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BiggAW

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Jun 19, 2010
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Don't care. I had the SGS I. Not a huge fan of Sammy. I'm going to get a Gnex for development and travel, but that's pure Google, none of the TW crap.
 

bad03xtreme

macrumors 6502a
Jul 16, 2009
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Northern, VA
For someone that has never had a smartphone what would be my best option an iPhone 4S or the new GS3? I planned on getting a smartphone in the next month or so but I have never used either so I have no preferences, however I am a Mac user. How does the music work on an Android phone work, can I import all of my music from iTunes onto an Android phone with no issues?

I am with Verizon that is why I say between these two because the HTC OneX caught my eye but it's not available on Verizon.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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For someone that has never had a smartphone what would be my best option an iPhone 4S or the new GS3? I planned on getting a smartphone in the next month or so but I have never used either so I have no preferences, however I am a Mac user. How does the music work on an Android phone work, can I import all of my music from iTunes onto an Android phone with no issues?

I am with Verizon that is why I say between these two because the HTC OneX caught my eye but it's not available on Verizon.

Tough call I'd say if you are in apples Eco system the an iPhone will work nicely however android phones still work.

But on the same note I wouldn't recommend a current Verizon iPhone due to their slow 3G network. That's what I have and in my area it's pretty bad.
 

BiggAW

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Jun 19, 2010
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Connecticut
For someone that has never had a smartphone what would be my best option an iPhone 4S or the new GS3? I planned on getting a smartphone in the next month or so but I have never used either so I have no preferences, however I am a Mac user. How does the music work on an Android phone work, can I import all of my music from iTunes onto an Android phone with no issues?

I am with Verizon that is why I say between these two because the HTC OneX caught my eye but it's not available on Verizon.

Wait for the iPhone with LTE, or get a DROID RAZR MAXX. There are ways to sync music, but they're not nearly as good as native iTunes sync.
 

Wrathwitch

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Dec 4, 2009
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Debunked! My earlier post of the SIII leak is debunked as a fake.

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I want to laugh at everyone who says the iPhone "just works."

And people wonder where the term "sheep" comes from.

In my defence you have to determine what Just Works means to each individual person. For me, JUST WORKS means that when I pick it up and press a button, it comes on. Doesn't freeze or stay dog locked in the middle of the night when you push the button to check the time.

There has maybe been 3x that I have had to "restart" it because I was having difficulty getting a call or my screen wouldn't rotate or send out my texts. That was perhaps 3x in 2 years of owning the phone.

So for me, "it Just works" means that it is a piece of tech that I can rely on when I most need it to.

Not Baaaaaaad if you ask me.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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In my defence you have to determine what Just Works means to each individual person. For me, JUST WORKS means that when I pick it up and press a button, it comes on. Doesn't freeze or stay dog locked in the middle of the night when you push the button to check the time.

So for me, "it Just works" means that it is a piece of tech that I can rely on when I most need it to.

Not Baaaaaaad if you ask me.

By this definition, many many things, including Android/Windows devices, "just work."

Also this from earlier in the thread (not necessarily directed at you, Wrathwitch):

"My issue with the whole "it just works" statement is that it's Apple propaganda that is ceaselessly reiterated, and usually reiterated without real context or knowledge. Kudos to Apple's marketing, but saying that phrase reeks of intellectual dishonesty and ignorance (not just Android ignorance, but iOS ignorance too. It's possible to be an Apple/iPhone fan, and be ignorant of the device and OS).

Those who have given both iOS and Android a chance will speak very candidly about what works, and what doesn't work -- on both platforms. No one who knows what they're talking about ever says "it just works" when there are so many things about iOS that clearly don't "just work."

Again, need I point out all the "Damn You iPhone Autocorrection" websites that exist? Or the tons of threads complaining about a myriad of issues, or threads calling and wishing for improvements to various things (Safari, Mail, Notification Center, etc.)? I'm not saying Android doesn't have issues too, but no one goes around touting "Android just works," and no one who wants to have an honest conversation about iOS should either.

The people who carelessly repeat that "it just works" don't realize their intellectual dishonesty is actually doing Apple and fellow fans disservice by pretending iOS is something that it isn't; perfect."
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
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Lincoln, England
"it just works" is very clever marketing by Apple, and for the most part I'd say it's true, but there are definitely things that don't just work, such as downloading files from the Internet and watching flash videos.

There are also some weird decisions made that are very counter intuitive. For example, why can't I attach files to an email from the compose screen, why must I go to photos first? Either way should work. No lie, but in the past I've gone and typed out an entire email, realised I can't attach a photo, copied the message, gone into photos, chose send by email, and pasted the message into the new email. That is NOT just working, that is a crazy obstruction to perform a simple task.

Neither of the two platforms are perfect or "just work" in all areas.
 

SurferMan

macrumors 65816
May 14, 2010
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South FL
By this definition, many many things, including Android/Windows devices, "just work."

Also this from earlier in the thread (not necessarily directed at you, Wrathwitch):

"My issue with the whole "it just works" statement is that it's Apple propaganda that is ceaselessly reiterated, and usually reiterated without real context or knowledge. Kudos to Apple's marketing, but saying that phrase reeks of intellectual dishonesty and ignorance (not just Android ignorance, but iOS ignorance too. It's possible to be an Apple/iPhone fan, and be ignorant of the device and OS).

Those who have given both iOS and Android a chance will speak very candidly about what works, and what doesn't work -- on both platforms. No one who knows what they're talking about ever says "it just works" when there are so many things about iOS that clearly don't "just work."

Again, need I point out all the "Damn You iPhone Autocorrection" websites that exist? Or the tons of threads complaining about a myriad of issues, or threads calling and wishing for improvements to various things (Safari, Mail, Notification Center, etc.)? I'm not saying Android doesn't have issues too, but no one goes around touting "Android just works," and no one who wants to have an honest conversation about iOS should either.

The people who carelessly repeat that "it just works" don't realize their intellectual dishonesty is actually doing Apple and fellow fans disservice by pretending iOS is something that it isn't; perfect."
Never understood the whole "it works" jargon, just brainwashing bs. I've had iPhones, a lot, over the years, primary phone, business, for employees etc. But also owned others. Had more problems with iPhones then any other phone, even the 4S which we've already had to get replaced. Heck I had the Cingular 8525 windows phone at the time the iPhone came out, no problems really with that phone either. Still have it actually in a drawer lol. Turned it on the other day, man does it really make you realize how tech has progressed in these last 5 or so years LOL. Plus I've never like iTunes, so much easier mounting the GSII and transferring music and whatever else I want to the files "I want" quickly, vs dealing with iTunes and it's quirks.
 

Yumunum

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Apr 24, 2011
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According to the email Samsung sent me about tomorrow's event, it's going to "change the way you see your world" haha...

Anyways, not very long of a wait now!
 

radiohead14

macrumors 6502a
Nov 6, 2008
873
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nyc
their teaser reminds me of Mass Effect 3

"I am Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite smartphone!"

I'm really hoping this phone is as good as it's been hyped up to be, but I'm sure it'll still disappoint some. If it comes to VZW, has a great camera and battery life.. then this might be my new phone.

by the way.. 12 pages about Samsung, and no input from LTD yet? :confused:
 

chakraj

macrumors 65816
Feb 6, 2008
1,285
10
So Cal
Do you fail to see the derogatory nature of that statement too? :confused:

Its actually correct to say "Do you fail to see the derogatory nature of that statement also?"

No, if you couldn't tell, it was a derogatory statement, I was just giving the loyalists a little jab. Nothing serious, just a little poke in the ego. :D

Sometimes its fun to rattle the cage.
 

BiggAW

macrumors 68030
Jun 19, 2010
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Connecticut
When is the LTE iPhone, not until Nov. right, that seems like a long wait. Why the RAZR MAXX over the GS3?

Most likely September. Possibly earlier, but probably not. The RAZR MAXX is a Motorola Device, on Verizon's 4G LTE network, with a battery that lasts more than all day. Pretty much everything anyone would ever want for Android or Verizon.
 

DodgeV83

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2012
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The fact that you're doing all this on a cramped little 3.5" screen negates your whole argument IMHO. Why would you even bother? Fire up your mac/pc and do it the right way.

The argument is not that the PC is better, the argument is that iOS can, and Android cannot. If you are of the opinion that no one would want to do that on a phone anyway, then you are implicitly submitting to my argument.

I would love to debts the merits of, "Yes Android can't do it, but I don't want to anyway."

But I'm not ready to switch topics until at least one person either admits that Android can't do it, or proves me wrong.
 

BiggAW

macrumors 68030
Jun 19, 2010
2,563
176
Connecticut
The argument is not that the PC is better, the argument is that iOS can, and Android cannot. If you are of the opinion that no one would want to do that on a phone anyway, then you are implicitly submitting to my argument.

I would love to debts the merits of, "Yes Android can't do it, but I don't want to anyway."

But I'm not ready to switch topics until at least one person either admits that Android can't do it, or proves me wrong.

Yes, the iPhone has the best camera right now, but people were doing iPhone photography back when the camera was 1/10th as good as today's Android phones, so that point is moot.

As for apps, they're just apps, that's an app issue, not a fundamental platform issues. Also, editing photos on a phone is going to be very limited compared to what you can do on a PC/Mac.
 

DodgeV83

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2012
879
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Yes, the iPhone has the best camera right now, but people were doing iPhone photography back when the camera was 1/10th as good as today's Android phones, so that point is moot.

It would be a moot point to say I bought something that's the best right now, because the version 5 years older than my current device is less impressive than the current competition?

By that same logic, if I bought an Intel chip for my next laptop, and told an AMD salesman that my chip is faster than anything his company has ever produced, it would make sense for his counter-point to be:

"People were using laptops back when their CPUs were 1/10th that of the current AMD."

Wihile your point is true, you also seem to agree that if someone were buying a smartphone today and wanted the best camera, they would have to choose the iPhone 4S. That's what people are arguing here, not how current technology compares to older technology.
 

therationalist

macrumors regular
Jul 8, 2011
124
16
The argument is not that the PC is better, the argument is that iOS can, and Android cannot. If you are of the opinion that no one would want to do that on a phone anyway, then you are implicitly submitting to my argument.

I would love to debts the merits of, "Yes Android can't do it, but I don't want to anyway."

But I'm not ready to switch topics until at least one person either admits that Android can't do it, or proves me wrong.

First you tell people that we cant judge photos from thumbnail photos posted on this forum YET you are photo editing on a 3.5 inch screen. Surely, you have to be trolling.
 

ixodes

macrumors 601
Jan 11, 2012
4,429
3
Pacific Coast, USA
Tomorrows announcement / release of the SGS III will be interesting indeed. My SGS II has been a terrific, complimentary smartphone to my iPhone 4S.

Therefore I will be buying the III immediately. I'm glad that the next iPhone isn't likely to be ready till sometime late in the year. It will allow me a few months with the new Galaxy before I pre-order Apples next release.

The upcoming iPhone may set the tone, revealing what Apple will be selling for the next two years.
 

therationalist

macrumors regular
Jul 8, 2011
124
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Almost pulled the plunge on htc one x today but wanted to wait for the s3 and see what it offers.

Any ideas when it might actually go on sale?

Friend offered me £550 for my ip4s 16GB which is higher than what apple charge but he wants all my apps and customizations LOLZ.
 

ixodes

macrumors 601
Jan 11, 2012
4,429
3
Pacific Coast, USA
The HTC One X is a truly excellent model. I believe the SGS III will be it's closest competitor. It may all boil down to personal preference.

Current competitive pressure will make the gap between these two premium Android smartphones, very minimal. Having used ICS for nearly two months now, I'm quite impressed.

Now, if Apple has the courage to include a similar sized display (4.5"- 4.7") & a touch sensitive home button, then it will be a three way competition.

As I've always maintained, nothing beats choices :)
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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It might come down to TouchWiz vs. Sense between the HTC One X and the SIII. I can't imagine the SIII specs to be that much better than the One X.

Design might be a factor too, though. Not very happy about the physical home button. I thought the idea of ICS was to get rid of front buttons... (EDIT: If the physical home button turns out to be real.) It'll be interesting to see if Samsung has finally put together a device with higher end parts.
 
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matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
The argument is not that the PC is better, the argument is that iOS can, and Android cannot. If you are of the opinion that no one would want to do that on a phone anyway, then you are implicitly submitting to my argument.

I would love to debts the merits of, "Yes Android can't do it, but I don't want to anyway."

But I'm not ready to switch topics until at least one person either admits that Android can't do it, or proves me wrong.

I'm not very good at photography or editing.

Perhaps none of those apps can do what you've done your photo, but they are still advanced photo editing apps.

The GIMP can most likely do some things that photoshop can't, but that doesn't make it better, just different.

You're deliberately setting the iPhone up to win by editing your photo on ios and then saying "well I can't do that on Android." it's hardly a fair comparison of the features of both platforms, is it? You've simply used some effects available for an app on the iPhone that may or may not be available on Android. I'm sure there are effects available on Android that aren't on ios.

Weak, weak argument. :confused:
 

WeegieMac

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Jan 29, 2008
3,274
1
Glasgow, UK
"it just works" is very clever marketing by Apple, and for the most part I'd say it's true, but there are definitely things that don't just work, such as downloading files from the Internet and watching flash videos.

There are also some weird decisions made that are very counter intuitive. For example, why can't I attach files to an email from the compose screen, why must I go to photos first? Either way should work. No lie, but in the past I've gone and typed out an entire email, realised I can't attach a photo, copied the message, gone into photos, chose send by email, and pasted the message into the new email. That is NOT just working, that is a crazy obstruction to perform a simple task.

Neither of the two platforms are perfect or "just work" in all areas.

Really? I don't miss Flash on my desktop or mobile platforms, and anyone who claims Flash is still a massive part of their web use must be stuck in the past.

It's a horrible development tool, a complete waste of resources, a pain to sit down with, and the day it disappears for good will be a great day. And it's coming.

Flash is done, when are people going to realise it's dead, never mind on it's last legs.

Sky Go uses Silverlight, which is far more reliable and less of a resource hog than Flash. YouTube welcomes more and more videos onto it's HTML 5 beta every day. On the iPhone, there are dedicated apps with far better interfaces than the Safari browser for watching video from numerous sources.

The Flash argument is dead. It's not a valid selling point or consideration in buying a device. Developers who refuse to embrace HTML 5 and continue to stick with Flash through some misguided loyalty are doing nothing but holding the industry back.
 
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