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dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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That's a new one. I have never experienced this issue on Mavericks. And I spend at least 10 hours a day using my Macbook with the Magic Mouse. I definitely had lag/delay on Yosemite but never on Mavericks.
 

thadoggfather

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Oct 1, 2007
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That's a new one. I have never experienced this issue on Mavericks. And I spend at least 10 hours a day using my Macbook with the Magic Mouse. I definitely had lag/delay on Yosemite but never on Mavericks.

maybe its the firmware update?
 

dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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It can't be. I'm using the exact same setup after downgrading to 10.9.5 and never had the issue again. And I spend 10h+/day using my MBP + Magic Mouse.
 

Wautr

macrumors newbie
Mar 25, 2015
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Hi,

I had lag issues with a wireless (usb dongle) keyboard with trackpad only after upgrading to Yosemite from 10.9. After reading this thread that the issue might be related to wifi or bluetooth, I assumed there might be some weird sort of interference introduced after the software upgrade, however unlikely.
I disabled wifi and bluetooth, did disk permission repair, did a reboot, but the issue seemed to persist.

Then I connected the usb dongle to my late 2012 mac mini with a 1 meter USB extension cable. To my surprise, the lag issue hasn't occurred again. Find it quite incredible this could be a work around though, its only day 2 after the fix, will update if the lag returns.

(Wifi and bluetooth are still disabled as well, since I don't need it on this machine anyway)

Maybe something to try?
 

dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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If you could try to turn on at least Wifi for testing, that would be great.

Also, it could be a workaround but it would still affect those who use the Magic Mouse and the Magic Trackpad since no dongle is required.
 

Wautr

macrumors newbie
Mar 25, 2015
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It's still working alright with wifi on..

I'd be interesting if someone else could try this as well and verifies how their keyboard/mouse behaves after the change? Not sure indeed how it could help people with a magic mouse.. does the magic mouse even work with 3th party blue-tooth dongles?
 

dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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I don't know if it does but having to resort to a 3rd party dongle to use a product made by Apple spending even more money than what the Magic Mouse already costs it's ridiculous.

Obviously not attacking your idea/workaround but Apple's lack of interest on fixing this or, at least, acknowledging it.
 

jav1231

macrumors newbie
Jun 7, 2005
10
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Atlanta area
I don't know if it does but having to resort to a 3rd party dongle to use a product made by Apple spending even more money than what the Magic Mouse already costs it's ridiculous.

Obviously not attacking your idea/workaround but Apple's lack of interest on fixing this or, at least, acknowledging it.

My tests are:
Power cycle the Magic Mouse - issue continues.
WiFi off - issue continues.
USB Wireless dongle and mouse - issue continues.

This doesn't appear WiFi or BT related. My USB mouse is just a wireless USB. The issue clears on reboot and returns when the laptop has been up several hours.
 

blaichch

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Jul 26, 2014
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Augsburg, Germany
I also have this problem from time to time. I noticed that bluetooth keyboard and trackpad work fine as soon as I put them directly in front of my Mac Mini. As soon as I put them back (~1/2 meter) they start lagging again. This behavior reminds me when I installed Windows 8.1 via bootcamp where I had exactly the same lags after the installation. But as soon as I activated "Bluetooth Collaboration" it worked fine (Control Panel > Device Manager > Network Adapters > Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter (right click and choose "Properties". Under the "Advanced" tab, highlight the setting named "Bluetooth Collaboration", then change it to Enable. Then click OK.) Maybe it has anything to do with that.

I also found a small fix for it so that I don't have to restart my computer every time it starts lagging:

alt+shilft+click on bluetooth icon in menubar > Create Diagnostics Report on Desktop

After that the mouse lag should stop after a few seconds.
 

rbart

macrumors 65816
Nov 3, 2013
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France
I have the same issue on my iMac 2012 27".
It occurs with my Magic Trackpad and my Magic Mouse.
I think there is a problem with bluetooth and Handoff.
This problem is quite new for me, I have noticed it for one or two weeks.
I have tried to boot on Mavericks, and I haven't reproduced the issue.
I think it's linked to Yosemite bluetooth management.
I don't use Wifi on my iMac (ethernet), I have tried to move it in my house (to check for interferences), I have switched off my Airport, my internet box and the problem persists.
I have tested with 10.10.3 last beta and I haven't reproduced it for the moment.
Wait and see ...
 

dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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Thank you so much for testing and reporting here. This is still the main reason why I got back and still am on Mavericks and would love to keep hearing about it on new betas/point updates. Please keep feedback coming.
 

rbart

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Nov 3, 2013
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Some new tests.
Yesterday I have disabled Handoff function on 10.10.2 then, I have rebooted.
I haven't experienced cursor lags anymore.
I will continue these tests this week-end.
So I have two possible fixes:
- on 10.10.2, try to disable Handoff and reboot
- try 10.10.3 last public beta
- stay on Mavericks (which looks really old when you have used Yosemite for few monthes)
 

Jimi72

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Original poster
Oct 23, 2013
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On a slightly unrelated note... I was playing around with a new user account (trying to resolve another Yosemite related issue) and i noticed that the cursor lag seemed to be very bad on the new account when compared to my existing one. Has any one else experienced anything like this?
 

dastinger

macrumors 6502a
Mar 18, 2012
818
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Some new tests.
Yesterday I have disabled Handoff function on 10.10.2 then, I have rebooted.
I haven't experienced cursor lags anymore.
I will continue these tests this week-end.
So I have two possible fixes:
- on 10.10.2, try to disable Handoff and reboot
- try 10.10.3 last public beta
- stay on Mavericks (which looks really old when you have used Yosemite for few monthes)

Thank you.

Yes, it looks outdated but runs as a beast compared to Yosemite. Let's hope 10.10.3 fixes most of this stuff.
 

dastinger

macrumors 6502a
Mar 18, 2012
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10.10.3 released. Even though a user reported lag on the article thread, I'd like to hear some more opinions. Any news?
 

trovata

macrumors newbie
Oct 16, 2014
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I've never had this issue before but instantly (and permanently) have it now right after the 10.10.3 upgrade!

Oddly enough I have two different mice (one at home and one at my office) and only one of them seems to exhibit the issue for now. I'll monitor the symptons though. Don't know how anyone has been able to put up with this since Oct...THIS IS REALLY FRUSTRATING!
 

dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
818
3
I didn't put up with it and, among other issues, this made me get back to Mavericks. I'm happy with it but I would like to upgrade to Yosemite so it's frustrating that Apple did not fix this after 3 point updates.
 

rstackmd

macrumors newbie
Apr 10, 2015
4
1
Cursor lag

Very severe cursor lag on my iMAC mid 2011 since 'upgrading' to 10.10.3 This is not acceptable. RS
 

Taz Mangus

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Mar 10, 2011
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Very severe cursor lag on my iMAC mid 2011 since 'upgrading' to 10.10.3 This is not acceptable. RS

I have not experienced any cursor lag on my 2011 iMac running 10.10.3. My iMac is the 27" and I use a wireless mouse and trackpad. What is the configuration of your iMac? Might be an application or driver that you have installed that might be causing the issue.

If you boot into safe mode by holding down the shift key while rebooting, does the cursor lag still happen?
 

dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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I have not experienced any cursor lag on my 2011 iMac running 10.10.3. My iMac is the 27" and I use a wireless mouse and trackpad. What is the configuration of your iMac? Might be an application or driver that you have installed that might be causing the issue.

If you boot into safe mode by holding down the shift key while rebooting, does the cursor lag still happen?

You said wireless mouse and trackpad. This might be a stupid question since there are tons of mice but not trackpads. You're using the Magic Mouse and the Magic Trackpad, right?
 

rstackmd

macrumors newbie
Apr 10, 2015
4
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Cursor lag with 10.10.3 'upgrade'

Using the iMAC 21 inc mid-2011 with wireless Apple trackpad and Magic Mouse. I have restarted numerous times, shut down and restarted from off, restarted in SAFE mode, reset PRAM and fixed permissions. No other programs overtly added at time of upgrade or since. Still with tremendous lag in cursor.


OK----I repeated all steps again this morning AND IT WORKED!! Back to baseline performance

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Update. 4/13/15. Two days after the above steps restored speed of pre 10.10.3 install, the system has slowed back to very poor performance. Hopefully APPLE will have a fix for 10.10.3 on iMAC mid-2011. 10.10.3 seems to be performing as expected on my 2013 MBA 13. RS
 
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dastinger

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Mar 18, 2012
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It can't be an issue external do OS X since, with the same settings, apps, environment, router and Magic Mouse the issue exists on Yosemite and not on Mavericks. Now it seems it's affecting people who didn't have the issue on 10.10.2 and lower and have it on 10.10.3.
 

Taz Mangus

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Mar 10, 2011
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You said wireless mouse and trackpad. This might be a stupid question since there are tons of mice but not trackpads. You're using the Magic Mouse and the Magic Trackpad, right?

Yes, use both. There are times when I use the track to zoom in out with finger gestures. Both Apple products.

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It can't be an issue external do OS X since, with the same settings, apps, environment, router and Magic Mouse the issue exists on Yosemite and not on Mavericks. Now it seems it's affecting people who didn't have the issue on 10.10.2 and lower and have it on 10.10.3.

It is possible that an application or driver could have an incompatibility with Yosemite that it does not have under Mavericks.

I see many people posting with same year computers and hardware where one posts they have no lag issues where others report having lag issues. A possible difference is the software or driver installed.
 
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dastinger

macrumors 6502a
Mar 18, 2012
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Right but most probably a driver issue since it still happens on safe mode and that is not on the user's side.
 
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