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AidenShaw

macrumors P6
Feb 8, 2003
18,667
4,677
The Peninsula
Lol

jmbear said:
Consumers, now you can natively run Windows on the best looking and best performing computers in the world.
"best looking" subjective, at best.

IMO, white plastic is so 20th century, and the big blank space under the screen of the iMac completely destroys its proportions... Ugly.

MBP - there's a line between "minimalist" and "boring". The MBP is way over the line on the boring side.

de gustibus non disputandum est

OTOH, "best performing" - when every single chip and component is identical to other commodity PC vendors?
 

QuarterSwede

macrumors G3
Oct 1, 2005
9,880
2,155
Colorado Springs, CO
aegisdesign said:
Never going to happen. That would be Apple sending a big F U to it's OSX developers.
Especially since games tend to run better on OS X when they are written properly for it and don't have tons of Windows garbage still in the code from being ported.

The hard part is getting devs to write clean game code for OS X.
 

Steve1496

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2004
600
0
joelypolly said:
I'll be happy to test when i get home tonight


Thanks! So far we've got graphics loaded, but there is a problem. Setup gets stuck at Setup is copying files (0%) and it seems its killing devices during install too (for example the Caps Lock light won't work on the keyboard).

Can you try this and see if you have the same issue?
 

beatle888

macrumors 68000
Feb 3, 2002
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0
AidenShaw said:
"best looking" subjective, at best.

IMO, white plastic is so 20th century, and the big blank space under the screen of the iMac completely destroys its proportions... Ugly.

MBP - there's a line between "minimalist" and "boring". The MBP is way over the line on the boring side.

de gustibus non disputandum est

OTOH, "best performing" - when every single chip and component is identical to other commodity PC vendors?


cant figure you out Shaw. WHY do you come here? you really have a lot of time on your hands i guess.
 

ModestPenguin

macrumors 6502
Mar 5, 2006
437
0
OKC
AidenShaw said:
"best looking" subjective, at best.

IMO, white plastic is so 20th century, and the big blank space under the screen of the iMac completely destroys its proportions... Ugly.

MBP - there's a line between "minimalist" and "boring". The MBP is way over the line on the boring side.

de gustibus non disputandum est

OTOH, "best performing" - when every single chip and component is identical to other commodity PC vendors?


Are you serious? so 20th century? I dont believe that anyone can say that and not laugh. Thats sooo 20th Century And stop being so bitter.
 

aegisdesign

macrumors 6502a
Apr 19, 2005
875
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mark88 said:
Exactly, this is what no-one with this argument seems to understand. People buy macs to run OS X not Windows!

Most people buy computers because they've work to do, not just because of the OS.

On OSX there's gaps in the available software needed to do your job. These can now be filled by running Windows applications. How does this encourage developers to fill those gaps with native OSX applications now they are competing with established Windows applications, often from much larger companies?

As I said, I think this a a BAD THING for the Mac platform in general. It will only be a GOOD THING if it brings in a huge market share shift and Apple and Apple developers can produce some stunning Mac OSX software. I think they will, but it's going to be a risky few years.

Dual booting isn't the answer anyway for apps as switching back and forth is a pain in the arse. When VirtualPC/Q is native, then we've real competition. At the moment I'd guess only game developers have any major concerns as they'll see the market for MacOSX ports dry up with people running the Windows version months before their port is finished.
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
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any prize money for the first person to get a virus on MacXP? cause I tihnk I just won it if so... =\ reinstalling.... (i kept getting an error about this setup.exe trying to execute 16bit code and it couldnt do it (prolly missing from the efi layer) and then whenever i finally installed/run aim the machine just haulted dead....
 

tdewey

macrumors regular
Jul 7, 2003
139
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mrplow said:
any prize money for the first person to get a virus on MacXP? cause I tihnk I just won it if so... =\ reinstalling.... (i kept getting an error about this setup.exe trying to execute 16bit code and it couldnt do it (prolly missing from the efi layer) and then whenever i finally installed/run aim the machine just haulted dead....

Nice post number - looks like your machine is possesd.

All-in-all, very cool. I'm planning on picking up a new Macbook for my wife because of this (assuming they get the video drivers to work).
 

ThomasM

macrumors regular
Jan 6, 2006
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11. After rebooting, do the following:
- Press F2 to disable CD booting (there's no feedback, but you can
press F2 many times, it doesn't hurt). Alternatively, eject the XP CD
as per step 8.
- Choose XP by using the down arrow
- Hit enter.

NOTE: This time the wait is not that long... just sit tight and wait
for about 30 secs.

------------------
i cant get past this stage.
i have the cd in, i press the windows logo and it gets turned upside down. then nothing happens
 

RichP

macrumors 68000
Jun 30, 2003
1,580
33
Motor City
mrplow said:
any prize money for the first person to get a virus on MacXP? cause I tihnk I just won it if so... =\ reinstalling.... (i kept getting an error about this setup.exe trying to execute 16bit code and it couldnt do it (prolly missing from the efi layer) and then whenever i finally installed/run aim the machine just haulted dead....

Whahaa! We are idiotproofing this install! I cant get the damn partitions to work. I set them up correctly, and when windows went to install, it showed my "XP drive" as unpartitioned space.

150px-Mr_Plow.gif
 

mrplow

macrumors member
Sep 18, 2004
75
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RichP said:
Whahaa! We are idiotproofing this install! I cant get the damn partitions to work. I set them up correctly, and when windows went to install, it showed my "XP drive" as unpartitioned space.


you still don't have it working right? ill help you..

soon asi help myself, the 'restore' option didnt show up when i tried to fix my partition? kinda pissin me off.. it hink i ahve to reinstall XP again.. and then install the internet drivers agian.. then dl the updates again.. might hold off on that one until i get it working for a couple days


and did i mention the PC i'm on right now, although has the potential to be very nice (athlon 64) is a royal piece of crap with how much my dad has done to it? there are alteast 4 antiviruses running, 3 firewalls, etc... but guess what- he doesn't like passwords, so of couse we don't worry about that security risk.
 

runninmac

macrumors 65816
Jan 20, 2005
1,494
0
Rockford MI
Oh good job with the new sub-forum it was getting a little hectic with everyone problems in here. So how long is this going to be here for?
 

Stridder44

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2003
3,973
198
California
Buschmaster said:
Did anyone else cringe while reading this?:(


Did I cringe? Do you remember the feeling you got when you watched the Twin Towers fall on 9/11? Ok, so that's a little extreme but you know what Im sayin.
 

me_94501

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2003
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AidenShaw said:
"best looking" subjective, at best.

IMO, white plastic is so 20th century, and the big blank space under the screen of the iMac completely destroys its proportions... Ugly.

MBP - there's a line between "minimalist" and "boring". The MBP is way over the line on the boring side.
What would you suggest as an alternative? blue LEDs? Cheap gray or black plastic? A return to the candy-colored days of yore? :confused:
 

iMeowbot

macrumors G3
Aug 30, 2003
8,634
0
me_94501 said:
What would you suggest as an alternative? blue LEDs? Cheap gray or black plastic? A return to the candy-colored days of yore? :confused:
There is something kind of sterile about recent Apple hardware. With the exception of the AirPort Extreme that hasn't changed much in years, it seems that every Apple product is just a box.

The candy colors are a bit dated, but the graphite stuff in between those and the current bland industrial boxes found a nice middle ground between serious and something with a bit of personality.
 

jmbear

macrumors member
Mar 16, 2006
41
0
Mexico
mark88 said:
How is any Intel Mac 'superior in all aspects' to a [similar spec] PC? please explain. You do realise more or less the exact same components are used in each?

I am a fan boy, I will think Mac is better than Windows regardless if they use the same components. Steve Job's "Reality Distortion Field" caught me at graduation in Stanford, I am now his mindless slave. :eek:
 

AidenShaw

macrumors P6
Feb 8, 2003
18,667
4,677
The Peninsula
me_94501 said:
What would you suggest as an alternative? blue LEDs? Cheap gray or black plastic? A return to the candy-colored days of yore? :confused:
Look at other consumer electronics.... Do you see tacky white plastic 45" LCD TVs? With or without a huge blank white area below the screen?

The "candy-colored days of yore" were mainly from Apple and some accessory vendors.

Only Apple went so low on the style scale as the "dalmation" and "flower power" iMacs. I'm surprised that Ive didn't crawl into a burrow and off himself when those were released.
 

fusionstudios

macrumors member
Mar 13, 2006
38
0
Here's what I want...
A bootleg of windows that would proceed to load Half-Life 2 directly. That way, I could game on my mac without every having to watch in horror as the microsoft logo appears on my screen!
 

jmbear

macrumors member
Mar 16, 2006
41
0
Mexico
AidenShaw said:
"best looking" subjective, at best.

IMO, white plastic is so 20th century, and the big blank space under the screen of the iMac completely destroys its proportions... Ugly.

MBP - there's a line between "minimalist" and "boring". The MBP is way over the line on the boring side.

de gustibus non disputandum est

OTOH, "best performing" - when every single chip and component is identical to other commodity PC vendors?

Performance is not only about hardware, dumbass. Think OS X. And for the "best looking", I guess that is in the eye of the beholder, but the average Joe will think a Mac is "better looking" than mosts PCs. :rolleyes:
 

Demoman

macrumors regular
Mar 29, 2005
194
0
Issaquah, WA
To all of you Mac regulars, who are actually pro-Apple:

Do you know how many Microsoft 'moles' are regular posters here? I am a newbie and read much more than I post (as newbies should). But, I cannot fail to notice that many of the 'regulars', and lower-class, are actually just out to bust Apple's chops. Seems obvious that Brand X does not want too much good stuff being written without slanderous/libelous rebuttal. With all of the high-powered intellect around here, I wondered what the history is.
 

Wes Jordan

macrumors regular
Jan 4, 2006
143
0
I guess the important thing to remember is that some people just do like flash and ugly blinking lights. I realized a long time ago that a vast majority of people are not as design-conscious as me and some people really prefer tacky design to a nice clean look. I love Apple hardware and think it looks gorgeous, and I think any Windows user, no matter how much they hate Apple, would agree that the hardware is superior to any hardware running Windows.
 
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