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torana355

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This thread has just degraded in to the same old Android vs iOS subjective argument. Almost everything is subjective, If one was clearly better then the other everyone would use the exact same phone. Both have their Pros and Cons. iOS generally has more polished apps, But that isn't not always the case. Android is more flexible and less restrictive allowing for higher productivity, but again this is just a general rule.

The software experience is so close between the 2 these days that the hardware specs are more important than ever so the S20 Ultra is certainly looking promising. Though at the end of the day any flagship from Android or Apple is going to serve you well in 2020.
 

jamezr

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Texting alone is an awful experience on android if you want to interact with on several devices you are stuck to just your phone. For me that is far too restrictive. Phone, iPad, MacBook I can do all that on any...depending on needing my phone to do that or ring isn’t ideal at all so when people say there’s an ecosystem in android there really isn’t
Funny how different people have different experience and preferences. I don't find texting on my 11 Pro Max and better than on my Note 10+ or Pixel 4 XL.

There is an ecosystem on Android......you can opt in for an all Google experience if you chose too. From security camera to video cameras to browser to phones and tablets and laptops all integrated with the best Al and digital assistant on the market.
Here is a few of Google's connected products
Google Home Max
Google Nest thermostats
Google Chromecast
Nest Wifi
Nest video doorbell
Nest Alarm system
Nest Cam indoor and outdoor video cameras


Then to be honest the mobile operating systems are edging closer and closer to each other.
there isn't much left to differentiate except the hardware. The Android space has outpaced Apple for quite a while now on hardware. Not to say Apple doesn't have great hardware...they do!
But Android phone makers tend to offer better hardware features.

Then all this comes down to personal preferences. You really can't go wrong with either platform.
It is very childish to put someone down because they prefer one over the other.
 

The Game 161

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Funny how different people have different experience and preferences. I don't find texting on my 11 Pro Max and better than on my Note 10+ or Pixel 4 XL.

There is an ecosystem on Android......you can opt in for an all Google experience if you chose too. From security camera to video cameras to browser to phones and tablets and laptops all integrated with the best Al and digital assistant on the market.
Here is a few of Google's connected products
Google Home Max
Google Nest thermostats
Google Chromecast
Nest Wifi
Nest video doorbell
Nest Alarm system
Nest Cam indoor and outdoor video cameras


Then to be honest the mobile operating systems are edging closer and closer to each other.
there isn't much left to differentiate except the hardware. The Android space has outpaced Apple for quite a while now on hardware. Not to say Apple doesn't have great hardware...they do!
But Android phone makers tend to offer better hardware features.

Then all this comes down to personal preferences. You really can't go wrong with either platform.
It is very childish to put someone down because they prefer one over the other.


I would say that the home kit google is better due to being able to give more options. Hell I have two google home hubs which are far better than the homepod I have.

Google services well work for android users but I wouldn’t class it as an ecosystem. Ecosystem as most would class is multiple devices that sync and go with each other. Well I do agree android phone/tablet/pixelbook or chromebook can work it certainly won’t work like IOS so you can only compare it to each other. I know from my experience anything that’s being done on my iphone will not sync with my galaxy tablet like messages/photos/phone calls/facetime and even something as simple as airdrop which is a godsend at times for my usage.

When it comes to hardware android has always been ahead of the game for years due to putting things out there and seeing what works while apple decide to wait till they see fit and if they think it’s ready or not. Which can be frustrating but I can understand why they do this at the same time.

However hardware wise apple have really improved in recent years and I would say the gap in terms of hardware between android and apple is very small where to me apple still have a big advantage in software. Software I would say is the deal breaker for most IOS users and why they won’t go to android. If this was based on hardware alone then most would have android phones but hardware and software go hand in hand and both must be at the level for the user.

I don’t think anybody here is putting people down for being childish due to what device they have in this thread it is just giving people’s views on what they prefer….My android experience with the S10 plus was generally very good but the key areas is what let it down and why I moved back.

I think what devices like Samsung bring out and oneplus are fantastic in terms of the hardware. Pixel software wise is obviously there main selling point but hardware wise don’t compare to the comp for me.

People like myself can enjoy seeing what Samsung produce and not buy them….as after all you can enjoy their products and not need to get them. I have seen quite a few users on here buy the latest Samsung due to the great spec sheet only to go back to the iphone within a month. I’m one of those people and still people get tempted the year after even after returning the previous version…on one side that’s good as companies like Samsung are tempting people with high power specs even when those people know they shouldn’t buy them. It’s companies like Samsung is what is keeping comp remain at a high level so people choosing android and IOS is a good thing for the tech world.
 

Zwhaler

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It runs iOS

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As an Android user for many years, this. I still choose Android for now but it's pretty obvious that iOS is the reason! Especially once you get tied up into all the "ecosystem" tidbits, it's the obvious choice for many people. Less tracking on iOS too.
 

jamezr

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As an Android user for many years, this. I still choose Android for now but it's pretty obvious that iOS is the reason! Especially once you get tied up into all the "ecosystem" tidbits, it's the obvious choice for many people. Less tracking on iOS too.

Less tracking? Do you use any Google services?
 

drinkingtea

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Actually it's centered now...so it's symmetrical
That’s not what I meant. The padding in the status bar is uneven because of the punch hole. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about at 5:57:


That would drive my OCD absolutely crazy.
 

michael9891

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Lmao. I’m clearly not the only one who is bothered by this. It looks ugly and cheap. At least with the notch on iOS, the padding is even. ?‍♀️
You're entitled to your opinion, ugly and cheap is a bit over the top though. It's much more a case of personal preference than OCD. Unless you have actual OCD that cripples your day to day life.
 

jamezr

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Because it's 2mm lower than you'd like? lol

But the huge notch on the iPhones doesn’t bother Apple fans at all /s

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yui4

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Lmao. I’m clearly not the only one who is bothered by this. It looks ugly and cheap. At least with the notch on iOS, the padding is even. ?‍♀️
The good thing about android is the flexibility so if I'm not mistaken, the samsung good lock app allows the staus bar icons to be moved or hidden to suit different tastes and opinions
 
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jamezr

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Lmao. I’m clearly not the only one who is bothered by this. It looks ugly and cheap. At least with the notch on iOS, the padding is even. ?‍♀️
yep...top and bottom are even. It is called OCD but only for certain brands lol /s

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mikehalloran

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I use the Google ecosystem at work. My Apple & iOS devices have no problems with it.

I had to use an Android phone for many years and finally jumped ship.

Even if I wasn't handicapped, I'd prefer the iPhone but I am. To say that iOS has improved my quality of life is an understatement I became handicapped before that was a thing so I know the difference. My 11 Pro does everything I need and it can be used one-handed (unlike the XR and all single-lens phones with pinch-zoom) — best phone I've ever owned and miles above my Xs and that was an excellent phone but...

I've looked at the Samsung and there's nothing that interests me.

The degree of interaction among my Apple and iOS devices is why I will never ride the Android clown car again. Never ever ever ever ever ever…
 

pawxpaw

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I use the Google ecosystem at work. My Apple & iOS devices have no problems with it.

I had to use an Android phone for many years and finally jumped ship.

Even if I wasn't handicapped, I'd prefer the iPhone but I am. To say that iOS has improved my quality of life is an understatement I became handicapped before that was a thing so I know the difference. My 11 Pro does everything I need and it can be used one-handed (unlike the XR and all single-lens phones with pinch-zoom) — best phone I've ever owned and miles above my Xs and that was an excellent phone but...

I've looked at the Samsung and there's nothing that interests me.

The degree of interaction among my Apple and iOS devices is why I will never ride the Android clown car again. Never ever ever ever ever ever…
Get a pixel phone and get all that and more. Plus an extremely good assistant that would be wonderful if one has physical challenges.

I thought apple integration was good until I tried pixel and I'll be very unlikely to go back to apple.
 

yui4

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I sometimes wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Some people have this thing, it's almost emotional, that they detest android or ios. I've never been passionate to the point where I will only stick to 1 operating system until I die type approach.

I see something I like and want to use and just buy and enjoy it

Android had for several years now shed the lag that plagued it a long time ago.

Tech is at the point nowadays where, besides a different approach to getting things done, mostly everything is smooth and lag free regardless of which flagship phone you're using
 

mikehalloran

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Get a pixel phone and get all that and more. Plus an extremely good assistant that would be wonderful if one has physical challenges.

I thought apple integration was good until I tried pixel and I'll be very unlikely to go back to apple.
You aren't me. I checked out the Google Pixel and it offers me nothing. Again, my chief criteria is its integration with my Mac, not with Google where both the iPhone and iMac are really good—very important when I spend 8–11 hours a day interacting with Google and its apps.

This article doesn't mention anything about the integration of iOS with the MacOS. Since the Pixel 4 doesn't have that, it's not really an issue for the article, I suppose. Again, it's my number one consideration. I have an 11 Pro with a better camera than the 11 and an OLED display so some of these comparisons don't apply.

Pixel 4 vs iPhone 11

Of course the P4 can talk to a Mac — that's not good enough for me. How they communicate is very important and if you're using a Pixel, you won't understand. It may very well be good enough for you which is fine with me.

I am not you. Please don't presume to know my needs.
 

michael9891

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That’s not what I was talking about. If you reread my posts, I’m clearly talking about what the punch hole does to the software.
To be fair, you talked about how the hole punch wasn't perfectly aligned in the status bar, which would drive your OCD crazy. It doesn't affect the software or functionality of the phone.
 
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jamezr

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That’s not what I was talking about. If you reread my posts, I’m clearly talking about what the punch hole does to the software.

Somehow the tiny little punch out hole on the S20 bothers your OCD. But the huge notch on iphones doesn't.
I guess it is called brand specific OCD then lol :)
Somehow the tiny little punch hole skewers the software and triggers your OCD! But amazingly the huge notch on iphones does not go figure :rolleyes:
 
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drinkingtea

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Somehow the tiny little punch out hole on the S20 bothers your OCD. But the huge notch on iphones doesn't.
I guess it is called brand specific OCD then lol :)
Somehow the tiny little punch hole skewers the software and triggers your OCD! But amazingly the huge notch on iphones does not go figure :rolleyes:
Once again, you’re missing my point. I never said the notch didn’t bother me—I just said it doesn’t skew the status bar the way the punch hole does. Of course the punch hole is more aesthetically pleasing. I’m not denying that. I’m just saying that I don’t like how it makes the status bar asymmetrical.
 
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