If you ignore the ceramic or liquid metal back like rumored. And ignore the processor is twice as fast as the SII while using 20% less power then I completely agree with you.
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If you ignore the ceramic or liquid metal back like rumored. And ignore the processor is twice as fast as the SII while using 20% less power then I completely agree with you.
If you ignore the ceramic or liquid metal back like rumored. And ignore the processor is twice as fast as the SII while using 20% less power then I completely agree with you.
You ignore the idea that the GSIII will be the S4 krait, in the US that is.
Maybe your not from the US, then I apologize.
DANG IT!! Me too
How has Apple fallen behind Samsung? Judging by what? That Samsung can put a fast CPU and a good screen on a huge phone? Again, look at the $$. Samsung has a gazillion phones on the market and can't make nearly as much money as Apple is from selling phones. And Apple sells 3 phones.
CPU's and specs are more of a reminder of the PC-era. Most consumers don't give a crap what kind of processor and memory their phone has. It's not just about the phone, it's about the whole experience. And Apple is WAY ahead in that with the App Store, iTunes Store, retail store.
And yes, I'm completely fine without LTE. I'd rather have a decent size phone that holds a decent charge than sacrifice all of that for LTE. My guess is that most consumers feel the same, otherwise the iPhone 4S would've been a FLOP.
One of the greatest non sequiturs committed on this forum, and obviously in this thread, is that high sales equals innovation.
I wasn't saying that. I was merely saying that Apple is doing pretty well financially. So they're gonna innovate in other areas besides FAST CPU's and RAM. They innovated with the iPhone, iPad, iTunes Store, Macs, etc. Most of the others are just now catching up with Apple in those areas (IF that). So it makes sense that Apple's focus on what they think is important for their growth, which as it happens right now, has nothing to do with more RAM and bigger CPU.
True. It strange to even hear that argument.
We all know Apple charges carriers quite a bit more for the iPhone even though it's made in some of the same factories as other phones. It's not nearly as equipped with bells and whistles (NFC, LTE, notification lights, etc) whether you need/want those features or not. An OS that some argue is dated and/or too restrictive.
For me it's getting to the point like a entry level BMW or Merc. You can get a base entry model for the same price or more expensive then a much better equipped, safer, more reliable, more powerful Toyota. What you did was just bought a badge on the car.
But yet some will say well if it's more expensive it's got to be better.
Apple is brilliant with advertising and causing buzz around their products too which helps quite a bit. Half the android phones that come out don't even have advertising!
I love my iPhone but there have been plenty of times I wish I had my razr just do certain things or have an Internet connection that works (I have a LTE tablet I bring to work so I can host a hotspot for my iPhone).
I don't think your analogy works. You're basically saying that everybody who buys a BMW over a Toyota is just doing that for the badge? BMW's are very good cars. Also, people have different taste. Not to mention that Toyota and BMW have totally different strategies and visions for their cars.
Just because I choose a BMW over a Toyota doesn't mean I'm necessarily over-paying.
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Sounds like you're just aching for Android
Seriously, for me the ecosystem and user interface are unmatched by android. Consistent UI with iPad, I don't have to worry about getting malware thru an app that i download, etc. But if you really want a bigger screen and Flash, go for it! It all comes down to your needs.
I don't think your analogy works. You're basically saying that everybody who buys a BMW over a Toyota is just doing that for the badge? BMW's are very good cars. Also, people have different taste. Not to mention that Toyota and BMW have totally different strategies and visions for their cars.
Just because I choose a BMW over a Toyota doesn't mean I'm necessarily over-paying.
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Sounds like you're just aching for Android
Seriously, for me the ecosystem and user interface are unmatched by android. Consistent UI with iPad, I don't have to worry about getting malware thru an app that i download, etc. But if you really want a bigger screen and Flash, go for it! It all comes down to your needs.
No! Lol not saying that (I used to own a e46 m3). I said entry level. You've met these people in real life I'm sure. They will brag about their BMW how it's this and that they probably even have a t-shirt. But when you see it it's a 128i with steal wheels and a pin strip. Although there was much more value in other cars they paid a premium for a BMW badge.
I used to get all excited about the hardware specs, dual core, quad, etc...
Now I've realized that it does not matter how powerful a phone is, the Android experience is still sub-par. Android wastes all that power. I've tried HTC One X, it still is very much an Android experience... laggy.
Throwing more horse power does not fix the problem of Android... so it beats every phone in benchmarks, who cares? What really matters is the real life user experience, and in that I'd rather take a 3GS than a Galaxy S II.
Finally judging by the leaks Galaxy S III specs don't impress, it's the same old CPU architecture, and the same old GPU, with the same amount of RAM. One thing I'm interested in is the camera, I hope they just didn't slap more megapixels in there and did some actual work to improve it.
As for the new iPhone, all I want from Apple is 1GB RAM, 2MP front camera and an improved rear camera, the current one is great but camera is one area where I always want improvement. CPU/GPU can remain the same for all I care, hell even the shape can remain the same.
This isn't really a good comparison. First, LTE isn't really anywhere else outside of the US. For everyone outside of the US (yes, they are people too) LTE compatibility isn't even on their radar for making a bit of a difference. Even while I write this, we really don't have that much LTE coverage in the US. A better comparison would be looking at an LTE saturated market and comparing how well iPhone sales are doing there compared to LTE devices.
"There has yet to be an Android phone released that beats the iPhone 4S in any CPU/GPU benchmark."
I say it so much it should be my motto
Even the HTX One X doesn't beat the 6+ month old iPhone. I'm waiting to see how the Galaxy S III does to see if I am finally going to be forced to retire my motto
"There has yet to be an Android phone released that beats the iPhone 4S in any CPU/GPU benchmark."
I say it so much it should be my motto
Even the HTX One X doesn't beat the 6+ month old iPhone. I'm waiting to see how the Galaxy S III does to see if I am finally going to be forced to retire my motto
They don't necessarily need higher benchmarks than the 4S to be good. HTC's phones seem prone to lag though. Samsung did a great job with the S2. I think if you're wanting a smooth experience, it's pretty much set that the GSIII will deliver. Prepare your wallet!
Not sure what Mac's you are using, but my iMac and MBP din't use the same RAM chips as my HP PC? I'm also not sure where you got the idea that any PC manufacturer besides Apple utilize the same type of Trackpad. Sure a few companies like Logitech have put out crappy looking plastic clones, but nothing even close to the real thing.
As for the iPhone and iPad on iOS. If you think people don't care about RAM, then you haven't seen the difference between the iPad1 and iPad3. Enjoy have apps constantly close on you on the original iPad, due to lack of RAM? Many people may not know what RAM is, but they have seen the consequences of having to little.Having more RAM is becoming critical!
CPU and GPU are important, but not as important as being designed for a specific piece of hardware, a la iPhone. Android compensates for shoving a simple OS into many pieces of hardwae and then dealing with several UI's placed on top. More CPU cores, more RAM, more battery, more everything is the only solution they have, hence internal hardware is detrimental to the success of Android. But it's up to each Android based phone manufacturer to out do each other and keep pushing the envelope.
And your comment about Android having malware, trojans, viruses or what have you is the go to line for the Apple loving crowd to slap in the face of the iHaters. It is true that an Android phone can download such things, BECAUSE it is an open platform, allowing people to download apk files from any shady place on the internet. And if you think the app store is safer, because it's Apple, you may want to check the news from this past month and end of last year. App store isn't quite as safe as you think. However, with proper planning, both OS's can avoid those bad files from ever getting on your phone or if they do, being able to backup to a previous saved version.
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Mine is prepared. I'm getting one unlocked straight from Samsung, if possible. I'll sell my Skyrocket, because I really want the SIII! This is the first Android phone I am actually excited about.
Samsung are now the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, so they must be doing something right.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17865117
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17865117
you and many others say this because you haven't experienced LTE. I was just up in San Francisco and my Glaxy SII Skyrocket was getting download speeds of 16mps and upload speeds of 12! That's nearly as good as a home wifi network!!! Hell, I even had LTE on Alcatraz.
Now I am back home and relegated to a crappy HSPA network that I would barely call 3G.
Once Apple consumers get a taste of LTE on the iPhone 5, you will see the whole attitude change and I anticipate with Apple's participation in the phone market, more LTE capable cities will pop up quickly.
I don't think the AppStore is safer because it's Apple. I think it's safer because it's safer.
I just read an article about Android Malware saying that the amount of money stolen from Android users from Malware (like sending secret SMS messages to premium numbers costing $10 a message) was in the millions last year. Apparently the number of Malware attacks on Android is accelerating.
There are 0 malware/viruses in the wild for iOS right now, and outside of jailbroken devices there have never been any malware/virus outbreaks on any iOS device.
The AppStore is exactly as safe as I think it is.
Biggest mobile phone producer and biggest smartphone seller are not one in the same. Selling dumbphones and cheap hybrid phones for a few penny's to 3rd world contries may give you the title of worlds largest mobile phone vender, but it doesn't put much money in the bank. Apple has the largest piece of that pie and that is the one that really matters. Also, I do believe Apple is the current largest smartphone vendor in the world? (I could be wrong?)
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Yep, and Mac users have thought the same way for years. I thought the same way. Then this little piece of code called Flashback got into my iMac, along with 600,000 other Mac's. My MBP was prepared and had proper security in place, but not my iMac.
Anyway, that is just an example. But I can tell you that if you only download apps from Google Play you are pretty safe. If you have an auto virus, trojan and malware check of each file you download, then you can be pretty confident your phone is safe. This goes for both iOS and Android. You can laugh at the notion that you would need a virus scanner on an iPhone, but you won't be laughing the day it happens. Hell, a coder panted an app in the app store that had either malware or a virus installed in it. He told Apple how easy it was too do and all Apple did was pull the app. But they wouldn't have, unless he told them about it. That can very easily happen again.
Not this quarter.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-as-no-1-smartphone-maker-in-1st-quarter.html
I don't understand why people insist on belittling the supply of handsets to the third world. Getting some of the poorest people into the modern age with even a "dumb phone" could have a positive effect to many people less fortunate than us.
For clarification, That wasn't a dig at you Om3ga but it has been a growing trend with people downplaying the supply of tech to the third world
I have had great experiences with the Galaxy series. I will buy an unlocked SGS III when released, from a distributor I've bought lots of smartphones from in Hong Kong.
OEM versions are my preference. It allows me to update the OS far sooner than waiting for it to be customized for AT&T. In addition, the speed & response time are the best of all. Surprisingly my OEM SGSII is a bit faster than my new Nexus.
It will he very interesting to see what the final configuration will be.
OEM versions are my preference. It allows me to update the OS far sooner than waiting for it to be customized for AT&T. In addition, the speed & response time are the best of all. Surprisingly my OEM SGSII is a bit faster than my new Nexus.
It will he very interesting to see what the final configuration will be.
I didn't suggest mobile phone and smartphone production were the same thing. I said Samsung are the largest mobile phone producer in the world. Which they are.
Samsung's profits have risen 81%, so it clearly does put 'money in the bank'. Admittedly not as much as Apple, but I stick to my point that they must be doing something right.
Looks like the Galaxy note was the difference maker this quarter. And the Galaxy SIII coming out in May and no new iphone until Q3, means Samsung will remain in the lead for biggest smartphone vendor over the next two quarters.
And when I reference the third world, there is no malace towards the people. It's not their,fault.
Hmm... I had to call AT&T about 90$ worth of premium numbers last month, spread across 4 iPhones (none jailbroken). You called these malware in your post, so apparently there are at least 9 malware cases just on my AT&T bill alone. I'm not sure if these actually count as malware though, as I know nothing about this topic. Just saying, to think any there are no viruses/malware for any OS is very dangerous imo. Many people said Macs were impervious to these exact things and in the end it just makes you an easier target. Don't think for one second your safe just because your on iOS.