNA that will destroy the whole world:eek: . Narf should'nt hav done it.:D
Natural selection is a wonderful thing
 

Steve1496

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2004
600
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jblodgett said:
Well-- I'm waiting to see somebody actually give me some REAL data on this thing.

What's the speed like?
What's the driver situation?
Graphics?
Sound?
Games?????????

Reportedly,
Speed is overall very good.
Drivers are being discovered. We've got all networking working, and I believe chipset too.
Graphics is a problem. There aren't any good x1600M drivers for Windows, at least nobody has found any.
No sound yet through iMac speakers, but headphones work through optical out
Games, well read the graphics problem. Right now graphics are poor until we get good drivers.
 

FocusAndEarnIt

macrumors 601
May 29, 2005
4,627
1,108
Steve1496 said:
Reportedly,
Speed is overall very good.
Drivers are being discovered. We've got all networking working, and I believe chipset too.
Graphics is a problem. There aren't any good x1600M drivers for Windows, at least nobody has found any.
No sound yet through iMac speakers, but headphones work through optical out
Games, well read the graphics problem. Right now graphics are poor until we get good drivers.
Wow! Very interesting! Graphic drivers will be out soon, isn't this a brand new graphics chip? I don't know much about graphics cards, just a little bit, I'm not a gamer.

::EDIT:: ---2,000th POST! w00t :D
 

calculus

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Dec 12, 2005
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Steve1496 said:
Reportedly,
Speed is overall very good.
Drivers are being discovered. We've got all networking working, and I believe chipset too.
Graphics is a problem. There aren't any good x1600M drivers for Windows, at least nobody has found any.
No sound yet through iMac speakers, but headphones work through optical out
Games, well read the graphics problem. Right now graphics are poor until we get good drivers.
Fantastic achievement!
 

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macrumors newbie
Sep 21, 2005
21
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Spain
easy-reset-griffin.jpg



griffin should start doing this stuff to fix apple's design error... ¡no reset button! :D
 

whooleytoo

macrumors 604
Aug 2, 2002
6,607
716
Cork, Ireland.
DTphonehome said:
Dude, yeah, I know that, but just like people won't use the term "niggardly" anymore (go look it up, it has nothing to do with race) for fear of being misunderstood, so too the term "final solution" has come to be associated with Naziism. Try using the term "white power" to describe the brilliance of the color white. Let me know what people think of that.

Funny that this argument popped up on a thread about 'how to make your Mac more PC!" :p
 

MacsRgr8

macrumors G3
Sep 8, 2002
8,316
1,832
The Netherlands
dejo said:
You need a PC? That's highlarious! Well, that stops quite a number of people who were going to try this from being able to.

Knowing the way the Maxxuss-patched 10.4.x for Generic Intel DVD's were shared, I'm pretty sure the pre-patched XP SP2 for Mac Intel CD will be available very, very shortly online somewhere.....

This IS ofcourse illegal.
 

Chupa Chupa

macrumors G5
Jul 16, 2002
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unigolyn said:
Should've included sarcasm tags. Calling Dvoraks fevered ravings a 'theory' is giving them astronomically excessive credit. I mean, if you look at the "evidence" that he based his column on, he could easily extrapolate that blanka and narf were simply the victims of Apple's ingenious plan to cut development costs by outsourcing it to Mac geeks and hackers, full-blown Windows adoption being 'just around the corner now'.


Yeah, your comment with the sarcasm tag has a whole different context. :D I just read it like you were being straight. You are right though...Dvorak will probably feel empowered to write a column on how this means Apple is dooooomed. Actually, he could just dust off an old column and update it.
 

suntzu

macrumors regular
Sep 20, 2003
145
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Steve1496 said:
Reportedly,
Speed is overall very good.
Drivers are being discovered. We've got all networking working, and I believe chipset too.
Graphics is a problem. There aren't any good x1600M drivers for Windows, at least nobody has found any.
No sound yet through iMac speakers, but headphones work through optical out
Games, well read the graphics problem. Right now graphics are poor until we get good drivers.

I thought the graphics did work just not on the Mac mini (because it's using Intel's graphics accelerator).

ATI has a unified driver like nVidia's. So it's not a matter of finding good drivers, it's a matter of find those beta drivers that are so abundant on the nVidia side.
 

phil989

macrumors newbie
Feb 16, 2006
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dlpmaster said:
Pretty kol..
but what about if a user is working on Mac Only based programs and want to tranfer stuff from Windows only files or something? Will people have the availability to run both OS' at the same time.. like have one account under windows and another under OSX ?
Maybe that could be taken into consideration?

whoa slow down guys! sure this is a neat idea, but so are flying cars. i think its pretty amazing that this has been achieved in such a small timeframe. i know little about this, but running windows WITHIN mac os x, or visa verse, sounds a whole lot more difficult.

Phil
 

balamw

Moderator emeritus
Aug 16, 2005
19,365
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New England
Steve1496 said:
Drivers are being discovered. We've got all networking working, and I believe chipset too.
Does that include wireless (AirPort) networking? If so, any reports if it is suffering the same fate as under OS X where it doesn't seem particularly robust?

B
 

Steve1496

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2004
600
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suntzu said:
I thought the graphics did work just not on the Mac mini (because it's using Intel's graphics accelerator).

ATI has a unified driver like nVidia's. So it's not a matter of finding good drivers, it's a matter of find those beta drivers that are so abundant on the nVidia side.


What do you mean? Blanka worked with a Mac Mini tester and fixed the Mac Mini, so mini works now. As for drivers for the Intel graphics, I don't think that'd be hard to find.

ATI Catlyst drivers do not work for the iMacs, and MBP.
 

nylon

macrumors 65816
Oct 26, 2004
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Here's a Flickr set of XP up and running on a Macbook Pro. The pics show the bootloader as well as the components in Device manager that need drivers. I believe all the driver issues have been sorted out except the Video Card (X1600) and the Built in Camera. Enjoy!!

XP on a Macbook Pro

I'm so close to buying an intel Mac I can taste it. Must resist....for now.
 

Steve1496

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2004
600
0
balamw said:
Does that include wireless (AirPort) networking? If so, any reports if it is suffering the same fate as under OS X where it doesn't seem particularly robust?

B


Yeah, someone found a Dell that had the same specs and tried that driver, and it works for wireless. The Marvell Yukon driver works for Ethernet too.

I'm not sure if there's stability issues (I never had this problem with my iMac), because all the sites with those reports/info are down due to overloads.
 

dejo

Moderator emeritus
Sep 2, 2004
15,982
452
The Centennial State
MacsRgr8 said:
...I'm pretty sure the pre-patched XP SP2 for Mac Intel CD will be available very, very shortly online somewhere.....

This IS of course illegal.

Hmm. Since I think there were a number of forum members here who were hoping to be able to legally run Windows and Mac OS X side-by-side on their new Mac.
 

MacsRgr8

macrumors G3
Sep 8, 2002
8,316
1,832
The Netherlands
dejo said:
Hmm. Since I think there were a number of forum members here who were hoping to be able to legally run Windows and Mac OS X side-by-side on their new Mac.

Oh.. they still can ;)

But this wil help you out if you haven't got a "real" PC... but do own a legal copy of XP SP2 :p
 

dejo

Moderator emeritus
Sep 2, 2004
15,982
452
The Centennial State
simie said:
You probably have already heard, but the contest is over...

Yeah, um, that's the title of this thread.

simie said:
The few short-comings their solution has will quickly be fixed by the large open source community!

I'm hoping that includes fixing the short-coming of requiring a PC to create the install CD. I'd like to see a way of getting that done via Mac, without breaking any laws.
 
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