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halledise

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one of my current favourite words is defenestration, especially when speaking with green type people as they think it has something to do with cutting down old growth forests, which is a bone of contention hereabouts on the north coast of NSW (Australia) where i’m residing for Xmas.
it actually means to throw someone out of a window 🤓
 

decafjava

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Actually, I find it a most useful marker both when delivering lectures (or briefings), and, sometimes, with the written word, when writing.

In practice, I have found that it is pretty useful - as a rhetorical device - when a lot of material (information) has been imparted, - for the audience (or readers) may be too busy digesting, or attempting to digest, what you said (wrote) to be able to draw conclusions from it - for that expression then serves to draw attention (almost like a physical pause for breath, a reminder to pay heed) - as a stress - to what you say next, especially if you are threading strands of material and information together to draw conclusions.
Thank you, that makes sense actually.
 
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decafjava

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one of my current favourite words is defenestration, especially when speaking with green type people as they think it has something to do with cutting down old growth forests, which is a bone of contention hereabouts on the north coast of NSW (Australia) where i’m residing for Xmas.
it actually means to throw someone out of a window 🤓
Yes I recall reading about the "defenestration of Prague" there were three (!) of which the last led to the Thirty Year's War.

Defenestrations of Prague
 

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Yes I recall reading about the "defenestration of Prague" there were three (!) of which the last led to the Thirty Year's War.

Defenestrations of Prague
Actually, there was a fourth ("defenestration of Prague"), which occurred much more recently, in March 1948, when the then Foreign Minister of what was then Czechoslovakia, Jan Masaryk, (apparently) fell to his death from a window shortly before the communists copperfastened their control of the country.
 
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Actually, there was a fourth ("defenestration of Prague"), which occurred much more recently, in March 1948, when the then Foreign Minister of what was then Czechoslovakia, Jan Masaryk, (apparently) fell to his death from a window shortly before the communists copperfastened their control of the country.
Wha? FOUR defenestrations! So, you're saying Prague aint got no mo trees?

FWIW, The term "Fenestration" found it's way into English architectural terminology via the French stylists in vogue when Washington DC was being envisioned. The French word for Windows is fenêtre, from the Latin fenestra. Similar to German Fenster, though German is not a romance language, but rather in the same root family as English.
 

halledise

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‘fully' which is almost as bad as ‘totally'.

though our son did just came up with his first dad joke the other day.
[*warning* not racist and i have approval from the local community at woolgoolga]
what do you call a car containing 5 guys in turbans?
fully sikh 😇.
the community leader has the personalised car numberplate ‘SIKH-1'
 

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Shouldn't the car be the drivee?
Actually, I find the expression, not matter how used, exceptionally annoying.

However, when used in the context of technology (as found on these threads), it is extremely trying, as it seeks to convey the excitement and urgency of a sense of movement, or motion, to the act of writing while using - or somehow working with - a computer, or similar device.
 

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macrumors Haswell
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Is irregardless a real word?

An interesting article on how a word may or may not make it into the dictionary.
Thank you for that, it is interesting.

Also interesting is how words - words which had developed to describe something specific in the society that hadn't been expressed until then - fall out of favour and fashion, and are no longer used.

A relatively recent example that comes to mind is the word "yuppie" which was an acronym, (young upwardly mobile), coined to describe the ambitious, bright, thrusting young men (mostly), without a traditional background in finance, who first appeared in the financial services world in the late 1980s and early 1990s and their world and the wider socio-cultural world that surrounded them, defined them, and supported them.

As an expression, it was widely used in the 1990s, and after the millennium, - and had seeped out into wider culture - a usage that continued, right up until, if I had to hazard a guess, the financial crash of 2008, which probably did for many of them and their world.
 
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