120 dollars of apps gone due to IOS11

[StarShot]

Finally got sick of Apple spamming me everyday to update my IOS to 11, so I reluctantly upgraded. At least 120 dollars worth of apps that worked on my phone earlier today not don’t work on the same phone now. @“$! You Apple!

You must have over a hundred 99 cent apps. From my experience apps that cost more than the base rate are usually updated by their developers. How about listing a few of these "gems" that no longer work. I have 11.2.5 and as far as I know, all my apps still work. However, in the past year I've had a few apps "disappear".

 

[Agent2015]

Microsoft Windows has been 64 bit for years and still supports 32 bit software.

In other news, how is that Windows Phone working out for you?

 

[adamhenry]

Microsoft Windows has been 64 bit for years and still supports 32 bit software.

So 32 bit and 64 bit both run on a very poor OS loaded with security holes that have to be patched monthly. Not useful to me.

 

[syphern]

Unpopular opinion - Apple should have given us the choice for 32bit apps. For example there are certain 32bit apps for work I used to use but were never updated. These apps were life savers. There should have been an option to use them with a warning etc that it may drain resources.

 

[TiggrToo]

Unpopular opinion - Apple should have given us the choice for 32bit apps. For example there are certain 32bit apps for work I used to use but were never updated. These apps were life savers. There should have been an option to use them with a warning etc that it may drain resources.

So, you think that Apple should maintain a 32 Bit compatibility layer that drains resources and\or space on ALL users iOS 11 devices just so a select few could keep running apps that hadn't been updated in over two years?

Wow, and you feel that Apple are selfish?

Again - ALL THIS - EVERY LAST BIT OF IT - lands squarely on the shoulders of the developers of the apps that were abandoned.

 

[960design]

Finally got sick of Apple spamming me everyday to update my IOS to 11, so I reluctantly upgraded. At least 120 dollars worth of apps that worked on my phone earlier today not don’t work on the same phone now. @“$! You Apple!

Try pointing the blame in the proper direction. You may received a better response. Contact the developers. Apple has sent out many emails notifying developers of the upcoming changes.

That's like blaming taco bell on levi pants choice to no longer carry 48" waist skinny jeans.

 

[saudor]

Joke, right? Because just about everything written here is ignorant.

What's with the hate here? If that guy wants to keep around another device for 32 bit apps, how does that affect you? His money. His decisions. There's whole communities based around running old stuff just for nostalgia, or just for shiz and giggles. (i.e. Dosbox, etc)

 

[AZhappyjack]

You must have over a hundred 99 cent apps. From my experience apps that cost more than the base rate are usually updated by their developers. How about listing a few of these "gems" that no longer work. I have 11.2.5 and as far as I know, all my apps still work. However, in the past year I've had a few apps "disappear".

Doubtful the OP is coming back... he may have just wanted to whine...

 

[GizmoDVD]

I just want to know what these $120 worth of apps are. Likely the OP added the "1" in by accident.

 

[NoBoMac]

I just want to know what these $120 worth of apps are. Likely the OP added the "1" in by accident.

Or did mean to have the "1" in front. The board had a number of threads when v11 dropped re: "all my old games are gone!", "all my old apps are gone! I liked to have the visual app history on my device!" (that was a real excuse for hanging onto long dead apps).

Probably lots of abandoned by developer games, imo.

 

[Mlrollin91]

What's with the hate here? If that guy wants to keep around another device for 32 bit apps, how does that affect you? His money. His decisions. There's whole communities based around running old stuff just for nostalgia, or just for shiz and giggles. (i.e. Dosbox, etc)

Have you even read the thread? Your post is completely irrelevant and what you are speaking of is not what the OP is talking about.

 

[upandown]

Complain to the app developers.

 

[Solver]

Apple is the devil. Stick to 32 bits forever! Even better, 16 bits FTW! Everybody back to the Windows 3.1!

ALTAIR 8800 FOREVER!

Can’t find anything to load my Micro Soft 4K Basic tape
Dam Mitts!

 

[FelixDerKater]

How many were you actually using?

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

What's with the hate here? If that guy wants to keep around another device for 32 bit apps, how does that affect you? His money. His decisions. There's whole communities based around running old stuff just for nostalgia, or just for shiz and giggles. (i.e. Dosbox, etc)

There's a BIG difference between wanting to keep old technology around for nostalgia and stating Apple should have found a better way to handle 32 bit apps and the rest of the diatribe. I don't think you read his/her post the same way.
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Microsoft Windows has been 64 bit for years and still supports 32 bit software.

And Windows continues to be junk with companies continuing to spend millions more on support than they should have to. Many, like IBM, are finding OSX to be much less of a support burden. Hmmm. Don't think you made a good argument there.
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We’re talking OS here, but isn’t the A11 also incompatible with 32bit apps? So the issue was coming either with the first processor to drop support or the first OS to drop support for 32bit apps.

Apple decided to have these 2 events coincide.

The 5S, with the 64-bit processor, was incompatible with 32-bit apps. Apple had to build an emulator to continue running those apps. It takes resources to do that and bloats the code required to run the system. Dropping 32-bit support was a good move and like it or not, Apple did it very well. MANY others have dropped similar support without much warning.
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It would be nice if you are
1) given the option to downgrade
2) not CONSTANLTY spammed by apple to upgrade

Though it might be nice from a user experience to downgrade, I understand Apple's stance on that. Same reason they push you to upgrade your device to the newest OS. Aside from security issues that are addressed, it makes the development of apps much easier to do and support. Which, in the end, leads to a better experience for the end user.

 

[gnasher729]

The 5S, with the 64-bit processor, was incompatible with 32-bit apps. Apple had to build an emulator to continue running those apps.

No emulator needed. All the ARM processors can run 32 bit code just fine. 32 bit support _was removed by Apple_ from iOS 11. There are good technical reasons to do that, but fact is that the processors are not incompatible with 32 bit apps, and no emulator ever had to be written.

 

[saudor]

Have you even read the thread? Your post is completely irrelevant and what you are speaking of is not what the OP is talking about.

I’m not quoting OP here. I’m quoting/referring to the person that got bashed for saying he kept a SECOND iDevice to run old apps.

 

[Mlrollin91]

I’m not quoting OP here. I’m quoting/referring to the person that got bashed for saying he kept a SECOND iDevice to run old apps.

That’s not what the person you quoted was quoting. If you go back and read you’ll see that person that was being quoted said Apple should find a way to keep 32bit, which is not possible. Hence the ignorance comment.

You need to read the full comment, not cherry pick the last sentence.

 

[aristobrat]

Doubtful the OP is coming back... he may have just wanted to whine...

A quick look at the OP’s post history makes that highly likely. lol

 

[Hedo]

I kept my iPad Air 2 on 10.3.3 so that I could still enjoy my all time favorite games Monkey Island and Monkey Island 2 which aren't available for 64 bit and probably never will be updated as the games aren't sold on the app store anymore as far as I can tell.

Besides that I would update it in a heartbeat!

 

[now i see it]

The OPs complaint has merit.
iOS 9 does not have any of these "32 bit apps will not be compliant" warnings. It's just business as usual.
And unless someone crawls Apple news sites on a regular basis, there would be no way to know that iOS 11 will hose all your 32 bit apps.

So whose fault is it for wiping 32 bit apps off the device during an iOS 9 to 11 upgrade with ZERO warning that this is gunna happen? It's NOT the developers fault. It's Apple's. Since Apple loves pop ups, they could have easily had a warning screen pop up before installing iOS 11 warning of the impending 32 bit app carnage about to take place.
But do they? Of course not. Apple desperately wants you to continually upgrade (actually it's a downgrade) the OS weekly to slowly kill your old phone by attrition. THAT is the reason. No other.

 

[Superrjamz54]

The OPs complaint has merit.
iOS 9 does not have any of these "32 bit apps will not be compliant" warnings. It's just business as usual.
And unless someone crawls Apple news sites on a regular basis, there would be no way to know that iOS 11 will hose all your 32 bit apps.

So whose fault is it for wiping 32 bit apps off the device during an iOS 9 to 11 upgrade with ZERO warning that this is gunna happen? It's NOT the developers fault. It's Apple's. Since Apple loves pop ups, they could have easily had a warning screen pop up before installing iOS 11 warning of the impending 32 bit app carnage about to take place.
But do they? Of course not. Apple desperately wants you to continually upgrade (actually it's a downgrade) the OS weekly to slowly kill your old phone by attrition. THAT is the reason. No other.

They did in IOS 10. Plenty of warning for users to get on the lazy developers to keep their apps up to date. Apple gave the developers notice, the good ones keep,their apps up to date the lazy ones don’t.

 

[saudor]

That’s not what the person you quoted was quoting. If you go back and read you’ll see that person that was being quoted said Apple should find a way to keep 32bit, which is not possible. Hence the ignorance comment.

You need to read the full comment, not cherry pick the last sentence.

This is the original post (in bold):

It's really a shame Apple couldn't come up with a better work around for people to keep their 32-Bit apps.
- This is a statement of opinion and a comment regarding the circumstances. They arent saying that apple SHOULD find a way to do 32 bit apps. Rather that it's a bummer it's been lost.

And to make matters worse they constantly push and almost trick you into upgrading your device to iOS 11.
- The upgrade notification comes up on a regular basis. The only way to prevent is to install the tvOS profile or delete the update file (which is fine until the next update rolls out). "Trick" is a bit strong here though but that nag is there.

I have 100's of 32-bit apps as well that I didn't want to lose, so I bought a 2nd iPad to keep on the old iOS and a newer iPad I use on iOS 11+.
- Again, guy's not saying apple should bring back 32 bit apps. Unlike OP, he's already come up with his own solution which the other poster has called him "ignorant and a joke"

 

[TiggrToo]

The OPs complaint has merit.
iOS 9 does not have any of these "32 bit apps will not be compliant" warnings. It's just business as usual.
And unless someone crawls Apple news sites on a regular basis, there would be no way to know that iOS 11 will hose all your 32 bit apps.

So whose fault is it for wiping 32 bit apps off the device during an iOS 9 to 11 upgrade with ZERO warning that this is gunna happen? It's NOT the developers fault. It's Apple's. Since Apple loves pop ups, they could have easily had a warning screen pop up before installing iOS 11 warning of the impending 32 bit app carnage about to take place.
But do they? Of course not. Apple desperately wants you to continually upgrade (actually it's a downgrade) the OS weekly to slowly kill your old phone by attrition. THAT is the reason. No other.

Actually, it has zero merit. First off, the OP, @Mirice99 has been active here since last July.

Secondly, here's their very first post:

Exactly, Apples business plan is to openly steal what ever they want, while fighting for years in court long after being found guilty.

Followed a couple of months later with:

Sorry if facts hurt those who so blindly devoted to Apple

and...

Cue the overzealous defense of yet another Apple fail in 3..2..1...

There's more besides. In fact, I've not come across one single solitary post where they've even shown that they actually owned an Apple Device at all. Plenty of complaining about Apple, nothing in confirmation that they have ever owned an Apple device of any sort.

For someone who's done a huge amount of complaining about Apple and very little else, not only should they absolutely have known about the 32 Bit app retirement in iOS 11, but I'm not even sure this incident really happened to them; Their posting history would seem that they may come here to moan and do scant little else so it is entirely possible they made all this up just to create what we see today. Not saying they did, just that this feels wrong.

Notice on how absent they have been since they created this thread, for instance.

That all said, I'm personally done with this thread; seems to me it's been done to death and the OP may even be chuckling to themselves over it.

Another reason to add them to my /Ignore list.

 

[negativzero]

I've got tons of paid apps since iPhone OS 2 that weren't updated and now I can't use them.
Boo hoo, OP!