I believe the ad said it was for a refurbished unit? I wasn't really paying close attention as I'm one of those 1.6m happy WP7 users
If I see the ad again, I'll update here.
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I believe the ad said it was for a refurbished unit? I wasn't really paying close attention as I'm one of those 1.6m happy WP7 users
If I see the ad again, I'll update here.
I believe the ad said it was for a refurbished unit? I wasn't really paying close attention as I'm one of those 1.6m happy WP7 users
If I see the ad again, I'll update here.
no you are not part of the 1.6 m. You are part of like the 600k that came before it.
Compared to Android, Windows Phone 7 (NOT Windows Phone 2007 - that, like Micro$oft is so old), has much better touch response and UI "feel." Comparable to iOS, in fact.
I'm tiring of iOS and it's crappiness - I'm seriously considering switching to another OS this summer when the contract on my 3GS is up. This depends on what Apple brings out with iOS 5, but I can tell you this; I will consider WP7 before Android.
However, I'm personally rooting for the underdog in this game - webOS. I really hope HP can help it grow.
I'm tiring of iOS and it's crappiness - I'm seriously considering switching to another OS this summer when the contract on my 3GS is up. This depends on what Apple brings out with iOS 5, but I can tell you this; I will consider WP7 before Android.
However, I'm personally rooting for the underdog in this game - webOS. I really hope HP can help it grow.
WebOS would be good if there wasnt a chance of HP trying to go mainstream on desktops with it if it got big.
ALso WP7 is a better OS IMO.
Still wish someone else had bought webOS. Nokia/Htc maybe?
The reason i don't have an iPhone 4 is because for me the iPad is the best iOS device. And i don't see the point of owning more than one (iOS) unit. So that left Palm, WP7 and Android. Now i have two phones, a work and personal one. So i have a Samsung Omnia 7 (think you guys call it a focus?) and a Nexus S. Despite the fact Android has been out far longer it doesn't feel as slick or defined as WP7. I was surprised as i thought it would be other way round. Sure WP7 doesn't have as many apps or features yet but what they have done they have done well.
Id really like to see better cameras as none of the models i have seen can compare to Android phones yet and larger/removable storage but other than that im happy. I know a few people who develop apps and they say that its far better making them for WP7 than Android.
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I could be wrong but I see WebOS phones withering on the vine. There's no excitement no draw, no incentive. Its like HP has little interest in improving the mobile market share.
As for going to desktops, I think that's a bad idea all around. The desktop is so mature at this point there is no room for a new player. Windows, OSX and Linux are it. Heck, Linux is struggling to gain market share though ubunutu has helped this cause.
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The transition can't come soon enough.
http://www.neowin.net/news/things-get-worse-for-nokia-as-european-carriers-lose-interest#bottom
The transition can't come soon enough.
http://www.neowin.net/news/things-get-worse-for-nokia-as-european-carriers-lose-interest#bottom
yeah that will really stink if HP just lets WebOS wither because it has a huge amount of promise. WebOS would make a great tablet OS as well. I really hope HP does some good things with it.
That shouldn't have been a surprise to Nokia. The moment they announced their relationship with microsoft, that killed off any one wanting to buy a symbian based phone.
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This is true.
But 2012 seems a little late to make a fresh start. This market is very, very cutthroat and quite unforgiving. Entrenchment has already occurred, at least in my estimation. And I'm shocked at the speed at which it happened.
maflynn said:
This is true.
But 2012 seems a little late to make a fresh start. This market is very, very cutthroat and quite unforgiving. Entrenchment has already occurred, at least in my estimation. And I'm shocked at the speed at which it happened.
Late indeed, I was surprised that there wouldn't be a Nokia WP7 phone for a year. What they should have done is bang out a couple of cheap ones just have something on the shelves and then design some killer phones. As it stands they risk be cast aside
They could have gone so far as to ask some ODM to make some WP7 hardware and slapped a Nokia badge on it during the transition.
I guess this way they can put some real make or break kiler hardware out there this way.
I dowonder what sort of a toll the poor performance of WP7 sales and the inevitable preferential treatment Nokia will get will have on oem's like HTC, LG and Samsung.
Except hardware. They're good at making a variety of good-looking phones, the high-end ones packing some decent kit underneath the screen. Obviously, the main issue they're having to overcome is the OS and the general ecosystem; the Ovi Store. Apple raised the bar on what users expected from a phone; a more accessible/intuitive interface with apps and gimmicks galore, and Nokia were slow to react.
AND smartphones. The N8 has a 12 mega-pixel camera with HDMI out. I would LOVE that in a smartphone. Nokia are held back by their software. Which is why I'm so pleased about the Windows Phone 7 deal. Have you tried Windows Phone 7 before? It's lovely! Responsive and I love the way they've tried something different with the interface instead of trying to reinterpret the iPhone. Nokia hardware + Windows software is a combination I look forward to seeing more of. Whether they'll be successful remains to be seen, but I have no doubt that this the best way for both entities to move forward.
EDIT: I also agree with the notion that Symbian software isn't bad; just old. It was ahead of its time, but somehow got left trailing the newcomers. I've owned a lot of good Nokia phones and I hope they can get through this.
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This could turn out to be a perfect storm type of situation. With WP7 not taking off it risks being cast aside. Waiting a year carries the risk of both Nokia and WP7 being considered has-beens. That is combining the two will have little affect on stemming the loss from both WP7 and Nokia.
If anyone has the ability to pull WP7 out of the doldrums its Nokia with their marketshare and designs but waiting a year in the high tech world is an eternity.
Theres a rumour that there will be 9 new phones shown off tomorrow. 2 from HTC, 2 from Acer, 1 from Dell and 4 from Samsung. One of which is supposed to be closely related to the SGS2. And there will be over 500 new features in Mango.
The days when MSFT was considered slow & bungling are OVER. That's just staggering performance from the Windows Phone devs!
The days when MSFT was considered slow & bungling are OVER. That's just staggering performance from the Windows Phone devs!
Now its not so much that they are slow; its that their release schedule is enterprise oriented versus consumer more so.
For example, IE9 is complete for WP7 (save for graphics optimizations), but they aren't releasing it until Mango in September which is going to be a huge update versus Apple with more minor updates.
At the current rate WP7 is going it seems they're going to reach feature-parity with iOS/Android in 10-12 months.
I would say with Mango they will be on par or better than iOS in just about everything.
As far as Android, theres certain things that WP7 and iOS do not want to compete with such as the file system I think. So that is one area. But other than the ones that they dont want to compete in WP will be better IMO. Especially because Android lacks hardware acceleration.
With Mango give me WP over iSO or Android any day (given equal hardware like SGS2 based devices)
SGSII hardware with WP7 is drool-worthy. The more I use WP7, the more I really like it. Combining that with Samsung hardware and SAMOLED+ display is a very tempting proposition. I can never go back to normal LCD displays after using the Galaxy S' SAMOLED screens. Can't wait to see what they show tomorrow.
I think its premature to judge an unreleased OS against a year old OS. To be fair you would need to compare Mango against iOS5. We'll be hearing some of the details of iOS5 at WWDC so at that point it will be a fair comparison.
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When people say "SGS II hardware", are they referring to chassis/design or the internal components also (hummingbird dual core 1.2GHz + Mali GPU)?
Everything I've read suggests that WP7 would be a Qualcomm Snapdragon only affair with 2nd gen Snapdragons and the Adreno 205 GPU.
http://iphone.electronista.com/articles/11/04/14/microsoft.widens.wp7.spec.to.include/
I would be truly surprised to see such a leap from today's hardware to SGS II hardware!
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When people say "SGS II hardware", are they referring to chassis/design or the internal components also (hummingbird dual core 1.2GHz + Mali GPU)?
Everything I've read suggests that WP7 would be a Qualcomm Snapdragon only affair with 2nd gen Snapdragons and the Adreno 205 GPU.
http://iphone.electronista.com/articles/11/04/14/microsoft.widens.wp7.spec.to.include/
I would be truly surprised to see such a leap from today's hardware to SGS II hardware!