10.7 All the Little Things!

[mike423]

To be honest, I kind of laughed when you went out and bought a machine that had the *exact* specs that somebody else previously recommended. I don’t know whether this was because that model was the best value, or because you were afraid to deviate from instructions. Anyway, thats a pretty nice upgrade from your previous machine and should easily run Lion. But honestly, man, you need to do a little bit of homework on things such as:

1. What generation of Intel CPU’s are most current, and which family within that generation do you want (i3, i5, and i7.)
2. What general range of clock speeds (measured in GHz) is considered current, and which suites your needs.
3. What size (measured in GB) and speed (measured in MHz) of RAM is available on Apple machines, and do you need to upgrade beyond the amount that machines have standard.

All this stuff is readily available on Apple.com’s product pages, laid out nice and neat on the “Technical Specifications” pages. Example: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

If anything confuses you, just search the hardware on Wikipedia and they usually give you a whole list of specifications for the product family, such as for core i5’s and core i7’s. Then, after scoping things out, you will have a ballpark idea of what to look for in a machine, and decide how much you want to spend. Once you understand some of the basic numbers, you walk into any Apple store, find products that have the specs clearly listed near the display, and try them out to see how they feel. Until you do this, they remain meaningless numbers. After experiencing thing firsthand how performance can differ between models, you’ll have an appreciation for what these numbers mean.

If you continue posting blind pleas for assistance in purchasing decisions, people are going to have a field day with you. Sure, what I just described requires probably 1 hour of research and 1 hour testing things in a store, but when you’re throwing down $2k for a computer, it’s sort of justified.

By the way, in order to get the full experience of Lion, you need to go out and buy a 16 core Mac Pro when they come out in a month or so.

Thanks for all your input. Really appreciated.

What did you mean by "in order to get the full experience of Lion"

Thanks.

 

[mike423]

Don't let chickenhawk get you down. Your question is legit.

Thanks

 

[AdeFowler]

Bump on this for the lack of key repeat issue. Lion pops up accent characters and such (or nothing for letters that don't have any, like f). Wish it'd just type ffffffffffff if I held it down for half a second.

And why would you ever want to type ffffffffffff ?

 

[monksealpup]

And why would you ever want to type ffffffffffff ?

Maybe I want to hold down 9 and get a bunch of 9s. Maybe I want to type ooooooh? What's it matter why someone would want to type it? The question is, why isn't there an option to enable key repeat (and, if there is, why isn't it right next to the key repeat setting in system prefs?)?

 

[HelveticaNeue]

I am not sure if anyone has posted this, but Time Machine has changed aesthetically to look like Versions. The timeline is pink (not green as it appeared in the last DP I saw) and the stars move much more fluidly. There is also an amazing star effect when you move back and forth through time, the stars move really fast almost like you went into warp for a second.

 

[MartiNZ]

Maybe I want to hold down 9 and get a bunch of 9s. Maybe I want to type ooooooh? What's it matter why someone would want to type it? The question is, why isn't there an option to enable key repeat (and, if there is, why isn't it right next to the key repeat setting in system prefs?)?

Yeah I was worried about this when I heard about the change they're trying out with Lion. I think that one is going a little too far iO(S)verboard with features better suited to touch - instead it requires mouse interaction if I understand? I think I'd be happier were it left unchanged. Next they'll change copy/paste to the godawful implementation on iOS that we would all be much happier if had never come, ironically.

 

[Lord Appleseed]

About this holding "f" to get "fffffffff" thing: Is it really that annoying to just type fffffffff a few times? Or ooooooh!? it's not like one of you will break his finger when you do that twice a month or so.

 

[sine-nomine]

So I have a question:

Can I still press Option+e, then type an "e" to get an é like I always have been able to on my Mac? Or is the Option+(character) method now gone, with the "Hold down a character" method completely replacing it?

 

[tkermit]

If you really wanted to, couldn't you just type a character, then hold down the Shift key, move the cursor by one character to the left, release the Shift key, hold down the command key, press "c" and then hold down "v" for as long as you like?

(Sounds more complicated than it actually is... )

 

[Lord Appleseed]

How about pressing "f" 10 times?

 

[silexh]

been there, done that. sorry - it doesnt work with 12,1/12,2 imacs

That's weird. Where does it go wrong?

Edit: Oh, and you might want to start a thread for it

 

[SideStepSociety]

Thanks for the advice, but I'm actually looking for a yes/no answer.

Although I've read that the minimum is a Core 2 duo, there's still some people saying that it still can be done with the system specifications I cited.

They're wrong. At least for now. Finder, and most (if not all?) other system applications are 64-bit only now. Your Core Duo is not 64-bit. Even if you did manage to get it to run, like a couple others had, you'd have no Finder, and probably terrible, terrible performance. Won't work until somebody finds a work around.

DP1, however, will work completely and nearly as good as Snow Leopard, in my experience, I might add.

 

[markrox7]

Will iTunes 10.5 come with Lion? Or will it still be in beta?

 

[spencers]

About this holding "f" to get "fffffffff" thing: Is it really that annoying to just type fffffffff a few times? Or ooooooh!? it's not like one of you will break his finger when you do that twice a month or so.

Yes, it's bloody annoying. Instead of the smart ass remarks, how about a solution?

 

[Sky Blue]

Will iTunes 10.5 come with Lion? Or will it still be in beta?

Probably be out when iOS 5 is out.

 

[eeyoredragon]

About this holding "f" to get "fffffffff" thing: Is it really that annoying to just type fffffffff a few times? Or ooooooh!? it's not like one of you will break his finger when you do that twice a month or so.

Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.

 

[kepner]

Can I still press Option+e, then type an "e" to get an é like I always have been able to on my Mac?

Yes.

 

[Kahnyl]

F

Wait....

Gimme a sec....

F

f.....f

OMG. My internet powers are gone! How will people know when I'm having a spaz attack?

 

[bushido]

Yes, it's bloody annoying. Instead of the smart ass remarks, how about a solution?

well its not rly annoying to me as i need the spanish letters a lot. to each their own i guess.

 

[superericla]

I'm not sure if this has been in the past builds of Lion or if anyone has noticed it yet but moving windows around while in Mission Control creates a small animation based on where you drag the window to. I took a short screen recording and posted it to youtube.

 

[djrod]

well its not rly annoying to me as i need the spanish letters a lot. to each their own i guess.

for me, being a spaniard is a little bit annoying, funny world

 

[CyBeRino]

Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.

It's app-specific. In terminal (which is where you SHOULD be using vi), key repeat works as it always has.

 

[hopejr]

Let's not get caught up on a specific series of characters here...

I use text editors that I scroll through with the keyboard. i.e. VI style. While this works in Terminal, it does not work in other apps. e.g. my VI plugin in Eclipse... I can no longer hold down 'J' to scroll down a few lines or move down a file quickly but slow enough to skim code. I have to use the trackpad... which is kinda why I'm using the VI plugin in the first place.

This is annoying.

You could always just use the down arrow (yes, I know it's not in the home row, but it works).

 

[tdar]

I am not sure if anyone has posted this, but Time Machine has changed aesthetically to look like Versions. The timeline is pink (not green as it appeared in the last DP I saw) and the stars move much more fluidly. There is also an amazing star effect when you move back and forth through time, the stars move really fast almost like you went into warp for a second.

All of the changes are not aesthetic. Lots of changes under the hood as well it seems. I predict we will hear lots of complants about things that used to work that do not work any more. Like network backups that have really never been supported (but people had made them work) and now just do not work. I'll say this, If you want to do your backups over a network...get ready to buy a Time Capsule.

 

[markrox7]

having been able to use the GM of Lion, how soon do you think Lion will be released to the public?