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Yellow tint on Haswell rMBP 15"
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I'm overlooking any color shift but looking at the falloff itself which looks pretty normal but even than I know a iPhone will add more contrast than normal. Its a srgb device which does not cover the full gamut of color and tone. Also Im a Pro so I understand this much better than a lay person looking at these things if you know what I mean. Better said I know the limitations of these devices like a iPhone. Also web is srgb so color and tone get shrunk to fit the color space which is very small compared to the printed press lets say which is Adobe RGB and a much bigger color space, that carries color and tone much bigger. Im trying to keep this simple and not talk over your head since it is fairly complicated. Thats not a dig just something your not aware of.
Now there is no harm in making a genius appointment and bring it in and see what they think. End of day you want to be comfortable and truthfully not think about this again because stuff like this would bug me to no end if I was in doubt.
All I want to do is help folks understand this a little better when it comes to color, tone, white balance and things that will have some effect on this problem. I think myself its not the screen brand but more a bonding issue in the production process and reason we are seeing blotchiness in these screens. They press these things together and apparently something id off in that process or we would not see some of these really bad issues folks are having. I'm totally Pro return if unhappy, these cost a load of money and you should get the quality you seek from it. I bought a completely maxed out unit and it was expensive to say the least.
Wow that's a whole lot of info lol, to be honest I was finally happy with this replacement when I look at it in real life it looks great but then when I come here on the forum for some reason I get so OCD and start looking for something wrong with my Mac, I know the photo is not a true presentation of what the screen looks like in real life but when you look at it do you see a lot of yellow or blotchiness?
Fitgirl, for the sake of your own sanity, I recommend that you stop visiting this forum and enjoy your MacBook!!
Hey Im have freaking crazy anyway, what you expect. LOL
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Fitgirl, for the sake of your own sanity, I recommend that you stop visiting this forum and enjoy your MacBook!!
I agree enjoy your Macbook.
Stop reading all the negative. Forums are more about the negative than the positive. Do you think anyone would care or respond when I say I love my Mac, its the best thing since sliced bread. Most responses would be who cares. LOL
The good out of this long thread is the issue is brought up and by now Apple may have heard about it and responding to it. Hopefully that is
I am awaiting on 3rd 15". First one, manufactured early Oct, was Samsung display, slight yellow cast but acceptable overall, but had the creaking chassis. Second one was LG, manufactured late Oct, cooler color temp, but had Red cast on left 25% of screen, as well as dent on bottom case. Unacceptable.
What I also noticed was that when scaled to 1680x1050 or 1920x1200, Samsung panel was slightly sharper than the LG.
What I also noticed was that when scaled to 1680x1050 or 1920x1200, Samsung panel was slightly sharper than the LG.
It is crazy the amount of computers some of us are having to go through at this point. Every time I talk to Apple they tell me they don't know anything about this, that it isn't a wide spread problem and yet they allow me to replace and replace.
If a customer of mine was waiting for their 3rd, 4th or 5th replacement of a product my company puts out I would be questioning either our manufacturing or that customer. I would certainly be examining every system that individual returned to us to make sure what they say is true and if it wasn't I would not allow them another exchange.
So why is Apple continually allowing me to exchange if they aren't seeing the problem? Twice now they have said they would have a specialist not only examine the system I receive but also examine the one I send back and yet they still allow me to exchange again after both those times so clearly they are seeing what I'm seeing no?
Just strange and frustrating.
If a customer of mine was waiting for their 3rd, 4th or 5th replacement of a product my company puts out I would be questioning either our manufacturing or that customer. I would certainly be examining every system that individual returned to us to make sure what they say is true and if it wasn't I would not allow them another exchange.
So why is Apple continually allowing me to exchange if they aren't seeing the problem? Twice now they have said they would have a specialist not only examine the system I receive but also examine the one I send back and yet they still allow me to exchange again after both those times so clearly they are seeing what I'm seeing no?
Just strange and frustrating.
I checked my model numbers each time and they were all built a week to two weeks apart from each other. So the three I received at-least did not come from the same batch unless they had a huge amount of screens delivered in one go at the start of last month.
I do not remember I did a few updates one may have been the OS X mavericks update I cannot be sure.
What I can tell you however is both of my replacements did not prompt me to install the EFI firmware update which means they were already up to date.
2nd try
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the feedback earlier, I have now taken this snap with my DSLR.
I can see yellowishness on the bottom left and the two grey bands don't seem the same to me.
I have one week to return my 2.3/1TB/750M, I paid £2600 or $4,180 which is a lot of money for this.
As I live in the UK the BTOs are not available in the retail Apple stores, so its a bit more of a mission to return via the tele-sales team.
Before I pull the trigger I would like your opinions please ... its a LP154WT1-SJE1 (LG screen).
Whatcha think?
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the feedback earlier, I have now taken this snap with my DSLR.
I can see yellowishness on the bottom left and the two grey bands don't seem the same to me.
I have one week to return my 2.3/1TB/750M, I paid £2600 or $4,180 which is a lot of money for this.
As I live in the UK the BTOs are not available in the retail Apple stores, so its a bit more of a mission to return via the tele-sales team.
Before I pull the trigger I would like your opinions please ... its a LP154WT1-SJE1 (LG screen).
Whatcha think?
Based on that picture I would say the bottom grey bar is darker than the top grey bar. However I cannot see any yellowing. But again this is based on this photo, what you actually see with your own eyes trumps what I see from this photo.
From this picture it looks much better than any of the ones I've received that's for sure but if you're not happy with it, return it. You paid an awful lot of money and should get the machine you wanted.
If that was mine--and provided the backlighting is nice and even--I would absolutely keep that display. Looks totally acceptable to me.
This thread has the ability to promote mild mental illness if you let it. If you don't see a problem with your display in normal use, don't go looking for one unless you enjoy that sort of thing.
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Two things your slightly off center and to the right of center believe it or not the right side is also sharper than the left and your slightly overexposed and with that its hard to tell. But outside of those little things it looks pretty good. But your eyes staring at it all day what counts. Need to remember these images are up to interpretation from the viewer so your answers are going to be subjective.
Yeah. I call total Bullshiit on Apple's support staff not knowing about the issue. I am sure they know about it, but are told to be unaware of the problem and then sympathise with the caller to get you on their side. It's simply psychology. I'm onto my 3rd iPad Air now and yet the Apple support staff all claim to know nothing about it and talk about some vague concept of compensation to string you along and quieten your disapproval until you get off the phone realising that nothing has happened.
Luckily I dealt with Apple Japan with my rMBP and got the problem fixed on the 2nd attempt. Apple care via Australia here in Japan for i-devices is shocking in comparison.
Tim Cook says, "As Dr. Martin Luther King once said, the time is always right to do what's right. At Apple, we do the right thing. Even when it's not easy. If you see something that doesn't meet our standards, speak up. Whether it's a quality issue or a business practice, if it affects Apple's integrity, we need to know about it."
I think we should all write to him about this issue. If he's being honest, he will be very happy we did so, and if enough people write, he will have to say something.
I think we should all write to him about this issue. If he's being honest, he will be very happy we did so, and if enough people write, he will have to say something.
macbook pro retina late 2013 1 november production (44 week)
LG LP154WT1-SJE1 model
no problems with ir, and i not see any yellowish(only on black screen in dark- very very little in left down corner and purple in right up corner), uniformity in general ok
but on max not bright at all! comfort but if can be brighter-> more white color
so I work only on max(on evening and night) or max or 1-2 value less(in daytime), but mostly on max. i think it's not good brightness at all cause i compare with ips(nec pa241w, 20wgx2 or macbook air-all are brighty). I found anandtech review of 20% less brightness of retina and 1 review also mentioned that.
How is brightness or your lg/samsung retina's? cause i saw 2 lg machines- 1 with same brightness and yellowish and another(as per foto of person from forums) is bright enough and he works at 50-60-70% of max. and 1 person with samsung one-great brightness, couldn't work at max.
i think situation with samsung screens better in term of brightness?
LG LP154WT1-SJE1 model
no problems with ir, and i not see any yellowish(only on black screen in dark- very very little in left down corner and purple in right up corner), uniformity in general ok
but on max not bright at all! comfort but if can be brighter-> more white color
so I work only on max(on evening and night) or max or 1-2 value less(in daytime), but mostly on max. i think it's not good brightness at all cause i compare with ips(nec pa241w, 20wgx2 or macbook air-all are brighty). I found anandtech review of 20% less brightness of retina and 1 review also mentioned that.
How is brightness or your lg/samsung retina's? cause i saw 2 lg machines- 1 with same brightness and yellowish and another(as per foto of person from forums) is bright enough and he works at 50-60-70% of max. and 1 person with samsung one-great brightness, couldn't work at max.
i think situation with samsung screens better in term of brightness?
The first unit I received was an LG and was very very bright. My two samsung replacements have not been as bright as the LG was.
Thanks, so will change through online apple store. probably next or 3rd/4th will be bright. also will receive machine from latter branch i hope and there will be no ir or yellowish tints. better to get IPS LG instead(more clear and brighter if lucky) of PLS samsung i conclude from forums.
I'm reposting this, because people don't seem to understand this still.
If you can't see yellow tint your self, then just enjoy it. No matter what anyone else sees.
A lot of these photos makes the screens look horrible, and that is 9/10 times just because its extremely hard to take a accurate photo to really show the issue.
Look at the screen your self, if you can't see anything then fine. If you REALLY want to be sure, then just ask a friend to look also, because we really can't help you.
If you can't see yellow tint your self, then just enjoy it. No matter what anyone else sees.
A lot of these photos makes the screens look horrible, and that is 9/10 times just because its extremely hard to take a accurate photo to really show the issue.
Look at the screen your self, if you can't see anything then fine. If you REALLY want to be sure, then just ask a friend to look also, because we really can't help you.
+1,000,000.
I don't think this thread was intended to make every sensitive soul feel like there *might be* something wrong with their display.
Exactly.
If you cant see any yellowing. WHY would any one else opinion matter then?
There really is no logic behind: "He/she says, he/she can see a faint yellowing some where, but I cant. But since he/she does, I should exchange it and risk getting a unit that is MUCH worse and i actually see a yellowing, or have a creaking or any other of the 1000 (estimation ;D) issues this laptops seem to be able to have.
And that logic has even less sanity behind it, if the person that can see it is some one on a forum.