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nice inky petite sirah with good balance and some spice on the finish.

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What is the difference between Syrah, and "Petite Sirah" as I have never come across the latter?
 
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What is the difference between Syrah, and "Petite Sirah" as I have never come across the latter?

from the web:

"Syrah, Petite Sirah, Shiraz . . . they're all the same, right? Not quite. While all of these grapes produce big, bold, spicy red wines, one of these things varietals is not like the others. In short, Syrah and Shiraz refer to the same grape grown in two different regions, while Petite Sirah is a related but different grape.

Petite Sirah (also known as Durif) came about from cross-pollination between Syrah and Peloursin (a French red grape that's now virtually extinct) in the late 1800s by a botanist named Francois Durif. Petite Sirah never really took off in France, where it was first grown, as it isn't well-suited to the growing climate, but it became popular in California (particularly Sonoma, Napa, and Mendocino), where it thrived.

Even more full bodied, tannic, and bold than its parent grape, Syrah, Petite Sirah tends to be a love it or hate it varietal due to its intensity, whereas Syrah's smoother, refined qualities make it more crowd pleasing. Pair either varietal with similarly big, bold dishes like barbecued or braised beef, and find out for yourself which you prefer."
 
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from the web:

"Syrah, Petite Sirah, Shiraz . . . they're all the same, right? Not quite. While all of these grapes produce big, bold, spicy red wines, one of these things varietals is not like the others. In short, Syrah and Shiraz refer to the same grape grown in two different regions, while Petite Sirah is a related but different grape.

Petite Sirah (also known as Durif) came about from cross-pollination between Syrah and Peloursin (a French red grape that's now virtually extinct) in the late 1800s by a botanist named Francois Durif. Petite Sirah never really took off in France, where it was first grown, as it isn't well-suited to the growing climate, but it became popular in California (particularly Sonoma, Napa, and Mendocino), where it thrived.

Even more full bodied, tannic, and bold than its parent grape, Syrah, Petite Sirah tends to be a love it or hate it varietal due to its intensity, whereas Syrah's smoother, refined qualities make it more crowd pleasing. Pair either varietal with similarly big, bold dishes like barbecued or braised beef, and find out for yourself which you prefer."

Thanks for that; now, as it happens, I am more than familiar with Syrah/Shiraz, and have read widely on, and attended talks, and tastings of - many, varied, and mostly quite good wines - but, as with much else that has taken root in - or has achieved a certain popularity in - the US - I had never come across Petite Sirah.

In fact, - to my surprise, I had never even heard of it, (and I have read quite a bit about wine) so your post is an interesting read.

Here, in my part of Europe, we rarely come across US wines; there is little market for them in good wine stores, although other ones from the New World (principally Chile, Argentina, South Africa, Australia and NZ do make an appearance).
 
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How many of you out there think of wine as much more than just booze ? How many of you know what the pyloric valve in the body is and what it does ? How many of you know what the significance of "three drinks" is ? Or the numbers .04 to .06 ?

I'm not talking about being a connoisseur who swirls wine around in his/her mouth and spits it out. Yuck ! No, no, no ... I'm talking about ingesting a piece of Mother Earth ... those laborers worked so hard to grow those grapes and stomp on them with their feet, and the way you show your appreciation is to spit it out into a pot ? No !

I'm talking to those of you who pour yourselves a glass, take a sniff of Mother Earth ... deep breath in ... and then proceed to ingest her. Bonus points if you're a night owl, love candles and incense, love movies with emotional content, drink your wine with XCode open, or make music :D
 
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Will have to look into it.

You won't be disappointed, but buy now because prices have almost doubled since release. Although, I don't know if it's worth it at its current price point. Will be phenomenal in 3-5 years though so...decisions. LOL
 
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You won't be disappointed, but buy now because prices have almost doubled since release. Although, I don't know if it's worth it at its current price point. Will be phenomenal in 3-5 years though so...decisions. LOL

What is the "Bordeaux blend" exactly?

If current thinking suggests that it will age beautifully, I'd recommend that you buy a few, - say, a crate, and put them aside, drinking one or two a year, just to see how the ageing process actually works.
 
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What is the "Bordeaux blend" exactly?

If current thinking suggests that it will age beautifully, I'd recommend that you buy a few, - say, a crate, and put them aside, drinking one or two a year, just to see how the ageing process actually works.

This particular blend is mainly cab sauv with petite verdot, merlot, malbec and cab franc from 6 different vineyards.

I had 6 bottles. Now down to 5. My problem is storage. I don't have a true cellar so my 2 wine coolers can only hold about 250 bottles total. Too much good stuff and not enough space.
 

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This particular blend is mainly cab sauv with petite verdot, merlot, malbec and cab franc from 6 different vineyards.

I had 6 bottles. Now down to 5. My problem is storage. I don't have a true cellar so my 2 wine coolers can only hold about 250 bottles total. Too much good stuff and not enough space.

Sounds excellent. Do enjoy.
 
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wife is doing a cider tasting. 6 pack on the right is cider boys apple pineapple cider. Pilsner Urquell is for a friend.

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macrumors Haswell
Jul 29, 2008
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In a coffee shop.
wife is doing a cider tasting. 6 pack on the right is cider boys apple pineapple cider. Pilsner Urquell is for a friend.

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My recommendation would be to start with "the good stuff"; this is because I suspect that both palate, and judgement might be impaired after a few ciders........

In any case, enjoy.
 

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My recommendation would be to start with "the good stuff"; this is because I suspect that both palate, and judgement might be impaired after a few ciders........

In any case, enjoy.


these's are all new to her. will be trial and error over a few days. she wouldn't drink more than 2 at a time.
 

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these's are all new to her. will be trial and error over a few days. she wouldn't drink more than 2 at a time.

Still, - I have made the mistake of "keeping the good wine 'til last" too often; these days, while palates, minds and memories are relatively fresh - especially with something such as cider, - I'd suggest commencing with at least one of the good bottles.

There is little worse than serving a superlative beverage to people too intoxicated to know the difference between nectar and the sort of cheap tipple that is merely an alcohol delivery device.
 

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Still, - I have made the mistake of "keeping the good wine 'til last" too often; these days, while palates, minds and memories are relatively fresh - especially with something such as cider, - I'd suggest commencing with at least one of the good bottles.

There is little worse than serving a superlative beverage to people too intoxicated to know the difference between nectar and the sort of cheap tipple that is merely an alcohol delivery device.

problem is, we don't know which one is the best. these were all picked at random and they are all about the same price point. with that being said, she did drink the cider boys apple/pineapple cider last night and enjoyed it. if you or anyone else is familiar with any of these brands, please feel free to make a suggestion as to what she should try next.
 

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macrumors Haswell
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problem is, we don't know which one is the best. these were all picked at random and they are all about the same price point. with that being said, she did drink the cider boys apple/pineapple cider last night and enjoyed it. if you or anyone else is familiar with any of these brands, please feel free to make a suggestion as to what she should try next.

Well, I'm not from the US, and, therefore, am not at all familiar with what is on sale there, or available, and, while I do drink only the very good stuff, (in beer, wine, - even in cider), I rarely drink cider, and would in no way class myself an expert.

However, with the 'good' stuff, in beer, wine, port, sherry, whisky, cognac, the quality of 'smoothness' is one of those that I seek, - and will judge a product by - and "smoothness" is something that usually tends to be found in the better quality products.
 
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