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I think I'm resigned to the "accessibility workaround" while we play the wait and see game. I tweaked it ever so slightly in the blue/magenta range so that it now looks pretty damn good.

Hopefully if the displays return to the normal calibration in the new year, we'll be able to swap them out under AppleCare+
 
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I think we've kinda determined that the white point is pretty close to 6500k on these, its the lack of red/blue that gives it the yellow/green hue.

The 12's are around ~6300k-6400k. Tested this personally and multiple online tests (eg: Displaymate) show it's not 6500k.
 
The 12's are around ~6300k-6400k. Tested this personally and multiple online tests (eg: Displaymate) show it's not 6500k.

Can this be changed with a software update?

So the screens on the 12s match the 11 series.

Piss yellow screen is shocking in dark mode at night. 🤦‍♂️
 
The 12's are around ~6300k-6400k. Tested this personally and multiple online tests (eg: Displaymate) show it's not 6500k.
So given the info of Displaymate makes sense of what some people are sensing and makes me think it's intended by Apple. Those who say don't sense it maybe just a matter of their own personal perception but It's starting to be clear that the intended temperature is ~6300k-6400k whereas the 11's were 6500k.

It's also consistent with people asking for replacements because of they sensing a warmer display and getting the exact same thing over and over again.

That, imo, opens the door for a software tweak
 
Its generally something that has to be done panel to panel, as all are unique.
If almost everyone is getting the same, tweaking the base color seems that will give the same gradual improvement to every display regardless of their uniqueness and how they've been calibrated in factory imo
 
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It's also consistent with people asking for replacements because of they sensing a warmer display and getting the exact same thing over and over again.
It’s not people just seeing a warmer screen, when dark mode is on, grey colors look green and yellow. The panels in the 12s look worse than 4-5 year old iPhone in certain use cases. 🤦‍♂️
 
It’s not people just seeing a warmer screen, when dark mode is on, grey colors look green and yellow. The panels in the 12s look worse than 4-5 year old iPhone in certain use cases. 🤦‍♂️
I'm not saying it's peoples imagination. I'm saying that some people might sense it, others not
 
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I think we've kinda determined that the white point is pretty close to 6500k on these, its the lack of red/blue that gives it the yellow/green hue.
That conclusion aligns with the YouTube video from Erica if I’m not mistaken. I believe she addresses that in the video or in the comments to the video.
 
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So given the info of Displaymate makes sense of what some people are sensing and makes me think it's intended by Apple. Those who say don't sense it maybe just a matter of their own personal perception but It's starting to be clear that the intended temperature is ~6300k-6400k whereas the 11's were 6500k.

It's also consistent with people asking for replacements because of they sensing a warmer display and getting the exact same thing over and over again.

That, imo, opens the door for a software tweak
This is an intentional move by APPLE to preserve battery power. Not only is the screen yellow it’s not as bright.
The brighter the screen the quicker the battery goes and has to be recharged
 
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So given the info of Displaymate makes sense of what some people are sensing and makes me think it's intended by Apple. Those who say don't sense it maybe just a matter of their own personal perception but It's starting to be clear that the intended temperature is ~6300k-6400k whereas the 11's were 6500k.
It doesn’t make sense for Apple to intentionally change to a nonstandard color temperature, unless it is caused by technical reasons, because it causes photos/videos to be displayed with inaccurate colors. In addition, the same yellow tint is also observed on Android models this year. Therefore it seems that this has to do with how OLED panels are currently produced and (possibly) factory-calibrated. As has already been speculated in this thread, it’s conceivable that it is a trade-off in order to meet certain brightness or energy efficiency targets. But it’s certainly not the case that Apple decided “let’s make the displays only 6350K this year”.
 
But you think Apple will replace the screens of millions of phones? Hmm...I wonder which makes more sense for Apple, quietly adding a feature buried in settings that alleviates this problem, or admit this is a problem and start a screen replacement program. 🤔
Quietly adding the feature would be the logical thing to do, but Apple is not always logical in their actions. People complaining about yellow screens is not new, it just appears worse this year.

If Apple’s actions were driven by logic, the color calibration feature would have been added 10 years ago and by now would have saved dozens of millions of dollars in return shipping costs alone from people returning phones due to being unhappy with odd tints in the displays.

You forgot about option C: ignore the problem. Not even Macrumors will run a front page story on this. Without any pressure from the media or key people who have Apple’s ear, this will be completely ignored by Apple. That is what my logic tells me based on history.
 
I wonder if the reason why people keep getting similar screens when they get a replacement is because Apple keeps shipping out the returns.
 
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Just got my Silver 12Pro 256gb and within 5 mins it’s going straight back in the box and back to apple!

it isn’t yellow just dim and washed out like I’ve got some crap screen protector on it! This is my second I had the pacific blue befor that also being washed out but with a yellow tint....I’m am so peed off!

the display on the two 12 pros I’ve had are not a patch on my iPhone X the colours don’t pop and they seem like only what I can discribe as Misty like I’ve got some cheap screen protector on them.

I may stick to my X for another year this display has spoilt me on this phone, unless anyone can tell me if there’s a great display out there?
 
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Just put a new screen protector on my X and changed to a barley used diztronic case in blue.

Livin life.
 
Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but is it possible that the new Ceramic Shield cover glass is responsible for the new hue???
 
Final update from my end. After seeing that the replacement that was offered to me at the Apple store had worse screen issues than my original 12 PM (yellow tint vs green tint & flickering screen), I just straight up returned the 12 PM and will be sticking with my trusty XS for the time being. 4 hours wasted at the Apple store, I'm now home empty handed. If things improve over time, or they acknowledge the issue, I will consider repurchasing at that time. I neither have the time, nor patience to deal with the screen lottery.

Part of me was thinking "Just accept the yellow and move on" like many of you here. But for the price they are charging, we must hold them to a standard. It's one thing if this were a $600 "midrange" or what not device. They charge a premium for a premium product and we should hold them to a premium standard. I have no problem spending the money, but it must be well spent. We simply can't reward this behavior.
 
So many people say that the 11 OLED didn't have these issues. Here is mine. Both photos full brightness, no true tone, taken by my V60. You can clearly see which is with color filters on and which is off. I think the 12 series are worse than this. Brightness is affected, colors slightly shifted but it looks white to my eyes. So I obviously settled. Don't settle.
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So many people say that the 11 OLED didn't have these issues. Here is mine. Both photos full brightness, no true tone, taken by my V60. You can clearly see which is with color filters on and which is off. I think the 12 series are worse than this. Brightness is affected, colors slightly shifted but it looks white to my eyes. So I obviously settled. Don't settle.
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Unless you have another phone to use for another year I agree. In my case my X is borderline unusable at 80% battery life lol, so I’ll prolly be keeping my 12PM, at least until the return window ends. I seem to be noticing it less and less tbh.

I’ve compared it to the X multiple times now. I find the difference is mostly there at lower brightness levels, but even then I think it is arguable which phone is correct with no way of checking.

On top of this like several people have pointed out, mobile phone displays seem to be headed in this direction this year - I doubt we’ll see anything different.
 
Unless you have another phone to use for another year I agree. In my case my X is borderline unusable at 80% battery life lol, so I’ll prolly be keeping my 12PM, at least until the return window ends. I seem to be noticing it less and less tbh.

I’ve compared it to the X multiple times now. I find the difference is mostly there at lower brightness levels, but even then I think it is arguable which phone is correct with no way of checking.

On top of this like several people have pointed out, mobile phone displays seem to be headed in this direction this year - I doubt we’ll see anything different.

I'd get the battery replaced. That or I'd keep playing the screen lottery until I was satisfied. If you're okay with it, that's fine. I'm just saying if you are not, don't settle. Apple will only care about an issue if people don't let it slide like I did.
 
I'd get the battery replaced. That or I'd keep playing the screen lottery until I was satisfied. If you're okay with it, that's fine. I'm just saying if you are not, don't settle. Apple will only care about an issue if people don't let it slide like I did.

How will playing the screen lottery help? Every user reports a yellow cast or warmer display when compared to previous models to some extent, so unless Apple changes supplier somewhere down the line you’ll keep getting equal or worse displays I’m afraid.

On top of that the displays are supposed to be 6500K, correct me if I’m wrong but that’s warmer than any of the previous models, let alone an X 3 years old. Which is why a lot of people, like myself, have freaked out about it.

I’m not saying the screens are spot on by any means, but keep in mind it’s difficult to tell without the right tools. All I’m saying is at this point you’re only wasting time requesting replacements, because they’ll be no better. If you’re completely dissatisfied, return is your only option.

Maybe this’ll change by January, but given the amount of users here being unsuccessful getting a display same as last year’s, or even seeing one at an Apple Store, I think it’s unlikely this’ll be the case.
 
How will playing the screen lottery help? Every user reports a yellow cast or warmer display when compared to previous models to some extent, so unless Apple changes supplier somewhere down the line you’ll keep getting equal or worse displays I’m afraid.

On top of that the displays are supposed to be 6500K, correct me if I’m wrong but that’s warmer than any of the previous models, let alone an X 3 years old. Which is why a lot of people, like myself, have freaked out about it.

I’m not saying the screens are spot on by any means, but keep in mind it’s difficult to tell without the right tools. All I’m saying is at this point you’re only wasting time requesting replacements, because they’ll be no better. If you’re completely dissatisfied, return is your only option.

Maybe this’ll change by January, but given the amount of users here being unsuccessful getting a display same as last year’s, or even seeing one at an Apple Store, I think it’s unlikely this’ll be the case.


I checked the screens at best buy and all of their 12/pro/12pm have cool/correct whites (yes I turned off true tone,auto brightness, dark mode and night shift off before comparing my X screens to them).
 
Another 12 Pro, another return.

I got my second 12 Pro today and immediatley noticed a yellow screen. Bummer.

I went to a local Apple shop and saw that my 12 Pro was similar to many of the models in the store. In fact, it was BETTER than some of them. There was a 12 Pro Max there that looked so washed out, I was flabbergasted when I compared my pro to it.

But anyway. There was ONE model in the store that stood out from the others. It looked pretty much perfect.

It is shown on the right here. 12 Pro.

My 12 pro is on the left.

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Bummed out. The difference wasnt huge, but its big enough for me to notice. The 12 Pro on the right, in the store, felt better on whites. It was subtle, but noticable.

This picture is taken with my 8, so the white balance isnt quite right. The one on the right looks a bit more purple/blue here than it did in the store.
I have a launch 12 Regular and will say that for years I have been plagued with yellow screens, greenish hue screens and washed out screens. My 12 has as close to perfect, cool, blue, bright and vibrant screen as I have ever seen over the past decade. It is very similar to the 12 Pro on the right side of your pic, if not even more “Cool”. I’ve compared mine to several displays in my local Best Buy, Costco and have EVEN requested and received an Express Replacement simply as one final comparison. My phone was cooler and more vibrant than all of them with TT and NS off. In fact, my screen was still cooler and bluer than most of them with TT enabled.
The “Poster Child” of displays DOES exist. I’m not trying to boast, rather to inform you all to not be convinced that Apple simply has intended on “Warmer” screens. Quite the contrary. I’m happy to report that my 12 Regular is proof.
 
I'm probably sticking with my X but I don't think this issue will improve or get resolved next year. I am 99% sure this is because Samsung and LG are making warmer displays because blue light evil, or something. They have press releases about it on their website.

It's kinda amazing that everyone just accepts it. I get that people get used to the warmer display but photos look so unnatural to me.
 
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