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ninjastyle

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I've been working at my desk today with my replacement iPhone 14 Pro sitting on the charger. Usually, I recharge overnight. It's at 100% battery, 16.0.2, and I've been watching it crash and reboot in front of me all afternoon long. I'm up to 5 or 6 times now. I'm installing 16.1 beta 4 as I write. It already feels like Apple has us running beta software with 16.0.2 in the first place, so why not? Hopefully, I can confirm stability too.

Thank you to richard371, ninjastyle, Kier-XF and others who have led the way on this.
I went through that myself and messages by Kier-XF and others convinced me to try out the beta because I was sick of watching my phone reboot all the time (also thinking it's probably not super healthy for the phone randomly crash/rebooting many times a day). I did some reading on 16.1 beta 4 and couldn't find any major issues, which convinced me to try it. It's been super stable. Looking forward to your feedback but at this time I'm 100% convinced this was a software issue and it has been fixed in 16.1.
 
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iPhone SE2022 was doing this for a lot of people, too. People went through replacements. We never figured out the cause but Apple apparently did because it seems to have ended with one of the updates. My 14 Pro Max was copied off my SE 2022. Knock wood, I’m not having this issue and hope I don’t. I have never used MagSafe or any wireless charging on this phone.

My husband had his go dead and need a reboot once when he tried to use his camera. But he has found no evidence of a kernel panic in the data logs.
 

MarkosXT

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Jul 20, 2011
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Mine just randomly stopped responding, screen went black, wouldn't power down or power up, had to do a force restart. No kernel panic in the logs, hasn't happened again, hope it's not a hardware issue...
 

richard371

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I've been working at my desk today with my replacement iPhone 14 Pro sitting on the charger. Usually, I recharge overnight. It's at 100% battery, 16.0.2, and I've been watching it crash and reboot in front of me all afternoon long. I'm up to 5 or 6 times now. I'm installing 16.1 beta 4 as I write. It already feels like Apple has us running beta software with 16.0.2 in the first place, so why not? Hopefully, I can confirm stability too.

Thank you to richard371, ninjastyle, Kier-XF and others who have led the way on this.
You won’t regret it. It’s way more solid the 16.0.2
 
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zeceajnv

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Sep 27, 2022
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I can confirm the solution is to install ios 16.1 beta 4 rather then changing your phone
4 nights without a single reboot for me, and finally a full iCloud photos sync without a reboot...i got 5 in a row when I done that with 16.0.2

Even though u have to keep in mind a few things:
  • Its still a beta, a bit more info about stability on a beta version here but to keep it short, its semi-stable
  • Keep doing either icloud/itunes backup every day, just to be safe in case the beta bricks your phone*
  • If you don't feel enough confident to install a developer beta version, i suggest you to do one of the following:
  • 3.1 Disable iCloud backup services like photo sync or normal backup and disable background app refresh only when you charge your phone/at night
  • 3.2 If you don't need/use alarm shut down your phone after connecting to power supply

More information here

Additional, side note, apple advisors are not allowed to suggest you to install a beta and they usually don't know wether an issue is fixed or not in a beta unless its actually mentioned in the release notes (and this was not the case)

* Based on my experience, i've installed several times beta version prior the official release and even less stable one (based on the last letter of build number as explained above) and never got any problem
 
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Chemist83

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Sep 21, 2020
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16.1 beta 4 on my 14 Pro Max, restarting fixes it
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donawalt

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I know several posters have now said that 16.1 beta 4 fixes the restart problem, I am assuming the 16.0.3 update that came out today DOES NOT fix it, as 16.1 beta 3 did not fix it either and that would be a later release - correct?
 

Chemist83

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Sep 21, 2020
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I know several posters have now said that 16.1 beta 4 fixes the restart problem, I am assuming the 16.0.3 update that came out today DOES NOT fix it, as 16.1 beta 3 did not fix it either and that would be a later release - correct?
It introduced new bugs for me, like having to reboot the phone to connect my Apple watch Ultra. Could be an Ultra bug as I have had rapid connection drops In the past and had to reboot. The photo I posted of the control center is another. Lools like it’s the Homekit Controls that act up. I enabled and disabled and so far it hasn’t happened again. Might have to turn that feature off.
 

MVDude

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Sep 25, 2022
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I've been working at my desk today with my replacement iPhone 14 Pro sitting on the charger. Usually, I recharge overnight. It's at 100% battery, 16.0.2, and I've been watching it crash and reboot in front of me all afternoon long. I'm up to 5 or 6 times now. I'm installing 16.1 beta 4 as I write. It already feels like Apple has us running beta software with 16.0.2 in the first place, so why not? Hopefully, I can confirm stability too.

Thank you to richard371, ninjastyle, Kier-XF and others who have led the way on this.
Everything has been solid for me with 16.1 beta 4. No more restarts while charging. The only issue I've had is a Subaru app that now hangs at the title screen and won't go further. I have not noticed the increased battery drain that has been mentioned with beta 4 vs beta 3. I'm staying on 16.1 beta 4 until the final 16.1 is released.
 

Chemist83

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Sep 21, 2020
13
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All the 16.1 Beta 4 glitches I experienced are now gone, I think the Apple Watch update helped, and messing with the homekit control center settings also solved that one. The Reobbots were a hassle and they are now gone.
 

Chemist83

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Sep 21, 2020
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Just to be clear - are you saying that you are now running 16.1 b4 and the glitches are gone, or that you are now on 16.0.3?
16.1, I couldn't deal with the rebooting on 16.0.2 and I didn't know that 16.0.3 would be released the day after I installed 16.1. The other glitches I had on 16.1 were only temporary.
 

donawalt

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Sep 10, 2015
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It will be interesting to see if anyone finds the restart problem does or does not go away with 16.0.3 then!
 

Kier-XF

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Nov 17, 2014
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It will be interesting to see if anyone finds the restart problem does or does not go away with 16.0.3 then!
I restored my 14 Pro to 16.0.3 today from 16.1 beta 4, using iPhone-to-iPhone direct transfer so it already has all my photos etc.

It's been connected to power and locked for 4½ hours now and it hasn't rebooted, despite several photos having been scanned.

It's too early to say that 16.0.3 contains the fix that's also in 1.6.1 beta 4, but so far it's looking promising.

I'll post again in the morning (about 12 hours from now) to say whether or not it survived the night. If it does, I think it will be safe to say we have a fix.
 
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thenewiphone

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Sep 18, 2019
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Just wanted to chime in here since I’m seeing a lot of people attribute this bug to iCloud Photos. The two are not related. I do not use and have NEVER used iCloud Photos, and I have experienced the restarting while charging bug almost every time my 14 pro has been connected to power on iOS 16.0.1 and 16.0.2.
 

Kier-XF

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Nov 17, 2014
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Just wanted to chime in here since I’m seeing a lot of people attribute this bug to iCloud Photos. The two are not related. I do not use and have NEVER used iCloud Photos, and I have experienced the restarting while charging bug almost every time my 14 pro has been connected to power on iOS 16.0.1 and 16.0.2.
Just to be clear, it's nothing to do with iCloud photos specifically, but it may well be related to on-device photo analysis, such as face and object recognition.
 

thenewiphone

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Sep 18, 2019
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Just to be clear, it's nothing to do with iCloud photos specifically, but it may well be related to on-device photo analysis, such as face and object recognition.
Maybe. From my experience, the bug is exclusive to the 14 pro devices. I restored my 13 pro from my 14 pro backup (just as an experiment) and left it on the charger quite a few times and it never rebooted while charging on .0.1 and .0.2.

I also haven’t had a random reboot yet on 16.0.3 on my 14 pro so that’s promising, for now at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Kier-XF

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Nov 17, 2014
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Morning update and my 14 Pro has successfully survived the night without a reboot - something it previously did only with 16.1 beta 4.

I can now confidently say that whatever caused the reboot problem, the fix from 16.1 beta 4 is also in 16.0.3. 🎉
 

Jateruy

macrumors newbie
Dec 11, 2017
3
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Burnaby, British Columbia
16.1 b4 14 Pro here. Not sure I have the same issue, but panicking full multiples times a day while not charging. It happens at any moment, could be Face ID unlocking, opening an app, hitting enter with an URL in safari…the panicString property in the ips dump reads “CORE # is the one that panicked. Check the full backtrace for details.”.

Before 16.1 b4 I was on 16.0.2, was also getting occasional full resets but not as frequently. It smells like silicon level soc defect to me. Could be a sign of wrong power condition or something which is making the soc getting worse over charge cycles. Will get genius bar to find out on Friday. I wonder if any of you that are having charging reboot issues could take a look at the panic full analytic dump see what’s written in the panicString. If it also states something to do with core/cpu then I have a feeling that we may be off for a much serious, potentially wider-spread, tsmc 4nm or Foxconn assembly line level of manufacturing defect…
 

Kier-XF

macrumors regular
Nov 17, 2014
183
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16.1 b4 14 Pro here. Not sure I have the same issue, but panicking full multiples times a day while not charging. It happens at any moment, could be Face ID unlocking, opening an app, hitting enter with an URL in safari…the panicString property in the ips dump reads “CORE # is the one that panicked. Check the full backtrace for details.”.

Before 16.1 b4 I was on 16.0.2, was also getting occasional full resets but not as frequently. It smells like silicon level soc defect to me. Could be a sign of wrong power condition or something which is making the soc getting worse over charge cycles. Will get genius bar to find out on Friday. I wonder if any of you that are having charging reboot issues could take a look at the panic full analytic dump see what’s written in the panicString. If it also states something to do with core/cpu then I have a feeling that we may be off for a much serious, potentially wider-spread, tsmc 4nm or Foxconn assembly line level of manufacturing defect…
I'm afraid your issue doesn't sound like it's related to this one at all - this issue happens exclusively when the phone is locked and connected to power. I would be looking to get your phone replaced as your problems sounds more like faulty hardware than the software issue we've all been having.

Nonetheless, here are a collection of panic logs from my three iPhone 14 Pro units running 16.0.2.
 

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