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Windows XP Booting on Mac Contest Over

INSTALL NOTE:

If you cant read, like mrplow and myself, and you make the partitions backwards, when you go back to correct it (and thus reinstall OSX AGAIN!) it will not allow install on either partition.

To fix, first use "erase" on the harddrive and format the entire volume in MacOS Journalized, then use partition and make the 2 partitions correctly.

Worked for me at least..now to wait while the OS's install.

edit: none of these x1600 drivers working really sux; that is the point of running dual boot rather than emulation!
 
milo said:
Dual boot doesn't run windows apps "easily". It runs them, but it's a pain since you have to reboot the machine. And the motivation for writing OSX versions is that they will sell. They'll be bought by the 90% of mac users who won't do this AND the 10% who do.

No MS office? Doubtful since for every 1 mac user who switched to the XP version you'd have 10 who would stick with the last released version or find other office apps.

Mac market share is on the rise, and this may boost it even more. Go look at the news reports of this on PC sites and read all the comments from PC users saying that now they're finally willing to buy a mac. If you make a mac version, mac users will buy it. Period. And if you don't make a mac version, customers will be more likely to buy a competing product that does have a mac version than a PC version that requires a reboot.

OS2 isn't much of a comparison since it never had much of a user base to start with.



So Rob, does that mean you're willing to spring for one? Sounds like you can afford to if you think a few hundred bucks can be tossed away that easily.
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How naive. I'm not talking about the current, very balky, solution. I'm talking about something like "fast user switching" or "seamless". It won't be long until we have that.

Something other than Office? For many, many users, that is not an option.

BTW, OS/2 had marketshare >10% at its peak. What is OS/X now... 4%? Don't get me wrong, I love my Mac, but after living through the war between OS/2 and the (much inferior) Windows products of its time, I'm more than a little apprehensive.

-Tim
 
Steve1496 said:
No that's correct if your partition is over 32GB you gotta use NTFS. Nothing went wrong here. I recommend the Quick format.
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weird. i used quick format and it restarted when it was done. took out the cd while the computer was starting and selected xp. nothing happened, it stood still for 5mins.
 
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Hey Steve,

I tried setting up my 20" iMac but it hangs after patching (before the xp installation screen). Any chance you could send me the file and I'll try it?

Thanks,

Alex
 
tknelson said:
BTW, OS/2 had marketshare >10% at its peak. What is OS/X now... 4%? Don't get me wrong, I love my Mac, but after living through the war between OS/2 and the (much inferior) Windows products of its time, I'm more than a little apprehensive.

-Tim
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Here, here! It's never enough to have a better product. I bet anyone here can make a better hamburger than McDonald's, but just try to take them on as a business.

At the time OS/2 had an even bigger gap of features and functionality than OSX has over XP now, but it couldn't beat the ubiquity of Microsoft.

-rich
 
cicciu said:
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Hey Steve,

I tried setting up my 20" iMac but it hangs after patching (before the xp installation screen). Any chance you could send me the file and I'll try it?

Thanks,

Alex
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As soon as Blanka is out of his meeting he'll get the xom.efi ready. It's not released yet, so don't bother with current versions. We got exactly what we were looking for (and boy was it a process--i had to keep guessing at the fill size hundreds of times to get it going!).
 
I give till 10am tomorrow

amazing, instructions released today and with in 24 hours it looks like most of the drivers will be found ,I just want to say... good job guys .... its a huge world effort to get it going asap... freakin awesome...wahooo


. you know what amazes me is we have all this so called bandwidth out there but yet sites keep getting knocked out by the huge traffic of surfers.

just my 2cents. NOW GET BACK TO WORk...

LOL
:) :) :) :) :D
 
mac mini chipset

will any of the intels chipset listed links work for the mini or just a certain one
 
My crazy vision is of a mac running windows officially licensed by apple only to run games software.
 
Well, some of you might think that I am crazy. but i am serious.

I have three computers at home, a G4 mini, an intel iMac, and a 6-year-old dell in an ugly beige box. My wife and I occationally need to use the PC. I have been thinking of replacing it with a newer machine but I couldn't find a PC box that has the look that I likes. Now I found one: new intel mac mini.

The new mac mini will run windows most of the time. Don't tell me that it doesn't make sense to you. I love my macs, but i need a PC, and seriously I could find a PC box that is as sleek as the mac mini. Besides, with new features available in vista, I can put it by my HDTV and use it to record and replay TV.
 
Has anyone thought about installing MacDrive Pro onto the IntelMac to see HFS partitions?
 
kyeblue said:
Besides, with new features available in vista, I can put it by my HDTV and use it to record and replay TV.
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You can do that now with an eyeTV 500 in Mac OS X. (No fun Front Row interface for it, but it can be done.)
 
Steve1496 said:
Needs to be setBoot not setboot. Case-sensitive.

Aztechian,
As far as I know it just tells which file in the current directory to bless.

Update on iMac 20" Progress: We're going to release a xom.efi for 20" iMac users. My Nero is acting up and won't record a proper disc. Anyways, we need anyone who owns a 20" iMac to test it and get back to us.

Thanks!!
Steve
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I'll be happy to test when i get home tonight
 
iSee said:
Your logic is flawed: In each scenario, you assume a Mac user would choose the Windows solution over an available Mac solution. :confused: Why would they do that??? If they perferred the Windows software to the Mac software, they would have bought a Dell, not a Mac, in the first place.

I'm sorry, but what you are saying makes no sense.
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It's got nothing to do with preference. Most Mac users that *NEED* software will make do with distinctly average software because that is all there is available for them natively on the Mac. Generally we're ok in most sectors but I pointed out three where we don't have the market leader. Accounting, CAD and 3D. Could you imagine if we didn't have Photoshop on the Mac?

To flesh out one example, do you use Mac accounting software? It's pretty bad. Windows packages are head and shoulders better and most accountants are on Windows. There's more choice too. Just to be compatible filing your returns, it makes sense to use Windows software often unless you can find a rare accountant that does Macs.

If all I was doing was running accounting software then I'd buy that Dell. As it is I run MYOB about once a week on my Mac which is 99% of the time being used for web design and programming. MYOB is distinctly average software that has been kicking around with the same poor interface since OS7 days. Underneath it's ok but it's very quirky. Now however, I have the option of running something else with Windows on my Mac instead of MYOB on MacOSX. I no longer have to put up with poorly written Mac software.

See what I'm getting at yet? If the best Mac software isn't as good as the Windows software in that sector, it won't get used at all. Some will say that's a good thing as now Mac software developers have to compete against leading Windows packages in free competition where they had none before. I somewhat agree. The problem is, many of the Mac developers are small outfits that don't have the resources to go head to head up against Microsoft or AutoDesk or Sage or whatever mainstream companies developing Windows only software. If users start using Windows software instead of their Mac software, for whatever reason, the developers market gets smaller.

Some will say 'Bring it On' and produce software that is much better than the competition on Windows. Others will just die, because they can't compete against the Windows juggernaut.

I'd also dispute the market share thing. If you're the only small fish in a small pond then you can be quite happy swimming away happy in the knowledge that you own the pond. If you're suddenly an even smaller fish tossed into the ocean you've got to swim a lot harder to not get swallowed by a shark.


Apple has it's work cut out now to make sure it keeps developers happy and keeps them writing native applications. And they need to intensify their efforts to get leading Windows developers to develop for MacOSX.
 
ThomasM said:
weird. i used quick format and it restarted when it was done. took out the cd while the computer was starting and selected xp. nothing happened, it stood still for 5mins.
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Leave the disc in... if you pull it out the boot hangs.

instead, press f2 several times WHILE you press Enter to accept the Windows boot and the installer will pick up where it left off from the HD.

I got stuck there too.

=)
 
RichP said:
INSTALL NOTE:

If you cant read, like mrplow and myself, and you make the partitions backwards, when you go back to correct it (and thus reinstall OSX AGAIN!) it will not allow install on either partition.

To fix, first use "erase" on the harddrive and format the entire volume in MacOS Journalized, then use partition and make the 2 partitions correctly.

Worked for me at least..now to wait while the OS's install.

edit: none of these x1600 drivers working really sux; that is the point of running dual boot rather than emulation!
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you make me feel so much better hahaha
 
jared_kipe said:
For XP it was like, "oh wow NTFS, thats gonna be awesome".
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NTFS was part of Windows NT 3.1 about 15 years ago.... Anybody who thought that it was new with XP was a few cards short of a full deck.
 
geoffrevB said:
My crazy vision is of a mac running windows officially licensed by apple only to run games software.
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Never going to happen. That would be Apple sending a big F U to it's OSX developers.
 
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