1. Likely.
2. Possible.
3. Not happening.
4. Apple will still claim 10 hrs. The actual battery life is already 15 hrs for many.
5. Dream on.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Wow the 10.5 is the one! How could it be any better?
- Thread starter Booji
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
1. Likely.
2. Possible.
3. Not happening.
4. Apple will still claim 10 hrs. The actual battery life is already 15 hrs for many.
5. Dream on.
The 10.5 can probably be better, but I haven't got around to thinking that way. I'm still thinking of the first time, a couple of weeks ago, that I touched the screen. It was buttery smooth. That alone sold me on the device. Sure, I suppose it could be better, but for now I'm just enjoying what's there.
I'd like the little foldable tablets from west world. I saw that and had a nerdgasm
To me, I don't really see the iPad hardware all that compelling. It''s thin and light weight. But it's the fluidity of the display and how smooth everything operates. I think it's the software versus the hardware that really shines.
Somewhere to stash the pencil like on the old newton
I'm wondering about the merits of making a second stylus that is thinner and a bit smaller than the Pencil, which could be stored within the current Thickness of the iPad, and also charged while inside the iPad... This could be the Apple Pen, used primarily for handwriting and UI interaction. The Pencil would remain the preferred tool for drawing and other forms of art.
They achieve pretty much the same thing with a "long press" on the iPad, so I don't see that it's really needed.
Software versus hardware? Does everything have to be so binary? Without the right hardware, software doesn't have a chance to shine (and vice versa).
Isn't the bespoke integration of hardware and software one of the things that makes Apple so distinctive?
So everybody should share the same views on what piques their interest to the iPad. "Distinctive" would have to depend on the users reasoning for the upgrade or purchase, because it's not the same appeal to every user pending what they want from the iPad. Hardware is only superficial, Everyone sees Apple products differently and are attracted to different aspects of the product. The iPad has great hardware, but it's typically the same hardware design it has been in years past, only thinner and lighter. The software is what makes the iPad boast what the user can accomplish. When you consider features like the Promotion display and or True-Tone for example, those are features that make the experience that much more. Which, in this year of the newly released iPad Pros, it's primarily the integration of the internal upgrades and expanded Apple Pencil support coupled with iOS 11. Its Really a to each their own situation On what somebody considers distinctive, even though both hardware and software co-exist in tandem.
Last edited:
Not sure where I suggested that there was only one way to view this. One person says, "Hardware," another "Software," a third says, "Both." All are free-standing opinions, as far as I know.
That said, there's a difference between the externals of physical design (certainly something that shows a consistent thread over many years), and internal design, which encompasses an ever-evolving line of A-series CPUs, GPUs, motion processors, displays, sensors, etc. It's not like Apple froze the internals of iPad in 2014 and has simply been improving software ever since. The display technologies you cited are not software-only, they require displays capable of supporting them - you build for wide color gamut and multiple clock rates, you code to take advantage of them.
As to iOS 11... since it also runs on plenty of other iPads, including my first-generation 12.9" iPad Pro, I'm not clear how that makes the 10.5" Pro distinctive. And since it's in beta, you can't assume a person who extolls the virtues of the 10.5 is even running it.
#1. OLED with a low-persistence option would blow away LCD ProMotion in motion quality. I doubt an OLED panel will be in the next model, but that would be great. I'd like the better viewing angles too. Even looking straight on with an LCD, there is diminishing brightness towards the edges of the display.
#5 The iPad is definitely over 8-bit, possibly with temporal dithering. Otherwise, I don’t see how it could support wider color gamut images without sacrificing quality on standard sRGB images. I don’t think HDR is possible with LCD in a device so thin.
I'd like the 10.5 to cost $329.
Seems we are branching off different tangents here and I think you're misconstruing my point(s) from above. My whole theory behind an iPad or any other piece of Apple product that is manufactured, is that it's well-made, which we all know. But hardware is only superficial and eventually wears off with the user. The true experience comes with iOS/watchOS/macOS. How many times have we heard Cook comment on the iOS experience is known for.
Again, another example would be the second generation 12.9 iPad Pro from the first generation 12.9 iPad Pro. Physically, the second generation 12.9 iPad Pro is almost identically the same, only being slightly thinner and lighter. Internally, it's changed enough with the Promotion display (Which also assisted with the reduced Apple Pencil latency of 20ms), Tru-Tone and the speed of the A10X processor is compelling enough for somebody to upgrade not because necessarily of the revamped hardware changes, but what it has to offer internally for the user experience, which is obviously peppered throughout the iPad forum.
So, hardware and software operate in tandem. But its the software that wins long run over the hardware, especially taking into consideration with iOS updates and how the user can benefit from the software for productivity purposes. iOS 11 being an example debuting September of how it will expand the iPad capabilities and proficiency. But thanks for the discussion.
Last edited:
#1 Too early
#2 Too early
#3 Hmm probably not, replace port with cup holder
#4 Too early
#5 Too early
Maybe next year would be too early as by the sounds of it they've barely managed to 'solve' home button in IP8 but LCD and the current design is definitely on borrowed time.
Damn good. I almost couldn't get past the first episode because I don't really like westerns, but I stayed because they showed boobs so much and I'm glad I did. The following episodes are some of the best storytelling I've ever experienced. It tells things in such a way that makes you think afterwards about the meaning of life and our purpose in it.
It's hard to watch it and then move onto anything else. It's like when I watched every season of breaking bad back to back and I was spoiled by how great of a show it was. And then I had to watch something else and was let down that it wasn't as good. I had that very same feeling after watching west world. I highly highly recommend it
Just picked it up now so will set it up when I get home. I went with rose gold 256Gb.
It sounds like I'm not the only person who is more interested in software capabilities vs hardware specs. I badly want to replace my old MBP with a 12.9 IPP. iOS 11 >almost< gets the iPad where i need it to be. I can't remember the last time I used a cd/dvd in my MBP. I rarely use a usb drive anymore. So I can live without removable storage. The new "Files" system with local storage plays into my workflow. I could probably even live without that, considering how much I use and store in Box. Multitasking updates and drag-and-drop are a big seller for me. But until I can run multiple instances of the same app, I'm gonna run the MBP until it dies.
more ram would make it better for me. i cant open some of my paintings done on my windows tablets because it exceeds the ipad pro hardware specs.
Admittedly i am a fringe use case.
[doublepost=1501181164][/doublepost]oh and OSX would make it my only device, instead of having to lug around a windows tablet and a iOS tablet.
I would love to lug around a OS x tablet!
[doublepost=1501181302][/doublepost]
why do you think to early? these features are all available on windows tablets?
Admittedly i am a fringe use case.
[doublepost=1501181164][/doublepost]oh and OSX would make it my only device, instead of having to lug around a windows tablet and a iOS tablet.
I would love to lug around a OS x tablet!
[doublepost=1501181302][/doublepost]
#1 Too early
#2 Too early
#3 Hmm probably not, replace port with cup holder
#4 Too early
#5 Too early
Maybe next year would be too early as by the sounds of it they've barely managed to 'solve' home button in IP8 but LCD and the current design is definitely on borrowed time.
why do you think to early? these features are all available on windows tablets?