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Or change its meaning completely.

When some black teenagers say whack🙃, I am not don't give it a second thought.😊 But when some old Italian guys says whack😳, I getting as far away from them as possible.😓
And "whack" has a different meaning again Across the Pond.

In fact, it took me quite some considerable time before I came to comprehend what this term is understood to mean when used by an old guy of Italian extraction in parts of the US.
 

KaiFiMacFan

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In print/online media headlines: "Here's why."

I don't know why it bothers me. It strikes me as lazy and click-baitey, but it's really no big deal. That said, I cringe every time I see it.

I don't like it either! It bugs me because of the clickbait factor and how overused it is. I'm also not a fan of "here's what you need to know". Don't tell me what I need 😅
 

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But then if "old white guys" are trying to use it, are they not appropriating a word that, in some sense, doesn't "belong" to them. In other words, take the power away from the culture that uses it, hence diluting it's meaning and effectiveness.
That's probably true for newer, trendy words or phrases. But this use of "woke" has been around for a long time. Language evolves and matures. At some point the adoption by "others" of a term that originated in a specific culture is indicative of acceptance and understanding of the depth of meaning intended. Thus it becomes a tribute rather than an appropriation.
 
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usagora

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When people jump into a conversation like Superman by prefacing their comment with "[insert profession/etc.] here."

For example, when discussing software, someone will jump in proudly with "Software engineering major here," like, "Watch out, folks, a real expert has arrived to set you all straight" 🤣 I don't know, it's just something about that terse phrasing that comes off as high and mighty to me.
 

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When people jump into a conversation like Superman by prefacing their comment with "[insert profession/etc.] here."

For example, when discussing software, someone will jump in proudly with "Software engineering major here," like, "Watch out, folks, a real expert has arrived to set you all straight" 🤣 I don't know, it's just something about that terse phrasing that comes off as high and mighty to me.
Self-love should always come first? Put an oxygen mask first before helping others?
 

usagora

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Self-love should always come first? Put an oxygen mask first before helping others?

I'm not sure what that has to do with my post. But to go off-topic, the reason why you put your mask on first is so that you can help others effectively without losing consciousness. So, it's not "self-love" at all.
 

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I'm not sure what that has to do with my post. But to go off-topic, the reason why you put your mask on first is so that you can help others effectively without losing consciousness. So, it's not "self-love" at all.
Or the concept of "self-love" just goes a bit deeper than what it is usually seen as.
 

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When Manchester (the town) is pronounced with the stress on -chester instead of the stress on -man. If you know IPA it would look like this [mæn'tʃɪstə(r)] (which is the way I can't stand) instead of [ˈmæntʃɪstə(r)] (which is the way I like).

Also, I can't stand when football play-by-play commentators try, usually with poor results, to imitate the native accent to pronounce the name of a player.
 

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Also, I can't stand when football play-by-play commentators try, usually with poor results, to imitate the native accent to pronounce the name of a player.
Ooooof, sometimes it's just really bad! I don't really watch sports, but I TOTALLY get what you're saying!
 
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Scepticalscribe

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When Manchester (the town) is pronounced with the stress on -chester instead of the stress on -man. If you know IPA it would look like this [mæn'tʃɪstə(r)] (which is the way I can't stand) instead of [ˈmæntʃɪstə(r)] (which is the way I like).
Ouch.
Also, I can't stand when football play-by-play commentators try, usually with poor results, to imitate the native accent to pronounce the name of a player.
It should be perfectly possible for a commentator to correctly pronounce the name of a foreign player without attempting to imitate the native accent of that player.

Write it out phonetically if nothing else works and then, proceed to commit it to memory.
 
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usagora

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Or the concept of "self-love" just goes a bit deeper than what it is usually seen as.

I honestly have no idea what you're on about regarding my post you originally replied to. Sorry.
 

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A few years ago I kept coming across articles that started with things like "Wot is up this week" or "Wots the news" and I'm asking what does "wot" mean? Web of trust? Where's our trousers? Washington or Transylvania?

The articles I'm referring to weren't British or World of Tanks so there was no logical reason for them to use wot aside from pretending to say "what" and saving a single character from the headline.
 
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A few years ago I kept coming across articles that started with things like "Wot is up this week" or "Wots the news" and I'm asking what does "wot" mean? Web of trust? Where's our trousers? Washington or Transylvania?

The articles I'm referring to weren't British or World of Tanks so there was no logical reason for them to use wot aside from pretending to say "what" and saving a single character from the headline.

A profound and heartfelt amen to this.

Coulnd't agree more.

What a horrible expression, both brutally truncated and downright ugly on the eye and on the ear.
 

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A few years ago I kept coming across articles that started with things like "Wot is up this week" or "Wots the news" and I'm asking what does "wot" mean? Web of trust? Where's our trousers? Washington or Transylvania?
ARTICLES?!?! Are you serious? That might be one of the worst I've ever come across in this thread!
 

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"Pupper," "Doggo," whatever.....It's silly, it's definitely infantilizing when there really is nothing wrong with simply talking about "our puppy" (when it actually IS a puppy, a very young dog), or our "dog" -- both of which are much more acceptable terms (as far as I am concerned).

I also hate to see pets dressed up in silly costumes, too, but that's another issue.....
 
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KaiFiMacFan

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My sister created an Instagram account for her dog, and it has the word "pupper" in the user name :oops:

I don't really mind it, though. It's just a silly way people express affection for their pets. I think most of us speak differently to our pets, such as using a higher-pitched voice and different vocabulary.

Though I guess there's probably not much love here for kittehs, birbs, and sneks either. 😅
 
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