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baryon

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Can someone answer this please:

In Snow Leopard, it really annoys me that when you have a folder full of photos, and you're in icon view to see the thumbnails, you click on one and press Space to get QuickLook. Then you want to see the next photo, so you press "Right" to select the icon on the right. However, once you reach the rightmost icon, you can no longer go right as the next icon is one line below, on the left, and it doesn't get selected.

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To overcome this, you have to select all of the photos at once, and either open them with Preview or QuickLook. However, then you have to start from the very first photo. What if you just want to quickly look through 20 photos in the middle of the folder?

In Lion, has this been fixed? Can you either use QuickLook to continuously browse photos, or does the selection move from the rightmost icon to the leftmost one below when you press "Right" on the keyboard (and vice versa for Left)?
 

Mal

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Can someone answer this please:

In Snow Leopard, it really annoys me that when you have a folder full of photos, and you're in icon view to see the thumbnails, you click on one and press Space to get QuickLook. Then you want to see the next photo, so you press "Right" to select the icon on the right. However, once you reach the rightmost icon, you can no longer go right as the next icon is one line below, on the left, and it doesn't get selected.

Use Tab instead of the right arrow. That will select sequentially, and will drop down to the next row like you'd expect.

jW
 

baryon

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Use Tab instead of the right arrow. That will select sequentially, and will drop down to the next row like you'd expect.

jW

Wow! Awesome! Thanks! Though still, does it drop down with the arrow keys with Lion?
 

Tom8

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Can someone pack all the new wallpapers into a zip file and post it here?

Thanks
 

Takuro

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Wow! Awesome! Thanks! Though still, does it drop down with the arrow keys with Lion?

No, it doesn't. That's because arrow keys are meant for navigating the files as they appear in a grid, not for sequential selection. When you reach a boundary of the grid, you're at the limit and should not be able to go any further. Whether you are in Quicklook or not, arrow keys change what file is selected in the grid using this sort of behavior. The fact that you're in Quicklook simply means you get a preview of whatever is currently selected.

The fact that Apple's software engineers decided to assign the "tab" key to perform sequential selections probably means they feel they addressed it sufficiently, so they might not feel a need to change it.
 

baryon

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No, it doesn't. That's because arrow keys are meant for navigating the files as they appear in a grid, not for sequential selection. When you reach a boundary of the grid, you're at the limit and should not be able to go any further. Whether you are in Quicklook or not, arrow keys change what file is selected in the grid using this sort of behavior. The fact that you're in Quicklook simply means you get a preview of whatever is currently selected.

The fact that Apple's software engineers decided to assign the "tab" key to perform sequential selections probably means they feel they addressed it sufficiently, so they might not feel a need to change it.

It's not obvious whether it makes sense or not, because although something that's on the bottom left isn't to the right of what's above it on the right, that's also the direction we read text, so in that sense it could make sense. Plus that's also how it works in the native Open/Save dialogs in OS X, interestingly, also in Windows and in Adobe Bridge. It's very practical and has no disadvantages.

Using Tab is okay, but using Shift + Tab to go back is annoying. If I want to compare two images by quickly switching between the two, pressing Tab and then Shift + Tab repeatedly is annoying and unpractical.

I don't want to open Bridge to view images every time, as it takes ages to load. I also don't want to Select All, open with Preview, and then find the image AGAIN (I've already found the image amongst the icons, now I have to find it again in the Preview sidebar!).

Windows has the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, which is a super simple app that works great for this. You open a single image and you can view the next one and previous one with the press of a button easily. You don't have to select all of the files first, or press **** + Tab or anything like that.

It's just a very basic thing that I think would make the finder much better.
 
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Synaesthesia242

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If you download Xee, which is a free viewer, and associate your images with it, you can have the functionality you crave - it can easily browse through images in a folder. Try it.
 

superericla

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Much better memory usage in Safari. I used to have all 4GB of my ram used with Safari open with very few tabs and now I only have 2GB of the 4 used in the same scenario.
 

rmbrown09

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Much better memory usage in Safari. I used to have all 4GB of my ram used with Safari open with very few tabs and now I only have 2GB of the 4 used in the same scenario.

Safari is too slow for me, especially on flash heavy sites like Engadget. Sluggish.
Chrome rips through multiple tabs full of flash with no lug.
 

superericla

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Safari is too slow for me, especially on flash heavy sites like Engadget. Sluggish.
Chrome rips through multiple tabs full of flash with no lug.

Really? I've had similar performance in both Safari and Chrome as of late, even on flash heavy websites.
 

TuffLuffJimmy

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Much better memory usage in Safari. I used to have all 4GB of my ram used with Safari open with very few tabs and now I only have 2GB of the 4 used in the same scenario.

2GB of RAM with only a few tabs open? It sounds like you're so used to absolutely awful performance that you'll settle for any improvement. :p
 

superericla

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2GB of RAM with only a few tabs open? It sounds like you're so used to absolutely awful performance that you'll settle for any improvement. :p

I'm talking about total memory use with Safari open, not just Safari's memory use. In the last Lion developer preview, Safari used 2+ GB of ram which it no longer does.
 

Tom8

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Can someone pack all the new wallpapers into a zip file and post it here?

Thanks

http://www.mediafire.com/?hgeg2xhld19ryga

Thanks very much!
 

theBigD23

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Don't know if this is known or not, but on Mail, but if you have an email with a conversation and 2, for example, you can click on the number two and a small window will open showing the individual conversations.

The number of unread emails in the dock also looks different.
 

robjulo

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Windows has the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, which is a super simple app that works great for this. You open a single image and you can view the next one and previous one with the press of a button easily. You don't have to select all of the files first, or press **** + Tab or anything like that.

It's just a very basic thing that I think would make the finder much better.

+1. Simply cycling through some photos should be EASY, I shouldn't have to select all photos and then cycle through, I shouldn't have to fool with tab and shift-tab or worry whether I am at the end of the row.

Windows has this right.
 

TuffLuffJimmy

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+1. Simply cycling through some photos should be EASY, I shouldn't have to select all photos and then cycle through, I shouldn't have to fool with tab and shift-tab or worry whether I am at the end of the row.

Windows has this right.

It should be built into the finder, but my guess is Apple wants to keep the finder simple and even more wants you to use iPhoto for file viewing. In mu opinion you should be able to open folders in preview and depending on the contents Preview will string all the files into the sidebar.
 

Tmelon

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I think Safari has become less usable than it was in Dev Preview 1...

Every minute I have to deal with it insisting that the pages are not responding when they clearly are, and then it fails to load pages and just gives me a white screen. Safari 5.1 probably needs more bug fixes than half of the other apps included in Lion. But these non-laggy folders in Launchpad are more than welcome.
 

baryon

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Windows has the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, which is a super simple app that works great for this. You open a single image and you can view the next one and previous one with the press of a button easily. You don't have to select all of the files first, or press **** + Tab or anything like that.

lol, I just noticed that I made a typo and didn't type the "F" when I was writing "Shift + Tab" and it got censured :D
 

Lukeit

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I think Safari has become less usable than it was in Dev Preview 1...

Every minute I have to deal with it insisting that the pages are not responding when they clearly are, and then it fails to load pages and just gives me a white screen. Safari 5.1 probably needs more bug fixes than half of the other apps included in Lion. But these non-laggy folders in Launchpad are more than welcome.

Agree 100%... all these Safari bugs are driving me crazy... had to switch to Firefox (or Chrome) for some peace of mind!
 

AdeFowler

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+1. Simply cycling through some photos should be EASY, I shouldn't have to select all photos and then cycle through, I shouldn't have to fool with tab and shift-tab or worry whether I am at the end of the row.

Windows has this right.

I agree. It seems even stranger when you can achieve the desired behaviour by setting an Open/Save dialog box to icon view. I'm not a developer, so perhaps someone who is could provide feedback to Apple.
 
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