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So if I understand it right, it might be a calibration thing but apple will not correct it what means that we have the option to accept it or to play with the hue settings. If we choose the hue settings and add blue to the yellow screen we loose brighteness what I can accept, but do we also loose an accurate reproduction of all other colors? It seems that every color looks more washed out.

When you add “color settings” to the accessibility shortcut and jump between color setting on and off the difference is quite big and remembers you how the screen could look like. It looks at first pretty blueish when you put it back on but the brain adapt quickly to the fake white.
 
This is Erica Griffin’s comment on Zollotech’s YouTube video:

“The issue is these displays are coming closer to the standard for sRGB, which is 6504K, D65 white. But when they are doing this the blue color channel is lacking within the grayscale, which leaves red and green higher in the grayscale balance. Red and green wavelengths make yellow. Sometimes green will be a bit higher then red and you get greenish yellow. The iPhone X was a cooler white. It had much more blue. LCDs are often quite blueish and that is what people are used to and coming from. Blue is perceived as brighter and whiter, cleaner. Where a yellowish display looks dingy and worn out. After the iPhone X I’ve been seeing this on all oled displays released afterwards. You can have a white point that is a color temperature of 6500 (correlated color temp) along the 6500 Kelvin isotemperature line without actually being white. This is where I think there are some calculation and calibration errors. Unless they are doing this on purpose to keep the blue channel down to be less straining on the eyes. Still that doesn’t make sense. Nevertheless it doesn’t look nice. So as it is 6504k, D56 white is a warmer looking color temp than most people are used to, having come from LCDs or a cooler iPhone. But what they are being most disturbed by is the RGB balance being slightly unnatural with too much green. The sky looks yellow and even reddish or cool in the shade but I’ve never seen a greenish sky... it’s a true to life color and you WILL notice when those are off. Messing with the color filters will decrease the brightness of the display and doesn’t actually fix anything but may be nicer to look at.”

So much for Super Retina XDR displays being “precisely calibrated to deliver an optimal viewing experience”.
 
Just went to another store, perfect whites on all of them. Mine is brighter but significant yellowing. So far only BB had a few models that were almost as yellow as mine, all other stores i went to had perfect whites.
 
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So if I understand it right, it might be a calibration thing but apple will not correct it what means that we have the option to accept it or to play with the hue settings. If we choose the hue settings and add blue to the yellow screen we loose brighteness what I can accept, but do we also loose an accurate reproduction of all other colors? It seems that every color looks more washed out.

When you add “color settings” to the accessibility shortcut and jump between color setting on and off the difference is quite big and remembers you how the screen could look like. It looks at first pretty blueish when you put it back on but the brain adapt quickly to the fake white.
I did not find that the color tint impacted the accuracy of the other colors. I did find that the yellow cast without the color tint did impact all colors. My real issue with the color tint is the impact to the brightness as I found it to be very noticeable. Obviously not ideal.

If Apple will drop the ball and let the manufacturer be sloppy with the calibration, then they should stop being stubborn control freaks and let users truly/properly adjust the colors, it literally would cost them nothing.
 
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I returned my initial purchase (Mini) because text and battery life was sheet.

Then purchased a black 12 and noticed the yellow tint when tilting. Swapped it for another black a few days later (Similar issue).

Then a 3rd 12 (this time a red). But with color filter enabled, the tint isn't as noticeable as the previous 2.


I'll wait a few months....
 
For those that got a replacement phone from Apple care+ and are using that to keep swapping phones till you get a good one, how did it work? Just call and ask for express replacement through Applecare+? Would you then have to get a new Apple care for each new device every time or it just transfers over/they send you new devices based on just the original Applecare till you’re satisfied?
 
Went to my local Apple store and purchased a 256GB PB S/N:G0NDP, Week 46 production date November 15th, factory G0. Very happy to say the screen is white with no yellow tint or green tint. Looks as good as my wife’s XS Max and better than my sons 11 pro Max. Also very happy that its the G9N panel verified in 3utools.

I Hope everyone gets the screen that they deserve, but I’m out of this thread before it drives me crazy and in turn I drive my wife and kids even more crazier.

What I did is verify the serial numbers in the software below and 1 was a week 43 and the one I purchased was a week 46. Decided to take a chance on the week 46 and glad I did. May help someone out if they want to fast check the week while at the Apple store. You don’t even have to open the box or buy before you check.


Thanks to all who helped out in this thread.

EDITED: Removed the USA factory assembly.
 
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For those that got a replacement phone from Apple care+ and are using that to keep swapping phones till you get a good one, how did it work? Just call and ask for express replacement through Applecare+? Would you then have to get a new Apple care for each new device every time or it just transfers over/they send you new devices based on just the original Applecare till you’re satisfied?
You contact them for replacement but they might or might not do it for you now since they are "aware and fixing the issue", and will tell you that you might get another yellow one
 
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Went to my local Apple store and purchased a 256GB PB S/N:G0NDP, Week 46 production date November 15th, factory G09(assembled in the USA). Very happy to say the screen is white with no yellow tint or green tint. Looks as good as my wife’s XS Max and better than my sons 11 pro Max. Also very happy that its the G9N panel verified in 3utools.

I Hope everyone gets the screen that they deserve, but I’m out of this thread before it drives me crazy and in turn I drive my wife and kids even more crazier.

What I did is verify the serial numbers in the software below and 1 was a week 43 and the one I purchased was a week 46. Decided to take a chance on the week 46 and glad I did. May help someone out if they want to fast check the week while at the Apple store. You don’t even have to open the box or buy before you check.


Thanks to all who helped out in this thread.

Congratulations on wining the Apple display lottery! However, G0 is not a factory in the United States. I am expecting delivery of a G0 12 Pro Max that was shipped from ZhengZhou where Foxconn has a factory. However, I have read that G0 is a Pegatron factory near Shanghai.
 
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Went to my local Apple store and purchased a 256GB PB S/N:G0NDP, Week 46 production date November 15th, factory G09(assembled in the USA). Very happy to say the screen is white with no yellow tint or green tint. Looks as good as my wife’s XS Max and better than my sons 11 pro Max. Also very happy that its the G9N panel verified in 3utools.

I Hope everyone gets the screen that they deserve, but I’m out of this thread before it drives me crazy and in turn I drive my wife and kids even more crazier.

What I did is verify the serial numbers in the software below and 1 was a week 43 and the one I purchased was a week 46. Decided to take a chance on the week 46 and glad I did. May help someone out if they want to fast check the week while at the Apple store. You don’t even have to open the box or buy before you check.


Thanks to all who helped out in this thread.
Apple doesn’t assemble phones in the US, but good thing that you got a good display.
 
Just went to another store, perfect whites on all of them. Mine is brighter but significant yellowing. So far only BB had a few models that were almost as yellow as mine, all other stores i went to had perfect whites.
Was that an Apple Store?????
 
Went to my local Apple store and purchased a 256GB PB S/N:G0NDP, Week 46 production date November 15th, factory G09(assembled in the USA). Very happy to say the screen is white with no yellow tint or green tint. Looks as good as my wife’s XS Max and better than my sons 11 pro Max. Also very happy that its the G9N panel verified in 3utools.

I Hope everyone gets the screen that they deserve, but I’m out of this thread before it drives me crazy and in turn I drive my wife and kids even more crazier.

What I did is verify the serial numbers in the software below and 1 was a week 43 and the one I purchased was a week 46. Decided to take a chance on the week 46 and glad I did. May help someone out if they want to fast check the week while at the Apple store. You don’t even have to open the box or buy before you check.


Thanks to all who helped out in this thread.
Do you think that if it is essembled in USA have something to do with the display?
 
G0 factory does seem to be putting out better screens than other factories. Both G0 12 PMs I got as replacements were far better than my original F2 Pro Max, and I’ve seen multiple people in this thread say they got a G0 and it looks good, or at least better than their previous. Also, I think everyone with a G0 phone in this thread has said they have a G9N panel, which is supposed to be the better Samsung panel.
 
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Having the same issue, iPhone 12 Black 256GB.

Ordered through Apple Store Thailand (was delivered from Singapore). Mine is week 41 (October), SN: G6TD... Anyone else with these SN and a good/bad display?

TrueTone is unusable, it's too yellow, but when I restart the phone, for a few minutes it's better even with TrueTone on (like it's not being applied that much), then it's goes back to yellow after time.

And without, it's much more yellow when I compare it to my previous iPhone 6S or and another Samsung OLED display. Also much more yellow than my wife's iPhone 11 (though that's not OLED, so not sure if it's a good idea to compare OLED to non-OLED, probably not?)

What's even worse, I was double charged by Apple Store. I ordered the phone on 2nd, got charged and delivered 2 days later. Then yesterday evening I was charged 2 times from Apple, where 1 amount looks like iPhone, second like a price of case (though before I ordered it together and I had more items in my order including a charger). I immediately called bank and blocked the card and asked for a refund as I did not order anything and I was already properly charged (debit card). I'm on line with Apple call center as well, 31+ minutes in, nobody answers, unbelievable.

I'm coming from Samsung/Android, wanted to switch back to iPhone this year, but these issues makes me hopeless. I still could do replacement, but if it's a lottery I'm not sure if I have nerves for this. Refund is another option, but then my previous phone has broken display and I would need to stick to an older phone and I really wanted to move back to Apple ecosystem.

Btw, on my last visit to local stores (carriers and Apple reseller in my town), at the carrier they had clear white displays and this is actually what really started to make me worry, but then at the reseller they were also yellowish.

I have a plan to visit Apple Store in Bangkok probably next weekend (they got 2 stores there) and see how does their show phones look like and if there is any chance to get a good one.

This is a display, not some random scratch or something, I have to look on it everyday..
 
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Having the same issue, iPhone 12 Black 256GB.

Ordered through Apple Store Thailand (was delivered from Singapore). Mine is week 41 (October), SN: G6TD... Anyone else with these SN and a good/bad display?
Yes, mine is a bad display. G6TDK
 
So do you guys think it is better to keep my G9N S/N display phone (with G0N serial number) instead of risking the possibility of getting another worse display? When reading this thread I get the impression that there are far more "bad" displays around than "good" displays. I'm not sure it's worth it. Since it's only my first Pro Max I don't really have any reference if mine is one of the better ones or not.
 
I did not find that the color tint impacted the accuracy of the other colors. I did find that the yellow cast without the color tint did impact all colors. My real issue with the color tint is the impact to the brightness as I found it to be very noticeable. Obviously not ideal.

If Apple will drop the ball and let the manufacturer be sloppy with the calibration, then they should stop being stubborn control freaks and let users truly/properly adjust the colors, it literally would cost them nothing.
Obviously the yellow impact all colors that’s why we are all here, I hoped someone in the 150 pages had measured the results with tint on. If I had a colorimeter I would have measured it I am fighting with this problem since 10 days have to decide if I keep or return my devices. How could so many specialized websites praise this screen when we are all here complaining.

I have 2 mini here 256gb both pretty similar yellow, I went to couple of stores to compare all minis, there were all nearly identical, the only phone I found out to have clearly a better panel was the 12 standard. It was not day and night but clearly a more cold oled panel or calibration as I would accept it to be. And this better 12 standard experience was the same in different stores. As it is now it’s hard to swallow the hint solution for the price, it’s not subtle enough the blue tint is quite strong, I am pretty sure it’s affecting all colors, it does help but is not good enough. Too bad after 4 years of iPhone SE waiting for a smaller phone to come out I really wanted something to work with for the next couple of years..
 
Was that an Apple Store?????
It was a retailer, but so far 2/3 retailers had perfect displays and the 3rd had some with yellowing but not nearly as bad. In all, my phone was noticeably brighter (same exact settings). Will compare to Apple store and see how their displays are. Likely going to request new phone from Apple care, the yellow just washes out all the colors, once moved to a computer (properly calibrated) or even a different device (X) the photo looks entirely different and how it should. Apple is not going to be changing anything imo, doubt they can even if they wanted to as it is hardware and no way to know who’s display looks like what/what their preferences are. Only solution is return/exchange.
 
I just received a new iPhone 12 pro that just arrived from Pasadena. It does appear a bit yellow compared to my iPad Pro’s screen. Damn now it cannot be unseen.
 
As a bonus the brightness seems much lower today compared to other phones. I know 12 has lower nits than Pro, but its all kinda washed out.
 
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