I'm not going to get into an argument over whether flash is dead or not, I'm just saying that flash videos don't work on iOS. Save your tirade for another thread.
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I'm not going to get into an argument over whether flash is dead or not, I'm just saying that flash videos don't work on iOS. Save your tirade for another thread.
Flash is not dead fyi. I constantly get emails or forwards from my parents
that constantly have either pictures or some sort of flash related coding and I get that nice little blue square on my iPhone which tells me that I have to go watch it on my iMac.....I am sure I am not alone in this. I am not arguing whether it's old tech and should be gone or that it is on it's way out, but I can tell you for myself that at least 3x + per month I get an email from friends or family that I can't fully open on my iPhone4.
Tirade? I could go on a tirade if you wish?
People act as if it's a daily occurrence that you pick up an iOS device and go, "Argh, no Flash". Which it's not.
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Flash is not dead fyi. I constantly get emails or forwards from my parents
I am sure I am not alone in this. I am not arguing whether it's old tech and should be gone or that it is on it's way out, but I can tell you for myself that at least 3x + per month I get an email from friends or family that I can't fully open on my iPhone4.
I appreciate the reply, as opposed to the one above which was as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
As I said above, I don't know many people who find themselves longing for Flash or bemoaning the lack of it on iOS. I don't use it on iOS, I don't use it on OS X, and I don't use it on Windows.
I'd be genuinely interested to see what cutting edge, must have content is only on Flash that would influence the decision to purchase an iOS device or not.
You're right, it's not a daily occurrence - for me. I'm sure it will be for some. There have been times when I've wanted to watch videos in flash format. I'm an Xbox 360 gamer and watch Halo Reach videos a lot online. They're not always playable on my iPad.
I was just saying that I named a limitation of the iOS platform. There's no need to debate whether that is a big problem or not, as it's a limitation none the less. Your post was quite irrelevant.
As many users have pointed out (on the dozens of flash threads here), flash is a defacto standard. Even though development has ceased, there are thousands of videos, ads and interactive web pages that use flash because of the tools available to web developers.
Flash isn't going to disappear for a few years, so IOS will have to keep on dealing with the limitation until then. The good part is that people who code mobile pages have stopped incorporating flash for the most part.
Anyways, the big news is that Samsung is announcing the Galaxy S III today.
I have been on the fence regarding a Galaxy Nexus (5 month old phone at this point), or waiting on the Galaxy S III. The GS3 is a more powerful device, but I don't use my phone for games.
Tethering, screen resolution, stability, and battery life are important to me. Samsung also has a history of packing the Galaxy with premium components not necessarily found in the Nexus like TV-out chips and the Wolfson DACs.
Flash isn't going to disappear for a few years, so IOS will have to keep on dealing with the limitation until then. The good part is that people who code mobile pages have stopped incorporating flash for the most part.
Anyways, the big news is that Samsung is announcing the Galaxy S III today.
I have been on the fence regarding a Galaxy Nexus (5 month old phone at this point), or waiting on the Galaxy S III. The GS3 is a more powerful device, but I don't use my phone for games.
Tethering, screen resolution, stability, and battery life are important to me. Samsung also has a history of packing the Galaxy with premium components not necessarily found in the Nexus like TV-out chips and the Wolfson DACs.
You're saying other phones can't do photography because their cameras suck, and the iPhone 4S has a good camera. You're wrong because people were doing iPhone photography on the older iPhones, which are far behind today's Android phones.
Flash isn't a big deal, but it sure debunks the whole notion of "it just works" whenever you run into it.
I visited the website of a local shopping mall. When I checked out the floor map, my iPad could not access it because iOS does not support Flash. It has happened several times that when I tried to get important information from my iPod Touch or the iPad, I could not access the info because iOS does not support Flash. Another issue is that I cannot zoom in or out while taking video from an iPhone 4S. Why buying expensive devices that cannot even do what cheaper devices can? Even I am a long term Apple user, I am aiming towards the Galaxy Note or the S III. I will see what Samsung is going to announce later today.
For all those on this thread who are considering the Galaxy SIII, why are you choosing that device over the HTC One X? The One X seems to have an incredible industrial design and the reviews have been fantastic. Unless Samsung blows it out of the water today (and based on the leaks it doesn't look like it will be anything Earth shattering), I will be going with the One X.
just one reason for me... the One X isn't available on Verizon, and the S3 is rumored to have been spotted listed within the VZW database.
I too am highly curious and I also have to laugh. (not regarding your post) but I was talking with a friend of mine and I told him that I would be HIGHLY SHOCKED if Apple did not release SOME sort of teaser regarding the next iPhone this week(form factor, not stuff like liquid metal etc) as this is the day that Samsung is releasing their much talked about device and Apple is nefarious for jumping on other company's release dates with whispers of tantalizing new things to come. But based on the comments about the one that just popped up on the main page, not everyone is impressed with this rumour.
Quite simply, I have had bad experiences with HTC and would not touch one with a 10' pole if I don't have to. But that's just MY opinon as to why I wouldn't consider it.
Fair point...though the free 25gb of Dropbox space definitely helps to alleviate this concern somewhat. It's also difficult for manufacturers to create a unibody industrial design and also provide an expandable memory slot so it's a trade-off. Same reason the iPhone doesn't have expandable memory. But 16GB for the AT&T version is kinda lame....wish it had the same 32GB as the international version.
And get what!? A Blackberry!? Almost all high end devices are, and will continue to be, larger than the current iPhone design.
Well, let me rephrase. I'd stay with the iPhone 4S. Why haven't apple used the ' high end' position they hold to have a 4'' screen previously?
I hope, and believe, they will with the iPhone 5. Most indications are that the screen size will be upped to 4". I'm assuming that the iPhone 4S will be their mid tier device and the iPhone 4 will be their low end device.
I'm not very good at photography or editing.
Perhaps none of those apps can do what you've done your photo, but they are still advanced photo editing apps.
The GIMP can most likely do some things that photoshop can't, but that doesn't make it better, just different.
You're deliberately setting the iPhone up to win by editing your photo on ios and then saying "well I can't do that on Android." it's hardly a fair comparison of the features of both platforms, is it? You've simply used some effects available for an app on the iPhone that may or may not be available on Android. I'm sure there are effects available on Android that aren't on ios.
Weak, weak argument.
That's the thing, the apps mentioned here are not advanced photo editing apps. This isn't Photoshop vs Gimp, it isn't even Photoshop vs Photoshop Elements, it's Photoshop vs MS Paint.
(Ok it's not that bad, but I couldn't think of any simple photo editors anyone would be familiar with)
They aren't in the same class.
My original statement was this:
I then gave one photo example of something I've personally done and linked to a website which highlights hundreds of the best iPhone photography shots, updated on a weekly basis. How many examples did I need to cite in order to satisfy your criteria for a weak argument vs a strong argument?
Should I go through each one of my 84 Photography apps and give a breakdown of each one?
The correct rebuttal to my statement would be, "No DodgeV83, Android apps offer the same quality of apps and creativity, or better. Look, this Android app offers something truly unique that no app on iOS can match."
Then give me examples.
Instead I got links to some of the most simplistic editing apps available, along with snarky remarks about my heart not being in it. Then someone else came in and essentially said it doesn't matter, because the PC/MAC is better than that anyway. Another responded by saying the current Android phones have better cameras than the original iPhone, and another claimed they should be allowed to judge a 200x200 pixel thumbnail on quality, because the screen on the other end of the camera used to generate the photo is 3.5 inches.
If you think I'm wrong, then show me I'm wrong. Take my original and make it into something comparable to the edited version I casually created in a minute. Show me a photo example of something truly unique on Android that I cannot replicate on iOS.
I am open to being wrong, I'd just like to have an intellectual and interesting debate about it. Am I expecting too much from this forum?
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You are making many assumptions here:
- You're assuming I don't think the previous generation iPhone cameras sucked
- You're assuming my definition of "suck" is dependent on the optics and sensor of the camera, and not the apps, which are available on older generation iPhones.
Lastly, I never said, "other phones can't do photography because their cameras suck".
I think that the argument he was trying to make is that no matter how good the photo app might be... you are still running it on a phone with a 3.5" display, touch screen and no removable media to transfer large image files back and forth properly.
No offense, but instagram and its contemporaries are kid stuff. Anyone even semi-serious about photo editing would use a desktop running a proper image editor program.
No offense, but instagram and its contemporaries are kid stuff. Anyone even semi-serious about photo editing would use a desktop running a proper image editor program.
I didn't see you post a link with more of your pictures, did you do it before I replied? I haven't read the whole thread.
Also, you're the one making the claim so it's your job to provide sufficient supporting evidence. It's not my job to disprove your half hearted claim.
This is like the people who say "prove god doesn't exist" ... That's not how it works.
Or via the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsungmobile.unpacked2012_1
Not long to go.
- No MicroSD slot
- Only an 1800mAh battery (I may be being ignorant here as I haven't looked into its' battery life much, but it seems awfully small for such a powerhouse phone)
- Locked bootloader (I know it can be unlocked)