Just to clarify, this is exactly what Apple wants you to do; struggle to decide on a phone purchase based on thier portfolio. Thanks for sharing a success story for them.
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Other Yup, returned iPhoneX and bout iPhone 7 outright.
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Wow, that's quite a load of complaints. I think that, as a matter of opinion, you might be right that the user experience is worse. Whether that's true or not is a personal choice, but in any case it's quite different.
I'd be interested in knowing how you've determined that screen burn-in is worse? Viewing angles are incontestably better on the X, though.
Overall, I agree with you that a lot of people seem to feel the need to dump on other people's phone choice out of some sort of sense of insecurity.
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At this point, unfortunately, the SE is just old. If I owned one, I'd be very happy. But buy new today? Your call, but I wouldn't, even at the very reasonable price Apple asks for the SE.
I get the impression Apple think the consumer has an easy choice. They don’t even realise the X is out of many of their users price range, well at least Tim Cook appears not to.
As an iPhone user this is the first time I’ve felt Apple is a little bit out of touch with their loyal consumers. This year has been a bit of a Marmite release to be honest.
Well said. While the iPhone X isn't out of my price range, but by releasing a phone at this price point Apple basically enlightened me on my smartphone spending. They've allowed me to realize that I spend too much money on smartphones and I'm now trying to switch from a smartphone enthusiast to a "normal user" that just upgrades when their old phone stops working instead of every 3-12 months and sometimes having multiple devices on me at a time.
Well exactly. I could afford the X myself too but it’s out of my price range for a phone. I’ve always felt I was paying a premium previously when the iPhone was around £700 but it’s got a little stupid. I can’t justify paying more for a phone than I would for a laptop, especially for two years use. It’s certainly mellowed my enthusiasm and i’ll be biting the cheaper options going forward for peace of mind.
Analysts are suggesting it’s a record year for Apple though. Early reports are suggesting the 8 Plus has been their biggest hit which I’m surprised by. Maybe the inconvenience of a massive phone is starting to outweigh the added cost of the X? I’m hoping prices come down to earth next year so we can all sample what Apple believes is the future, not just the select few.
Agreed. While the market ultimately dictates what a product is worth, I don’t believe the X is worth more than a 512GB LTE/WIFI iPad Pro 10.5. Smartphones in general have just gotten incredibly expensive, and the retailers almost expect us to fork over many hundreds of dollars to over $1000 every year, or spread it out through an inflated phone bill to essentially rent the phone for a given time. It’s gotten insane really.
Yes. The point is that if someone doesnt like the X, its not affordability and affordability only, like some users keep spouting. That assumes the X is the best phone on the market, and for some it just isn't. I can afford it no problem. I just dont think its a good phone.
Is this camera + lens 7x better than iPhone X?
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-1d-x-mark-ii-body
and
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-70-200mm-f-28l-is-ii-usm
Some would argue that it's not, while others would agree that DSLR is far better. Isn't that the very definition of subjective, why bother defining the choice of purchase of a phone as objective?
If you think X is overrated, I guess you have a business plan in front of you. Your future company can make the iPhone X competitor for $200 in the next 6 months, I will buy 100 of them from you.
Keep your eyes peeled to retailers this coming holiday season. I just saw a $200 sale (with carrier financing) on the 8's, making it ~19 a month (with c apabikitb of paying if phone because it's a 24 month payment plan, not lease).
I don’t think there is really any debate over whether a fully loaded DSLR is better than the camera on a mobile phone. No amount of clever pixel duplication is going to be a match for a professional DSLR with high quality glass. This has popped up on here a few times recently and I’m absolutely astonished people are trying to make this out as a subjective comparison.Is this camera + lens 7x better than iPhone X?
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-1d-x-mark-ii-body
and
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-70-200mm-f-28l-is-ii-usm
Some would argue that it's not, while others would agree that DSLR is far better. Isn't that the very definition of subjective, why bother defining the choice of purchase of a phone as objective?
If you think X is overrated, I guess you have a business plan in front of you. Your future company can make the iPhone X competitor for $200 in the next 6 months, I will buy 100 of them from you.
Mobile phone cameras have come on leaps and bounds in recent years and you can get some truly good results as a general point and shoot. Proper photography hasn’t quite been replaced by the Instagram generation yet. There’s still plenty of skill involved without adding filters and letting the phone do it for you.
I guess you didn't notice my post as a sarcasm in response to a poster, I was quantifying value to a buyer by comparing the degree of cost to the degree of performance of an DSLR and a phone camera, value is subjective and thus cannot be quantified. I would never equate performance of a DSLR to a camera phone, at least not until the physics of light changes.
You’re right I didn’t notice the sarcasm and probably should have considering I come from the most sarcastic country in the world. Now you’ve explained it though it makes sense.
There are people on these boards though that genuinely feel a DSLR is redundant with the advances in mobile phone cameras. It’s quite astonishing.
It would obviously depend on the DSLR in question, but in general, agreed.
How is this thread helpful? Really? It's such a personal and financial choice. The OPs post didn't help with anything. It's just another person seeking validation. That's all. If he wanted to talk about making the 7 camera better with whatever app he downloaded, he should have started a thread about that topic and not mentioned the X at all.
That guy is a blithering idiot and all I want to do is punch his face in.
He doesn't review ****. 90% of his videos start with ... "DON'T BUY XXXX until you see XXXX" or "WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BUY XXX".
He's about as useful as tits on a boar hog.
Well, for folks who feel the DSLR is redundant probably have not shot processed a photo from a DSLR to an extent not possible from a phone camera. Not knocking down phone cameras, both DSLR and phone cameras have their place. Good photos can be captured on both mediums.
I did the same thing. I really wanted to like this phone, but the battery life stunk (i dont care what kool-aid some of the folks here are drinking, it was nowhere near the 7+ or 7 with apple smart case with actual usage).
Also face ID is absolutely horrible unless you’re in the perfect position, which for me was completely unnatural. It literally worked maybe 6 out of 10 times for me, where touch id worked 19/20. Usually only when my hands were wet did it mess up. I redid the setup 5 times, and it never got anywhere as fast/accurate as touch ID
The other not-such-dealbreaker was the screen ratio for websites was less than ideal and the OLED screen was way dimmer than my 7. True i wont get the actual orange shade of a giraffes ass while watching nature documentaries on the toilet, but i think i’ll live.
Luckily i never traded my 7 in, so i just returned it and saved myself $1200. I actually found a new appreciation for the “old” 7 after using the X for 2 weeks.
Im one for new apple tech too. I have a brand new maxed out new macbook which i upgraded from last years model, i upgraded my 9.7 IPP to a 10.5 IPP, AW2 to AW3 (which may have been a bad decision since ive had exactly 0 need for LTE on my watch since i got it on day 1), but the X was just a joke to me. A very expensive joke at that.
Also face ID is absolutely horrible unless you’re in the perfect position, which for me was completely unnatural. It literally worked maybe 6 out of 10 times for me, where touch id worked 19/20. Usually only when my hands were wet did it mess up. I redid the setup 5 times, and it never got anywhere as fast/accurate as touch ID
The other not-such-dealbreaker was the screen ratio for websites was less than ideal and the OLED screen was way dimmer than my 7. True i wont get the actual orange shade of a giraffes ass while watching nature documentaries on the toilet, but i think i’ll live.
Luckily i never traded my 7 in, so i just returned it and saved myself $1200. I actually found a new appreciation for the “old” 7 after using the X for 2 weeks.
Im one for new apple tech too. I have a brand new maxed out new macbook which i upgraded from last years model, i upgraded my 9.7 IPP to a 10.5 IPP, AW2 to AW3 (which may have been a bad decision since ive had exactly 0 need for LTE on my watch since i got it on day 1), but the X was just a joke to me. A very expensive joke at that.
I agree, for me it's value. I'm shopping for a used 7 at about $350-400. I sold my 6 for $200 so net $150 for a used 7 for a while. $1100 for the X was not worth it to me after using it for 2 weeks, (tho Apple is giving me about 6 weeks to return the X...
I lucked out and found a flawless black 32gig iPhone 7 on Craigslist for 300. I know 32 isn't for everyone, but very good deal compared to Swappa. Included all the original items and a Otterbox case.
I just switched last week to Metro $30 from the old $30 tmo Walmart plan I had for 4yrs. I needed more phone minutes so I moved to Metro with my factory unlocked 6s plus I bought full price from Apple 2 yrs ago. T-Mobile worked perfectly Visual VM everything. I was on iOS 10.3.3. The girl at Metro tested everything before I left the store after she activated my sim. Visual and VM notifications worked perfect. A week later I noticed no VM notifications. I called VM left a messsge then deleted. No notifications. I went to TMO yesterday they reset my VM password nothing worked. They said updating to iOS 11.2.5 would fix. I updated to newest software update over iTunes. Visual VM gone only a button to call VM. A red dot stays on the icon. It will not clear and no VM notifications. I’ve reset Network settings many times, toggled airplane mode, tried leaving airplane mode on for 30s then off. Held home and power button. I called VM to leave a message then delete. Red dot still there, I restored twice, I put a different active tmo sim then metro sim back in red dot comes back. Called Metro corporate they are clueless. If anyone can help me I would appreciate. I’ve only had this Metro for a week. I at least need my VM notifications. I’m supposed to be getting Visual VM. It only worked the day I activated them never worked again.
People are insecure about their purchase decision so they come seeking validation from others.