Phones Your thoughts on the Galaxy S III

[lordofthereef]

Give it up with the mouth buddy.

For millions upon millions of people the iPhone does just work. If you don't get that you're showcasing your ignorance. So why don't you take your iPhone trash talking and calling forum members here all sheep to an android forum and have a nice day.

I think the idea here is when many iPhone users say their phone "just works" it is meant as a derogatory statement against the competition. I would say that for millions upon millions of Android users, Android "just works" as well, at least if we are going to look at sales figures as evidence. I better argument would be that specific OS's seem to simply work better depending on your needs. No OS "just works" (especially when comparing it to another OS) for 100% of its users.

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If you get those charges on a line that is an iPhone it's cause the carrier screwed up. If you get those charges on a line you have an android device on its cause of malware. Or at least thats the general consensus around here.

That was where my gut was leading me, but will always admit when I am wrong. I am legitimately wondering about this malware people are speaking of. Unfortunately, try as I might, no articles I find make direct statements on where these malware ridden apps are coming from (that being Google Play or some other place).

 

[chakraj]

I think just works is for the folks out there who don't like to fiddle with stuff. I on the other hand can't leave anything alone. I have to tweak it or make it faster or lower or higher or quicker..... Whatever. To me there is no derogatory connotation when someone says it just works. They are just not a techy like me.

So in other words it's easier for the dumb people

 

[cynics]

I think just works is for the folks out there who don't like to fiddle with stuff. I on the other hand can't leave anything alone. I have to tweak it or make it faster or lower or higher or quicker..... Whatever. To me there is no derogatory connotation when someone says it just works. They are just not a techy like me.

So in other words it's easier for the dumb people

Just works is more of an insult to the phone IMO. JUST works, no more no less.

I recommend the iPhone to people all the time but I hate to say it it's too people that I know will be frustrated by android. Like my mother and step father, they can't figure out the inputs on a tv. They love it.

Most, not all of my techy friends have android for very specific reasons. Hdmi out, or USB hosting things like that.

Just tonight I a friend girl of mine was asking if she should get an iPhone even though she loves her droid 2. I knew she was into photography and showed her some pics my 4s took. She was blown away and tomorrow I'm meeting her at the apple store.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Timzer]

Just works is more of an insult to the phone IMO. JUST works, no more no less.

I recommend the iPhone to people all the time but I hate to say it it's too people that I know will be frustrated by android. Like my mother and step father, they can't figure out the inputs on a tv. They love it.

Most, not all of my techy friends have android for very specific reasons. Hdmi out, or USB hosting things like that.

Just tonight I a friend girl of mine was asking if she should get an iPhone even though she loves her droid 2. I knew she was into photography and showed her some pics my 4s took. She was blown away and tomorrow I'm meeting her at the apple store.

Different strokes for different folks.

The quality of the Sony camera is blown way out of proportion. Apple folk talk as if it's soooo much better than anything out there, when its completely false. You have some reviews that pick the GS2's camera over the iphone. And almost with all the reviews out there, each camera barely edges out the other one. So let's keep it real please.

 

[cynics]

The quality of the Sony camera is blown way out of proportion. Apple folk talk as if it's soooo much better than anything out there, when its completely false. You have some reviews that pick the GS2's camera over the iphone. And almost with all the reviews out there, each camera barely edges out the other one. So let's keep it real please.

S2 screen is way too over saturated for someone thats into photography. 4S is a better choice. The average shooter may prefer the S2 which is fine but the pic doesn't represent the final product. That is real. I owned both and know photography. I'm not just giving mindless advise.

I will concede the camera software is better with white balance and other functionality but she is more artsy then technical.

Edit: I also played with her droid and she wasnt/didnt use any of the functions that make me like android. So why bother. If you are going to basically simulate an iPhone you might as well own one.

 

[onthecouchagain]

My issue with the whole "it just works" statement is that it's Apple propaganda that is ceaselessly reiterated, and usually reiterated without real context or knowledge. Kudos to Apple's marketing, but saying that phrase reeks of intellectual dishonesty and ignorance (not just Android ignorance, but iOS ignorance too. It's possible to be an Apple/iPhone fan, and be ignorant of the device and OS).

Those who have given both iOS and Android a chance will speak very candidly about what works, and what doesn't work -- on both platforms. No one who knows what they're talking about ever says "it just works" when there are so many things about iOS that clearly don't "just work."

Again, need I point out all the "Damn You iPhone Autocorrection" websites that exist? Or the tons of threads complaining about a myriad of issues, or threads calling and wishing for improvements to various things (Safari, Mail, Notification Center, etc.)? I'm not saying Android doesn't have issues too, but no one goes around touting "Android just works," and no one who wants to have an honest conversation about iOS should either.

The people who carelessly repeat that "it just works" don't realize their intellectual dishonesty is actually doing Apple and fellow fans disservice by pretending iOS is something that it isn't; perfect.

 

[Timzer]

S2 screen is way too over saturated for someone thats into photography. 4S is a better choice. The average shooter may prefer the S2 which is fine but the pic doesn't represent the final product. That is real. I owned both and know photography. I'm not just giving mindless advise.

I will concede the camera software is better with white balance and other functionality but she is more artsy then technical.

Oh, and there's the obligatory "I know photography" or "I'm into photography" or "I'm a photographer" qualifier line. Again, Sony's got great cameras, but this is a cellphone. It's really not that amazingly different from other high end cellphone cameras out there. Sorry, try all you like. But anyone that talks like they are serious about photography and then refers to their cellphone is blowing hot air. Especially when talking about color accuracy on a tiny little 3.5 inch LG Screen. Really? Is color accuracy so important because your doing all your after shot processing on that tiny little screen. Please, let's keep it within perspective.

 

[MadMitch89]

Oh, and there's the obligatory "I know photography" or "I'm into photography" or "I'm a photographer" qualifier line. Again, Sony's got great cameras, but this is a cellphone. It's really not that amazingly different from other high end cellphone cameras out there. Sorry, try all you like. But anyone that talks like they are serious about photography and then refers to their cellphone is blowing hot air. Especially when talking about color accuracy on a tiny little 3.5 inch LG Screen. Really? Is color accuracy so important because your doing all your after shot processing on that tiny little screen. Please, let's keep it within perspective.

Glad someone said this. Anyone gliding around on their high horse saying the iPhone 4S is the serious photographers choice is an absolute crank. A DSRL camera is the a serious photographers choice.

 

[jeffe]

Some really good points have been made here. Setting up IOS, along with Itunes can be very confusing for someone who had never used Itunes....more so than using Android for someone who is already heavily integrated with Google.

 

[DanteMann]

Oh, and there's the obligatory "I know photography" or "I'm into photography" or "I'm a photographer" qualifier line. Again, Sony's got great cameras, but this is a cellphone. It's really not that amazingly different from other high end cellphone cameras out there. Sorry, try all you like. But anyone that talks like they are serious about photography and then refers to their cellphone is blowing hot air. Especially when talking about color accuracy on a tiny little 3.5 inch LG Screen. Really? Is color accuracy so important because your doing all your after shot processing on that tiny little screen. Please, let's keep it within perspective.

THIS! Could not have said this better.

 

[hot spare]

Oh, and there's the obligatory "I know photography" or "I'm into photography" or "I'm a photographer" qualifier line. Again, Sony's got great cameras, but this is a cellphone. It's really not that amazingly different from other high end cellphone cameras out there. Sorry, try all you like. But anyone that talks like they are serious about photography and then refers to their cellphone is blowing hot air. Especially when talking about color accuracy on a tiny little 3.5 inch LG Screen. Really? Is color accuracy so important because your doing all your after shot processing on that tiny little screen. Please, let's keep it within perspective.

^^

 

[cynics]

Oh, and there's the obligatory "I know photography" or "I'm into photography" or "I'm a photographer" qualifier line. Again, Sony's got great cameras, but this is a cellphone. It's really not that amazingly different from other high end cellphone cameras out there. Sorry, try all you like. But anyone that talks like they are serious about photography and then refers to their cellphone is blowing hot air. Especially when talking about color accuracy on a tiny little 3.5 inch LG Screen. Really? Is color accuracy so important because your doing all your after shot processing on that tiny little screen. Please, let's keep it within perspective.

Your initial argument is some reviews say the S2 takes better pictures...what is that? Woooow so me agreeing with what MOST reviewers like is wrong?

If your only processing is going to be on a 3.5" screen what do you think is more important then accurate picture representation?

I said she is into photography, not a photographer. I don't know why you are on my case about this. If YOU prefer the S2's camera great! I don't give a ****. I'd suggest you do the same for my opinion too.

I apologize if your opinions vary from mine. I don't really appreciate you ignoring most of my post why an iPhone would work for her and cutting little snippets out but I'm not going to continue this pointless and growing more immature discussion.

 

[FeaRThiS]

Should be a good phone just hope it doesn't feel cheap and tatty like the s2

 

[cynics]

Glad someone said this. Anyone gliding around on their high horse saying the iPhone 4S is the serious photographers choice is an absolute crank. A DSRL camera is the a serious photographers choice.

Yep, I said that didn't I? You certainly didn't imagine that!

"She's into photography" = Me gliding in here on my high horse saying the 4S is for seriour photographers?

At least edit my post in a quote so I have some idea what you are talking about.

 

[ajvizzgamer101]

Troll much?

I know right?

 

[lordofthereef]

I think just works is for the folks out there who don't like to fiddle with stuff. I on the other hand can't leave anything alone. I have to tweak it or make it faster or lower or higher or quicker..... Whatever. To me there is no derogatory connotation when someone says it just works. They are just not a techy like me.

So in other words it's easier for the dumb people

Do you fail to see the derogatory nature of that statement too?

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Oh, and there's the obligatory "I know photography" or "I'm into photography" or "I'm a photographer" qualifier line. Again, Sony's got great cameras, but this is a cellphone. It's really not that amazingly different from other high end cellphone cameras out there. Sorry, try all you like. But anyone that talks like they are serious about photography and then refers to their cellphone is blowing hot air. Especially when talking about color accuracy on a tiny little 3.5 inch LG Screen. Really? Is color accuracy so important because your doing all your after shot processing on that tiny little screen. Please, let's keep it within perspective.

Well, I actually do know a photographer that praises the iPhone for all of the things you mention (and no, it's not me, I am terrible, horrible, god awful at taking pics). He finds it takes exceptionally good pictures, considering the device that it is. Color accuracy is pretty important if you are able to look at the big picture. The vast majority of users don't do a damn bit of post processing. For that reason, the camera really is very good for most situations. I certainly don't think we need the "I know photography" qualifier in there, but when a professional photographer praises a camera on a phone, he/she isn't comparing it to their DSLR that cost 10x what the phone itself did and takes pictures in the raw format that would fill up the iPhones storage capacity in a couple dozen shots.

 

[DanteMann]

And now to spice things up even more, it's rumored that the SGS3 will be the basis for a WP8 device in the fall. Not surprising as the SGS2 became the Focus S for WP7.
SGS3 specs for a WP8 is extremely exciting. My plans have always been to get a WP8 in the fall, and this will be the device. I don't mind having a SGS3 and it's equivalent on WP8.

 

[DodgeV83]

Do you fail to see the derogatory nature of that statement too?

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Well, I actually do know a photographer that praises the iPhone for all of the things you mention (and no, it's not me, I am terrible, horrible, god awful at taking pics). He finds it takes exceptionally good pictures, considering the device that it is. Color accuracy is pretty important if you are able to look at the big picture. The vast majority of users don't do a damn bit of post processing. For that reason, the camera really is very good for most situations. I certainly don't think we need the "I know photography" qualifier in there, but when a professional photographer praises a camera on a phone, he/she isn't comparing it to their DSLR that cost 10x what the phone itself did and takes pictures in the raw format that would fill up the iPhones storage capacity in a couple dozen shots.

As someone who has done professional photography for years, and still has thousands of dollars in cameras and lenses, I still prefer my iPhone 4S 90% of the time, when I'm doing anything that I'm not being paid to do. I wouldn't have said this before I tried out all the apps, so I can see how someone would be skeptical. I used to be the same way

 

[DanteMann]

As someone who has done professional photography for years, and still has thousands of dollars in cameras and lenses, I still prefer my iPhone 4S 90% of the time, when I'm doing anything that I'm not being paid to do. I wouldn't have said this before I tried out all the apps, so I can see how someone would be skeptical. I used to be the same way

Then you should have no problem using any of the highend smartphones 90% of the time. Timzer was pointing out how some professional reviews preferred the camera in the SGS2 over the 4s and vise versa. Again, the point people here are making is that the iPhone camera isn't ridiculously better than any other smartphone camera. So to make it sound like it is, is just ridiculous. Honestly, I think this is why there is no sheep like Apple Sheep. (not saying YOU are, just sayin')

 

[lordofthereef]

Then you should have no problem using any of the highend smartphones 90% of the time.

Here are the phones I (a self proclaimed god awful photographer) have used in the last year: iPhone 4S, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy S II, HTC EVO 3D, Droid Razer Maxx, Nokia Lunia 900.

None of the pics I took were as good, on average, as the 4S. I am just coming from the viewpoint of a person who doesn't know what he is doing; I point, I shoot, and that is photography to me. I will say I am excited to try the HTC ONE X camera. By virtually all accounts, that thing is amazing.

 

[chambone]

Do you fail to see the derogatory nature of that statement too?

If the ability to use tools designed by others to root or jailbreak a device, and to install software designed by others makes someone feel 'techy', all bets are off I guess.

 

[DanteMann]

None of the pics I took were as good, on average, as the 4S.

Ok so let's try this again. Nobody is saying it's not possible for one to prefer the Sony camera in the 4S over other smartphone cameras. What is being said is that the degree of which it is better than the others is so greatly exaggerated by those who prefer the 4S. You just don't see users of any other smartphone brand going on about the camera in their phones being preferred over their DSLRs. Or even give the impression that it can even be compared to a DSLR. And nobody here in this forum may have come out and said the Sony Camera in the 4S is better better than a DSLR, but they sure give the impression that it is or that it's a close match. And the fact is, even the pros are not unanimous in what smartphone has the best camera, but one thing is for sure, they are all nowhere near a DSLR or the best point and shoots. So let's not even talk like they are.
So knowing that all high end smartphones have very similar quality picture taking ability, how can one go on about the camera in their phone like it's head and shoulders above any other smartphone out there? It's just not the case. And it's rather embarrassing should one do so.

 

[DodgeV83]

Then you should have no problem using any of the highend smartphones 90% of the time. Timzer was pointing out how some professional reviews preferred the camera in the SGS2 over the 4s and vise versa. Again, the point people here are making is that the iPhone camera isn't ridiculously better than any other smartphone camera. So to make it sound like it is, is just ridiculous. Honestly, I think this is why there is no sheep like Apple Sheep. (not saying YOU are, just sayin')

The thing is though, I honestly believe the iPhone 4S is much better for photography than any other phone, mostly because of the apps and creativity it offers. I've shown people photos, tricking them into thinking they were taken with my DSLR, only to see the shock on their face when I told them it really was my iPhone

Here's an example of what's possible with under a minute of editing in some very simple iPhone apps:

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Checkout iPhoneography.com's weekly contest for more examples:

http://www.iphoneography.com/journal/tag/through-the-lens-of-an-iphone

 

[hot spare]

I see that the discussion has moved towards photography. I see many names thrown around. Did anyone in this discussion tried Nokia N8? IMO, it still is the best phone for photography. I am just talking camera perspective (not OS or apps). It was launched way before SGS2 or iPhone4S. But it still beats them in terms of detail and accuracy. Check google if you don't believe me.

 

[reefoid]

The thing is though, I honestly believe the iPhone 4S is much better for photography than any other phone, mostly because of the apps and creativity it offers. I've shown people photos, tricking them into thinking they were taken with my DSLR, only to see the shock on their face when I told them it really was my iPhone

Bringing apps into it is pointless. Any processing you can do with an app on iOS can also be done on Android so I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.