... for about a day.
I’ve taken the advice I got here and lowered the volume on my phone by around 20%, and haven’t seen the notification yet. But it’s still not ideal, I really need full volume sometimes.
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14.2 car volume turns down
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I’ve taken the advice I got here and lowered the volume on my phone by around 20%, and haven’t seen the notification yet. But it’s still not ideal, I really need full volume sometimes.
I never enabled Screen Time since I’m an adult and I don’t use any social media or have troubles regulating what I spend time on.
But now it’s on, can’t wait to try it out!
I stumbled over this today for the first time. It took me a while to trigger it - mostly I use quite efficient wired IEMs that get LOUD even at the middle of the volume bar, and in the car I connect with a Lightning cable that I have told the phone not to regard as headphones. But today I had been exercising with anemic Bluetooth earbuds and suddenly the volume went down. This is infuriating, and I am surprised it has not yet caused more of an outcry.
I have left feedback, and I have cancelled my Apple Music subscription in the hope there would be a please-tell-us-why-box, but to no avail.
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I have left feedback, and I have cancelled my Apple Music subscription in the hope there would be a please-tell-us-why-box, but to no avail.
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I’m actually happy that more people notice this. It must be addressed in a future release.
Quite, but I am twice perplexed - at the lack of judgement behind this "feature", and that there seems to be so little backlash. I mean, I am a bit old fashioned in that I still use wired audio on the iPhone most of the time, but with the prevalence of Bluetooth I would expect most people to crash into this issue before me. Yet so far I have only found this relatively short thread, a longer (but futile) one on the Apple support forum, and a little bit on Reddit.
I know this will sound like typical internet posturing, but I'm usually hovering between mobile ecosystems, and listening to music is such a major use of my devices that this obligatory feature has dropped a downright fatal con onto the Apple-side of my balance of systems. The new iPhone mini had me looking forward to replacing my old SE, and the M1 had piqued my curiosity to add some macOS back into my Linux-household - but that is all on hold now. To me this breaks the iPhone for music, which in turn makes Apple Music irrelevant, and then the whole tight integration appeal of the Apple ecosystem collapses. I really hope Apple fixes this, though the wording in the settings description makes it all sound very much intentional.
Turned up the volume to full this morning with the setting you suggested. Unfortunately the result is the same, after about 10 minutes the volume lowers and the dreaded notification has arrived.
So this suggestion does not work, at least not for me.
I concur, it does not affect the warning behavior for me either. I think that setting change really only does what it says, it greys out the "Reduce Loud Sounds" option, which is not the one that causes the warnings. That would instead be the "Headphone Notifications", which used to be a selectable option, but now it only shows a stats chart without an on/off-switch, and according to its description it is always on.
Horrible for me as well, using an adapter in my car on the AUX plug (as my car doesn't have Bluetooth) and the iPhone believes I am listening to music on headphones! Btw, the excuse of saying "you just have to push the volume to the max on your car audio system rather than on the iPhone to avoid triggering the notification", I will answer 1) quality is degraded when doing so 2) most importantly, I don't want to become deaf when I'm switching back to radio/CD with the max volume!
I think there is a workaround for this particular situation: If you plug an AUX cable into the car, and the other end into the iPhone using a Lightning adapter, then the iPhone will ask you whether you have just connected headphones or something else. Select "Other device", and as far as I can tell you will not be subject to the volume checks. Since this even works with wired headphones (Yes, I lied to Apple!
), I guess it is just a matter of time until all connections will be volume-checked...I’m quite confident that once this becomes a problem for more people, Apple will have to tweak this a bit. It’s a good thought, just not very well executed.I think there is a workaround for this particular situation: If you plug an AUX cable into the car, and the other end into the iPhone using a Lightning adapter, then the iPhone will ask you whether you have just connected headphones or something else. Select "Other device", and as far as I can tell you will not be subject to the volume checks. Since this even works with wired headphones (Yes, I lied to Apple!
I've noticed this for weeks and have been searching every forum for a 100 page thread on why this is happening and how we can't turn it off, and this is one of the two threads I've seen. Headphones going down to 20% every 10 minutes in the gym.
What is this? Happened in the car bluetooth audio as well. This is ridiculous. Why can't we turn this "feature" off?
What is this? Happened in the car bluetooth audio as well. This is ridiculous. Why can't we turn this "feature" off?
Thanks for the advice!I think there is a workaround for this particular situation: If you plug an AUX cable into the car, and the other end into the iPhone using a Lightning adapter, then the iPhone will ask you whether you have just connected headphones or something else. Select "Other device", and as far as I can tell you will not be subject to the volume checks. Since this even works with wired headphones (Yes, I lied to Apple!
Problem being that I need my phone to charge at the same time so Bluetooth is a requirement for music
Is this something that can be changed by changing your home address listing in the contacts app, or use a VPN when doing the update so you don't get a geolocated version of the os?
If someone has a phone on 14.2 or above and is experiencing this issue, I don't think VPN or address is what triggers this "feature". I think it depends on some more static setting e.g which region your phone is set to. Could someone perhaps try changing region in the same menu that you change languag, under settings -> general?
I doubt this will work - people have tried this in the past to circumvent the EU-volume limit, but iPhones differentiate between the (changeable) region setting and the region of sales, i.e. the region the iPhone was made for, basically different hardware with different model number. So going into an EU-iPhone settings and changing the region to Australia will not change it being an EU-iPhone and thus not remove the EU-volume limit. Probably the same here - but might still be worth a try.
Here someone posted a screenshot from their chat with Apple support. According to this it is a permanently-on feature as of 14.2 in Canada, EU, Israel, South Africa, Turkey, Ukraine, UAE, UK, USA. Those who do not have it yet will get it as soon as they reinstall.
I'm looking into jailbreaking now. That in itself was easy enough, since I use an old SE, but where to find this setting...
It seems strange that if this is something in iOS 14.2 there are those with iOS 14.2 that don't have it working the same way. Seems like there would be something else or something more to it.
Does anyone know how to get to these settings I found people on twitter talking about this and some seem to live in the UK and US
If you live in a EU or other country that has this in place, switching to Android will not solve the issue. Any manufacturer, like Samsung, that does business in one of these countries will be forced to do the same thing on their phones. This is an issue with regulators that do feel good BS and don't get called out on it.
I have yet to see any regulation that requires an implementation like Apple's. As far as I can tell it drastically exceeds what is necessary. The old EU volume limit implementation should have been enough, as that is basically what is becoming an international standard.
And even if Android would follow Apple's example, I'd be optimistic that people would find a way to hack this quickly.
I think that is what used to be under Settings/Privacy/Health/Headphone Audio Levels. Now there is just the option to delete collected manually or have it stored for 8 days.