12-11-2021 - PPCMC 7.2.6 - YouTube/Twitch Streaming, Downloading, File Conversion, Web Interface, & More For Panther-Leopard PPC/Intel

[fourbirds]

Thank you for the app. It works really well.

Perhaps combine your work with wicknix's TenFiveTube for a complete youtube solution? No need to copy paste links, no need to browse youtube using our outdated or slow browsers. Find the video you want to watch in TenFiveTube, click a button and PPCMC opens up the stream.

Just a thought.

 

[z970]

Alex, how does one download .m4a files? There is no option in the PPCMC menu, and when downloading the MP4, the script automatically combines the audio and video file before the user can do anything.

 

[alex_free]

Alex, how does one download .m4a files? There is no option in the PPCMC menu, and when downloading the MP4, the script automatically combines the audio and video file before the user can do anything.

It’s on my todo list, didn’t get to include everything I’ve wanted to yet but this is a 7.0.6 feature.

 

[alex_free]

Alex, how does one download .m4a files? There is no option in the PPCMC menu, and when downloading the MP4, the script automatically combines the audio and video file before the user can do anything.

7.0.6 is out, enjoy your M4A downloading.

 

[z970]

7.0.6 is out, enjoy your M4A downloading.

You work very fast.

EDIT: Question, when the m4a file is pulled from the video stream, would it possible to download it at a higher rate than 128kbps, or is that standard in all video files? What quality does the m4a option download files at, or would that be best available?

Then again, maybe I'm reading the whole process wrong...

 

[alex_free]

You work very fast.

You work very fast.

EDIT: Question, when the m4a file is pulled from the video stream, would it possible to download it at a higher rate than 128kbps, or is that standard in all video files? What quality does the m4a option download files at, or would that be best available?

Then again, maybe I'm reading the whole process wrong...

I have it downloading the best M4A available, is it really only 128kbs? I noticed that was what my videos were in Mac OS 9 QuickTime 6.

Edit: Yea looks like this is how YouTube works

YouTube Audio Quality Bitrate Used For 360p, 480p, 720p, 1080p, 1440p, 2160p - H3XED

The only way for a higher quality file seems to be to add avc1/webm libraries to ffmpeg and then transcode (which I need to do anyways since some videos are becoming avc1/webm only).

 

[Dronecatcher]

Question, when the m4a file is pulled from the video stream, would it possible to download it at a higher rate than 128kbps, or is that standard in all video files?

Opus files at 160K are available - I think only VLC will play them straight off - I always converted with Audacity.

 

[alex_free]

Opus files at 160K are available - I think only VLC will play them straight off - I always converted with Audacity.

Looks like we posted at the same time and came to the same conclusion. I’ll add transcoding for these in a future update.

 

[z970]

What a great collaborative effort.

 

[alex_free]

What a great collaborative effort.

PPC & YouTube has a long future ahead of it. I posted about PPCMC on macos9lives and someone even has 240p MPEG4 Part 2 MP4’s downloaded with PPCMC playing back on a 733mhz Power Mac G4 in OS9!

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,5380.0.html

 

[G4fanboy]

Yesterday I downloaded a 1080 4Hours video from Panther.

Awesome to see downloading the video, the audio and merging them in less than 15 minutes.

Thanks

 

[AL1630]

Awesome! I can watch youtube on my PPCs smoothly! It's working well on my iBook G4, I'll give it a shot on my other machines as well.

 

[alex_free]

Opus files at 160K are available - I think only VLC will play them straight off - I always converted with Audacity.

Just added a feature that allows you to select an already existing file and transcode it to a specified output file. Next is to add some webm/avc1 codecs...

 

[alex_free]

I have it downloading the best M4A available, is it really only 128kbs? I noticed that was what my videos were in Mac OS 9 QuickTime 6.

Edit: Yea looks like this is how YouTube works

YouTube Audio Quality Bitrate Used For 360p, 480p, 720p, 1080p, 1440p, 2160p - H3XED

The only way for a higher quality file seems to be to add avc1/webm libraries to ffmpeg and then transcode (which I need to do anyways since some videos are becoming avc1/webm only).

Hell has frozen over... YouTube just made PPCMC MORE compatible. Every video before that I found to be AVC1 only is now available in standard x264, I can no longer find a video that won’t playback/support transcoding for QuickTime 6.

 

[alex_free]

Hell has frozen over... YouTube just made PPCMC MORE compatible. Every video before that I found to be AVC1 only is now available in standard x264, I can no longer find a video that won’t playback/support transcoding for QuickTime 6.

Next update is going to force disable av01 so x264 always gets downloaded.

Also in the works will be some way to transcode a playable video for a G3 300mhz, since my Clamshell will be in tomorrow.

 

[TheShortTimer]

Just wondered, will there be an option to stream at 1080/720 if you have a PM G5?

Keep up the good work btw.

 

[alex_free]

Just wondered, will there be an option to stream at 1080/720 if you have a PM G5?

Keep up the good work btw.

Thanks! Sadly I did some experiments before even releasing PPCMC 7.0 to see if the above was possible. The answer is, with QuickTime at least, not possible. YouTube gives us one 360p x264 file, and a ton of separate high quality audio and video streams. While I can easily download both a high quality audio and video stream and mix it to one MP4, QuickTime can not stream a separate audio and video stream at the same time.

I know MPlayer can stream YouTube at 480p on leopard for some videos, I was using SMTube before I knew what PPCMC was. So it’s still possible with something that is not QuickTime, I just have not done enough research into Mplayer and how it streams YouTube.

Eventually Mplayer will be integrated, so it should happen in the future.
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Thanks! Sadly I did some experiments before even releasing PPCMC 7.0 to see if the above was possible. The answer is, with QuickTime at least, not possible. YouTube gives us one 360p x264 file, and a ton of separate high quality audio and video streams. While I can easily download both a high quality audio and video stream and mix it to one MP4, QuickTime can not stream a separate audio and video stream at the same time.

I know MPlayer can stream YouTube at 480p on leopard for some videos, I was using SMTube before I knew what PPCMC was. So it’s still possible with something that is not QuickTime, I just have not done enough research into Mplayer and how it streams YouTube.

Eventually Mplayer will be integrated, so it should happen in the future.

Edit: just wanted to add the fact that YouTube used to provide single 720p, 480p, 360p, and 240p videos which could have been streamed but that was years ago, that’s long dead and is all YouTube’s fault.

 

[TheShortTimer]

Eventually Mplayer will be integrated, so it should happen in the future.

Great! That's something to look forward to.

Edit: just wanted to add the fact that YouTube used to provide single 720p, 480p, 360p, and 240p videos which could have been streamed but that was years ago, that’s long dead and is all YouTube’s fault.

Yep, YouTube has changed for the worse in many ways. I think that their takeover by Google was a turning point.

 

[alex_free]

Great! That's something to look forward to.



Yep, YouTube has changed for the worse in many ways. I think that their takeover by Google was a turning point.

I still remember the first time I ever watched YouTube in 2009. I asked the person showing me “so you can watch anything you want, and there’s no ads? How does that work?” and they responded “yeah, and I have no idea but how cool is this.”

 

[z970]

Yep, YouTube has changed for the worse in many ways. I think that their takeover by Google was a turning point.

Their takeover by Google happened in 2006. You know, before they turned evil.

The dictatorship of Susan Wojcicki however, beginning in 2014, was a serious pitfall for the website. Endless JavaScript, questionable ethics, and alienating decisions ahoy... not to mention our little API woes, which has recently claimed Tonvid as one of its victims.

My epic quest for a replacement continues...

I still remember the first time I ever watched YouTube in 2009. I asked the person showing me “so you can watch anything you want, and there’s no ads? How does that work?” and they responded “yeah, and I have no idea but how cool is this.”

Bet you heard this nonstop...

 

[RogerWilco6502]

Just added a feature that allows you to select an already existing file and transcode it to a specified output file. Next is to add some webm/avc1 codecs...

Does this mean I'll be able to feed it any video I have on my computer for input as opposed to strictly a YouTube video?

Next update is going to force disable av01 so x264 always gets downloaded.

Also in the works will be some way to transcode a playable video for a G3 300mhz, since my Clamshell will be in tomorrow.

If you need some testing done on a 500MHz G3 I have my iBook running OS 9, so it would be possible for me to transcode stuff for it if you want some tests done

 

[Dronecatcher]

Also in the works will be some way to transcode a playable video for a G3 300mhz, since my Clamshell will be in tomorrow.

MPEG4, Apple Compressor - limit the FPS and bitrate to suit - tried and tested

 

[Dronecatcher]

For me the 3gp downloader downloads in real time and the example I tried had so many dropped frames the audio sync was way out.
When youtube-dl could still reach the 3gp files it appeared to download at about 4 x real time and never had the audio sync issues.
I've noticed the audio sync is an issue on 3gp streaming too on other methods - eg my MPlayer version but that can be time shifted live with hotkeys.
As an aside, did you know whilst QuickTime is streaming 3gp, you can save the file as a streaming link for online playback later, which in my test didn't suffer from sync issues?

 

[alex_free]

MPEG4, Apple Compressor - limited the FPS and bitrate to suit - tried and tested

I’m taking nothing less then full audio bitrate and fps, I’ll definitely check that out as well.
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For me the 3gp downloader downloads in real time and the example I tried had so many dropped frames the audio sync was way out.
When youtube-dl could still reach the 3gp files it appeared to download at about 4 x real time and never had the audio sync issues.
I've noticed the audio sync is an issue on 3gp streaming too on other methods - eg my MPlayer version but that can be time shifted live with hotkeys.
As an aside, did you know whilst QuickTime is streaming 3gp, you can save the file as a streaming link for online playback later, which in my test didn't suffer from sync issues?

I did not know that, interesting. I’m not sure how else to improve the 3gp downloader unfortunately. I have noticed sometimes it drops frames other times it does not, it’s hit or miss which sucks.

 

[alex_free]

Does this mean I'll be able to feed it any video I have on my computer for input as opposed to strictly a YouTube video?

Yes it does! I’ve always wanted to make a ffmpeg GUI since all the Windows ones are terrible.

Yes it does! I’ve always wanted to make a ffmpeg GUI since all the Windows ones are terrible.

That would be great! Could you see if the 240p QuickTime 6 download option plays on that iBook on OS 9? I’d use a faster ppc Mac to do the download if I where you and you have one available.