iPad Pro With my M4 IPad I’m going to

[MrMacintoshIII]

My 13” iPad m4 1tb (with cellular!) will be used to mirror my 14” M3 mbp screen for best of both worlds touch control on macOS when needed for my music production.

Otherwise, I’m hoping to tinker a lot and build ideas with Logic Pro 2 for iPad. There’s nothing else quite like it.

Aside from that I’ll also be using it to practice freestyling and writing rhymes. And journaling with the sweet new pencil pro.

Oh, also to edit album art.

And to edit music videos.

And also, will use it to edit my streaming endeavors, and in general, it will become my main device, and even if I ever wanted to use my mbp… I’ll probably only do so in mirror mode, connected with a cable, using Apple Pencil and touch to navigate macOS in bed.

I will also use it as a whiteboard in Freeform.

I was a longtime holdout on iPads and also hadn’t discovered my calling yet, so getting it for productivity was fruitless before.

Gave away my first and favorite 13” iPad Pro, the last one they released before M1 became a thing. Gave away my favorite iPad mini 6.

Finally getting the iPad of my dreams (no nano glass though, I prefer glossy for the darkest possible blacks and crispest text on oled) and I can’t wait.

13” is a bit big for the way I want to use it, but 11” is also too big for my most preferred use cases (holding it above my face while lying down facing the ceiling) so might as well get the biggest.

Also, multitasking is kind of silly on the 11”. The 2” diagonal is an insane amount of added real estate, so for people who truly want to use their iPad Pro for productivity, I can’t in good conscience argue for the 11”.

Yes it’s amazing that it would perform just as well as the 13”, but as an especially finicky person, I’ve learned that my least favorite part of touchscreen interfaces is moving around the screen with scrolls and zooming with pinching and reverse-pinching and such. Can’t stand it in fact. The 11” inherently has a lot more of this. Especially when it’s in multitasking mode…

Oh and only the 13” is apple’s thinnest device ever. 11” doesn’t qualify. I’m looking forward to experiencing that!

I’ll also be able to connect it to my studio display, and to my mbp as an additional screen with Touch Bar if needed.

So cool!

 

[TracerAnalog]

I’m going to obsessively watch the new iPad Pro reviews on YouTube so I can be happy with my new very expensive iPad Pro. Oh and sit in the sun whilst watching so I can brag to my wife about the nano textured screen that I chose in order not to have to apply an expensive $20 mat screen protector.

😅

 

[Boing123]

Spec bump as always, loaded with a gimped OS that is iPadOS. I like this consistency. Let’s see what M5 would bring when it comes.

Exactly how is it ‘gimped’? Exactly what can’t you do?

 

[Boing123]

I can see Apple making a compatibility layer to allow MacOS apps on the iPad. Much like you can use iPad apps on MacOS, just in reverse.

What a future that will be… using user interfaces not intended to be used on a touch interface.

Remember the fiasco that was Win8 on the early Surface devices.

Hook up a current iPad to an external monitor and you can do anything you want.

 

[Boing123]

My 13” iPad m4 1tb will be used to mirror my 14” M3 mbp screen for best of both worlds touch control on macOS when needed for my music production.

Otherwise, I’m hoping to tinker a lot and build ideas with Logic Pro 2 for iPad. There’s nothing else quite like it.

Aside from that I’ll also be using it to practice free styling and writing rhymes.

And to edit music videos.

Indeed… with continuity I found the iPad to be an extremely capable dual mon setup when on the move.

Regular office work (Word processing, Email,…) can easily be done on the iPad as well.

Then, if I need to do something more elaborate like coding, I use it as a thin client to a cloud VM with a nice toolchain all set up. Not running those loads locally allows me to maximally use the battery life. It’s wonderful.

 

[leifp]

Although I’m unlikely to purchase one (I eternally reserve the right to be flighty with my disposable income), Apple has addressed a load of my pain points with the M4 iPad Pros. Mainly: thinner, lighter, vastly improved screen. Although less important on an iPad than on my other computers, the addition of mesh shading and ray tracing (once taken advantage of by app developers) are a big deal to me.

The iPad is my most used device and I find that the 10.5” iPad Pro was the last device that was enjoyable to hold (I’m sure the mini is fine but the squared off shape that’s more functional for add ons makes it less fun without them). Thus “thinner and lighter”, despite MKBHD’s claim that nobody asked for it, is very much a big deal to me.

Everyone has their own take on this, naturally, however my desire wrt macOS is the functionality. I definitely do not want macOS on the iPad somehow replacing iPadOS. I do want the core functionality, e.g. deep hooks and control of behaviours possible on macOS but impossible on iPadOS (for now) such as those required for VPNs to really do their jobs. If they manage to show an iPadOS substantially more capable in this regard my resistance to replacing my M2 iPP may wear… but probably not. These are necessary but insufficient upgrades for me to shell out so much money particularly since I’m waiting to pounce whenever Apple release a Mac Studio offering Thunderbolt 5…

 

[MrMacintoshIII]

Im with you on the thinner and lighter being a huge win. Thinner and lighter is always better. Why do people enjoy holding heavy things? My ideal iPad Pro will be paper-thin and just as light, and I’ll just roll it up into my pocket.

 

[leifp]

13” is a bit big for the way I want to use it, but 11” is also too big for my most preferred use cases (holding it above my face while lying down facing the ceiling) so might as well get the biggest.

Precisely my rationale...

 

[Mdx4ever]

Currently rocking iPad Pro 3rd gen with 13”
it still does everything I want but becomes more sluggish with every new ipad os update…
I’m music producer so latency and responsiveness is of my primary top list
looks like new iPad Pro will fit the bill just nicely
ordered pro 4 😀

 

[Wizec]

Watch cartoons with dark scenes in the dark. 🤭

And lots of other things of course, but I am really excited for OLED finally!

 

[Sheepish-Lord]

I’m going to, once again, try to see how much I can use it as a MB replacement. I’m going to use Safari desktop website only mode and try to see if I can refrain from downloading apps.

I’m a very basic user and a display nerd so the 13” OLED sold me. I despise iPadOS so I’m sure I’ll be let down as always. I just wish we had a Samsung Dex like experience at least.

 

[ric22]

With my M4 iPad Pro and 16GB of RAM I am going to.

#1. Game a lot more and use Emulators (video below)
#2. Watch movies in bed.
#3. Finally eliminate that text smear scrolling even new IPS iPad Pros are cursed with.
#4” Flex on anyone with less than an M4 chip.

What's the deal with the weird grid appearing over every character in that video?

 

[Saturn007]

“With my M4 IPad I’m going to​

Load safari tabs slightly faster than my m1 iPad​

​

Switch apps slightly faster than my m1 ipad​

​

Scroll my photos slightly faster than my m1 iPad…”​

Truly expected this to end with a

/s

😁

The power of human rationalization never ceases to amaze! Jobs's RDF is alive and well! ✅

Our iPad Air 2's are still running wonderfully well — fast, responsive, great for browsing, shopping, reading the news, taking photos, emailing, playing word, puzzle, and number games, ebook reading, etc.

Can't even imagine what an M-series iPad would gain us…

But people's needs and workflows differ, so whatever device makes each of us happy is alright!

 

[okkibs]

What might have flown under the radar is the battery improvements when looking at the fine print in the tech specs: Battery life is measured at half the max brightness of SDR mode which is 500 nits. At a first glance it looks like battery life has remained identical but in fact the older model at 50% does 350 nits so this is a substantial improvement as the display is the single most power hungry component in day-to-day use.

If only Apple had kept the previous thickness for the 11“ model to further increase battery life… the 12“ was heavy and reducing thickness was probably the right call but the smaller model already had a tiny battery to begin with and now there is even less of it.

Add to that that it‘s basically impossible to ever get a battery replacement since Apple does not replace batteries in stores and instead gives you a refurbished replacement iPad. They refuse to hand out that replacement unless the battery is below their arbitrary 80% mark which usually just won‘t happen until the device has been obsoleted and Apple might not even do these swaps anymore.

The now even smaller battery does nothing to resolve that problem. My M1 iPad is now down to 3-3.5 hours at a high brightness whereas before I got 5-6 hours. 6 hours is perfectly reasonable, 3 hours is nearly useless on the go unless I bring a power bank which negates the portability I buy iPads for in the first place. Maybe by 2027 I can get the replacement but what good is that when I am already considering buying a new one in 2024?

No mention about better repairability either at the keynote so I bet Apple still designs these new iPads in a way where replacing the battery means destructively opening the device. There is a reason you won‘t find a single screw on an iPad.

Now I am wondering if I should really switch to the latest model. I do want it and I would benefit from the better display and battery life but just a few years down the line I‘ll be stuck with terrible battery life once more… and for the price tag I think I should be allowed at least one battery replacement after the first 2-3 years. It‘s not like I wouldn‘t want to pay for the new battery…

 

[Booji]

Im with you on the thinner and lighter being a huge win. Thinner and lighter is always better. Why do people enjoy holding heavy things? My ideal iPad Pro will be paper-thin and just as light, and I’ll just roll it up into my pocket.

10% lighter

 

[Booji]

“With my M4 IPad I’m going to​

Load safari tabs slightly faster than my m1 iPad​

​

Switch apps slightly faster than my m1 ipad​

​

Scroll my photos slightly faster than my m1 iPad…”​

Truly expected this to end with a

/s

😁

The power of human rationalization never ceases to amaze! Jobs's RDF is alive and well! ✅

Our iPad Air 2's are still running wonderfully well — fast, responsive, great for browsing, shopping, reading the news, taking photos, emailing, playing word, puzzle, and number games, ebook reading, etc.

Can't even imagine what an M-series iPad would gain us…

But people's needs and workflows differ, so whatever device makes each of us happy is alright!

there is something attractive about owning the most powerful and amazing tech on the market even if you don’t need it. After all, most people buy a Lamborghini because they need to go 200 mph on the way to work.

 

[alecgold]

What might have flown under the radar is the battery improvements when looking at the fine print in the tech specs: Battery life is measured at half the max brightness of SDR mode which is 500 nits. At a first glance it looks like battery life has remained identical but in fact the older model at 50% does 350 nits so this is a substantial improvement as the display is the single most power hungry component in day-to-day use.

If only Apple had kept the previous thickness for the 11“ model to further increase battery life… the 12“ was heavy and reducing thickness was probably the right call but the smaller model already had a tiny battery to begin with and now there is even less of it.

Add to that that it‘s basically impossible to ever get a battery replacement since Apple does not replace batteries in stores and instead gives you a refurbished replacement iPad. They refuse to hand out that replacement unless the battery is below their arbitrary 80% mark which usually just won‘t happen until the device has been obsoleted and Apple might not even do these swaps anymore.

The now even smaller battery does nothing to resolve that problem. My M1 iPad is now down to 3-3.5 hours at a high brightness whereas before I got 5-6 hours. 6 hours is perfectly reasonable, 3 hours is nearly useless on the go unless I bring a power bank which negates the portability I buy iPads for in the first place. Maybe by 2027 I can get the replacement but what good is that when I am already considering buying a new one in 2024?

No mention about better repairability either at the keynote so I bet Apple still designs these new iPads in a way where replacing the battery means destructively opening the device. There is a reason you won‘t find a single screw on an iPad.

Now I am wondering if I should really switch to the latest model. I do want it and I would benefit from the better display and battery life but just a few years down the line I‘ll be stuck with terrible battery life once more… and for the price tag I think I should be allowed at least one battery replacement after the first 2-3 years. It‘s not like I wouldn‘t want to pay for the new battery…

Your point about better battery life at same brightness is a good valid point!

but the battery replacement never is an issue. My almost 1 year old iPad Pro 13” M2 is down to 83%. So I expect it to report well below 80% somewhere in the next few months. Well within AC+ timeframe.

 

[okkibs]

but the battery replacement never is an issue. My almost 1 year old iPad Pro 13” M2 is down to 83%. So I expect it to report well below 80% somewhere in the next few months. Well within AC+ timeframe.

Mine fell to about 90% within a year and now it‘s at 84% but it‘s been stuck there for a full year now. In truth a battery at 84% is already used up and the battery life is horrible but I have had it since release and Apple themselves say that batteries are consumables and should be replaced eventually. It‘s been 3 years yet Apple won‘t service the iPad. My experience is nothing out of the ordinary.

You might find your iPad remaining at 83% until after AC+ expires. You can extend the coverage of course but then you are just giving Apple more money without any guarantee they‘ll replace the battery with AC+. I don‘t ever buy AC+ for the iPads either as the AC+ price is above 10% of the device cost which makes it a very costly insurance.

 

[MrMacintoshIII]

10% lighter

The 13” is actually about 15% lighter

 

[thefourthpope]

I've never had a web compatibility problem with mine, but what you're describing sounds like a need for improvements to Safari, not a complete transplant of the OS. Changing the OS doesn't make a difference in this case at all.

I don’t have any rendering issues. More that I frequently get locked into the mobile version of the site. If iPadOS Safari was better at forcing desktop versions of pages, it would go a long way towards improving that experience.

That’s the sort of thing I have in mind when I imagine a shift in the OS with an external keyboard attached. The keyboard means I’m using this in a more laptop way, so I’d like some of those more laptop elements.

 

[leifp]

10% lighter

582g vs 685g is 103g lighter and in an absolute sense a 100g weight loss ought to be very noticeable indeed.

 

[rui no onna]

I don’t have any rendering issues. More that I frequently get locked into the mobile version of the site. If iPadOS Safari was better at forcing desktop versions of pages, it would go a long way towards improving that experience.

Nowadays, a lot of websites use responsive design. I've often found that I'm being forced on the "mobile" version not because it detects Mobile Safari but because of the smaller window/viewport size.

I can't remember the last time I got mobile layout on Safari with the 13" iPad Pro and 11" iPad Pro/Air with Display Zoom set to More Space.

I do encounter more layout issues on 11" and smaller iPads with normal zoom.

 

[MrMacintoshIII]

I do encounter more layout issues on 11" and smaller iPads with normal zoom.

Interesting. Another pro for the 13” I guess.

 

[btrach144]

so you have just bought a bigger 15 pro max ok

Technically it’s closer to a 16 pro max

 

[iosuser]

...re-watch the many movies I've already watched on a "proper" screen that can properly display HDR. Although I already have a 77" OLED, seeing it up close on a tablet with headphones is another experience. I've been waiting for an OLED iPad since forever, and kept an older Samsung S6 tablet just because it has an OLED screen.