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With all the rumors, what advantages does iPhone 11 Pro Max have over Galaxy S20?

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Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra will have 108MP main camera and 16GB of RAM, says leak

New Samsung Galaxy S20 leaks reveal powerfully specced phones and advanced camera modes. The top-end Galaxy S20 Ultra looks like a show stealer, debuting with a jaw-dropping 16GB of ...
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Looking at this article is really making me consider switching to Galaxy S20. Prove me wrong, how is the 11 Pro Max better than the S20?
 
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The current crop of Samsung flagships are already spec monsters so I’m not sure how even crazier levels of hardware makes it more attractive. In typical Samsung fashion, they’re throwing bonkers hardware at their upgrades (not a bad thing in it’s own right) but as is often the case, hardware specs are only half the equation. The differentiating factor for many in regards to Samsung devices is often their software. For many, regardless of the phone’s hardware, the software experience is the limiting factor. I personally fall into this camp. I understand that Galaxy S and Note lines have industry leading hardware in many regards but I just don’t like their version of Android so they don’t appeal to me.

My point is, go try one of the current flagships to see if you find One UI (Samsung’s Android skin) appealing. If not, the hardware specs may not matter.
 
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The biggest reason to get the S20, is to move to a 21st century modern OS, and leave the Fisher-Price iOS behind.

Personally I find stock Android way better. A OnePlus or Pixel phone would be my recommendation if leaving the iPhone.

I have the Pixel 4 XL, and don't want any other phone right now. Even a straight up trade for my used 4 XL for a brand new S20, and I'd say no thanks. Samsung can put 32GB RAM in there and best processor, and I'm just not interested in the Galaxy line.
 
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iOS for my use cases is dumb and oppressive which makes it more like a blown up iPod with calling capability. Trying to use it as a computer substitute I run into limitations like limited background multitasking so active SSH session with Termius now dies in the background after about 20 seconds on iOS 13 when it used to be 10 minutes on iOS <=6 and 3 minutes for iOS 7 thru 12 compared to Android that can run indefinitely in the background like a desktop OS. Apple App Store is oppressive since I don't have the freedom of installing apps like emulators, Kodi, torrent clients, etc. that I can on Google Play Store. The apps that I can install lack options such as not having a comparable Relay for Reddit client (Narwhal and Apollo are meh). I could go on and on such as Apple App Store downloading apps in parallel instead of sequentially so I can't try an app while waiting for next one in line to download, slow as molasses Safari scrolling, terrible gestures that falsely triggers when playing games like Sky Force Remake, etc. Best to try and decide for your own use cases.
 
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The biggest thing

IOS

For most that’s always the deciding factor

Oh and no Apple Watch? Sorry but galaxy watches don’t compare

In my life experience Samsung hardware is fantastic and the best there is but software for ME is shocking and why iPhones are better for my needs

A better comparison will be S20 ultra vs iPhone 12...the ultra is a newer phone after all
 
The Game 161 said:
The biggest thing

IOS

For most that’s always the deciding factor

Oh and no Apple Watch? Sorry but galaxy watches don’t compare

In my life experience Samsung hardware is fantastic and the best there is but software for ME is shocking and why iPhones are better for my needs

A better comparison will be S20 ultra vs iPhone 12...the ultra is a newer phone after all
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I don’t find Samsung’s software to be bad, on it‘s own it’s pretty good. It just doesn’t have the same polish and isn’t as fully fleshed out as iOS.
 
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I don’t find Samsung’s software to be bad, on it‘s own it’s pretty good. It just doesn’t have the same polish and isn’t as fully fleshed out as iOS.
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It’s bad for me in the sense I never got notifications on time and you had to delete notifications before new ones came in. The screen should be able to stay off and notifications still come through but that was never the case.

They are obviously great phones but anytime you have to switch a load of stuff off and delete is crazy to me...I also feel apps are worse and don’t look and feel as good as on IOS. If you want the same experience with your Samsung phone and tablet you can forget about it as it just doesn’t look as well together.

Multitasking is where Samsung shines there’s no doubt about that and has picture in picture/spilt screen but apart from that I don’t think there’s much that it does better than the iPhone.

Obviously some of the features on the ultra are great but I will wait to see what it really is as there are different reports. 5x zoom, 120HZ I like that but the next iPhone may have that too so it’s not something that would draw away iPhone users. Camera wise the pro max is already top of the pile which I’m sure will improve with the next iPhone so while 108mp sounds good who knows how it will compare with the next iPhone

Specs wise it’s fully loaded and sounds good and I’m interested to see the reviews and the announcement
 
I don’t think that the iPhone will have things like 5x zoom until 2021, it will just be a better camera and night mode on the ultra wide etc this year.

The only thing I see the iPhone 12 having are 5G and 120hz screen, a slightly better camera, slightly different design and maybe a bigger battery thats it.
 
The biggest advantage is that an iPhone will seamlessly integrate with other Apple devices (Apple Watch, iPad, iPod, iPhone, Mac Notebooks, Mac Desktops, etc.) and services (Continuity, Handoff, iCloud Keychain, etc.). How does one accomplish this same multi-device integration at these same levels with Android OS?
 
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I guess it ultimately depends on what you want out of your phone. The iPhone has access to the iOS App Store, with unique apps such as Apollo, overcast, Fantastical, Bear, Tweetbot and notability.

We know that Apple is increasingly cracking down on apps that abuse your privacy, from allowing you to choose how often you want to share your location services, to letting you see which apps access your Bluetooth capabilities.

Then there is the integration with other Apple services and hardware, from iMessage to airdrop, AirPods, Apple Watch, arcade, card etc.

Conversely, Samsung finds itself increasingly forced to rely on its hardware chops to get around what is practically a non-existent software and services platform.

So it no longer becomes just phone versus phone, but ecosystem vs ecosystem (or the lack thereoff).
 
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The biggest advantage is that an iPhone will seamlessly integrate with other Apple devices (Apple Watch, iPad, iPod, iPhone, Mac Notebooks, Mac Desktops, etc.) and services (Continuity, Handoff, iCloud Keychain, etc.). How does one accomplish this same multi-device integration at these same levels with Android OS?
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I find the integration between my pixel 4 and pixel book go infinitely better than anything apple offers.
Plus now I've figured out the differences in finding the pixel integration into other things much better than iOS.
And this is coming from a 25 year plus apple user.

Android on the pixel is so much better than iOS with its constantly changing ways of doing things. Never mind all the bugs with apple in the last few years, with their constant advice being reset it and try again.

Plus not having to deal with apple's fragile cables is a god send.

My wife is going to ditch her iPhone for a pixel soon too. And I've lost all faith in Apple laptops.

The only reason I stuck with apple so long was familiarity. But the day or so figuring out the new system is totally worth it. I'm sure many iOS users would agree if they tried it.
 
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I find the integration between my pixel 4 and pixel book go infinitely better than anything apple offers.
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That's fine for those devices. What about the other devices I mentioned? How would I achieve that deep level of integration across all of those devices with Android? Do Android tablets with Retina-grade screens exist? (my old eyes) What about Continuity/Handoff? iCloud Keychain? iCloud Tabs?
 
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That's fine for those devices. What about the other devices I mentioned? How would I achieve that deep level of integration across all of those devices with Android? Do Android tablets with Retina-grade screens exist? (my old eyes) What about Continuity/Handoff? iCloud Keychain? iCloud Tabs?
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no idea about tablets sorry, but if you put chrome on an iPad it would work just fine.

as for handoff, keychain etc, yep my pixel does all that and more.
it does the same for photos too, and can auto sort them into friends and family and display them on the google nest hub. which my family loves as pictures appear the same day...

basically anything ive done in 25 years of using apple my google stuff now does better.
 
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The Note 10+ was arguably my favorite Android phone ever, and I still only kept it for a month and switched back to iPhone.
 
revmacian said:
The biggest advantage is that an iPhone will seamlessly integrate with other Apple devices (Apple Watch, iPad, iPod, iPhone, Mac Notebooks, Mac Desktops, etc.) and services (Continuity, Handoff, iCloud Keychain, etc.). How does one accomplish this same multi-device integration at these same levels with Android OS?
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Whilst this all sound jolly nice hockey sticks and all the reality is for most is they remain relatively inconsequential, unused, limited and country, device and service restricted

The fact you have to buy several devices ranging for $500 to over $3000 to accomplish so little extra trivia to a limited number of options

Sure it can be fun sharing your grandsons photo with the book club once a month, or a pdf of this months phone bill or to do list with the Mrs etc, the bottom line most professional are not

The problem is because these little feature are mainly used for little things IPhone users are rarely challenged with anything outside 1 photo or video or pdf file let alone cross platform and international demands.

To justify spending or recommending spending $1000's on such low level minor conveniences escapes me

Once you stop thinking Apple way you would be surprised at the various options on completing tasks across multiple devices tailored to your specific needs, instead of entrapment because of minor

Apple love those who can't think for themselves and let the tail wag the dog from a watch upwards.

It's not about buying in to a premium ECO it's about simplicity of a nanny environment that makes you more lazy than efficient and encourages spending under the disguise of service and technology
 
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Whilst this all sound jolly nice hockey sticks and all the reality is for most is they remain relatively inconsequential, unused, limited and country, device and service restricted

The fact you have to buy several devices ranging for $500 to over $3000 to accomplish so little extra trivia to a limited number of options

Sure it can be fun sharing your grandsons photo with the book club once a month, or a pdf of this months phone bill or to do list with the Mrs etc, the bottom line most professional are not

The problem is because these little feature are mainly used for little things IPhone users are rarely challenged with anything outside 1 photo or video or pdf file let alone cross platform and international demands.

To justify spending or recommending spending $1000's on such low level minor conveniences escapes me

Once you stop thinking Apple way you would be surprised at the various options on completing tasks across multiple devices tailored to your specific needs, instead of entrapment because of minor

Apple love those who can't think for themselves and let the tail wag the dog from a watch upwards.

It's not about buying in to a premium ECO it's about simplicity of a nanny environment that makes you more lazy than efficient and encourages spending under the disguise of service and technology
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Furthermore once you know how to get things done the Android way and try to use iOS you really see just how dumbed down the OS really is just so you can have a few unique features. Also just like longtime iOS users find it impossible to move to and understand Android, long time Android users find it equally as hard to move to iOS.
 
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Whilst this all sound jolly nice hockey sticks and all the reality is for most is they remain relatively inconsequential, unused, limited and country, device and service restricted

The fact you have to buy several devices ranging for $500 to over $3000 to accomplish so little extra trivia to a limited number of options

Sure it can be fun sharing your grandsons photo with the book club once a month, or a pdf of this months phone bill or to do list with the Mrs etc, the bottom line most professional are not

The problem is because these little feature are mainly used for little things IPhone users are rarely challenged with anything outside 1 photo or video or pdf file let alone cross platform and international demands.

To justify spending or recommending spending $1000's on such low level minor conveniences escapes me

Once you stop thinking Apple way you would be surprised at the various options on completing tasks across multiple devices tailored to your specific needs, instead of entrapment because of minor

Apple love those who can't think for themselves and let the tail wag the dog from a watch upwards.

It's not about buying in to a premium ECO it's about simplicity of a nanny environment that makes you more lazy than efficient and encourages spending under the disguise of service and technology
Click to expand...
When you lose all of your hearing feel free to come back and tell me how you get along perfectly with just one device. Just one example; is Android fully compatible with a complete bilateral cochlear Nucleus implant system (MFT)? How about devices for other needs for the deaf community?
 
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