So, it would make sense to switch to 48Hz whenever watching a movie (which is 24fps)?
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So, it would make sense to switch to 48Hz whenever watching a movie (which is 24fps)?
Yes. The system will automatically do do if the player is in full screen mode. Otherwise the entire desktop is composited at 60 Hz (or whatever the refresh is) by the window server.
The player has to use the right API, so
Videos in Safari - yes
Apple TV App - yes
VLC - yes
However, other browsers may not be taking advantage. You can find out by monitoring the power drain while playing video and comaparing full screen with windowed and maximised (to ensure similar window sizes). Use the following free tool:
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget
If you have iStat menus you can use that as well. Another way is run the video for a while and note the energy impact in Activity Monitor, but this is the least accurate method.
Videos in Safari - yes
Apple TV App - yes
VLC - yes
However, other browsers may not be taking advantage. You can find out by monitoring the power drain while playing video and comaparing full screen with windowed and maximised (to ensure similar window sizes). Use the following free tool:
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget
If you have iStat menus you can use that as well. Another way is run the video for a while and note the energy impact in Activity Monitor, but this is the least accurate method.
Well, not that anyone cares but my Y740 arrived and it's excellent. Build quality on midrange Windows machines has come such a long way- disabled the cheesy lighting and it's not a "loud" looking computer at all afterwards. The small battery and physical heft will almost certainly put it out of consideration for many people who would be cross-shopping with the MBP, but for me personally neither of those things matter much as I'm less of a coffee shop warrior and more of a "it will always be plugged in, I just need to be able to move it" type of person. Nice to have a user accessible 2.5" slot as well.
Just FYI I have the LP160WT1-SJA2 and the smearing is very minimal. I compared with a 2012 rMBP which is similar.
Probably because the smearing isn’t that unusual for an LCD and the OP is used to higher refresh rate monitor
The 15" Y740 with the 500-nit display is actually a very nice machine, as you said. I had one recently but the display panel was mis-mounted (tilted slightly), so I had to send it back, but hoping to order another.
Main gripe aside from the small battery was the macro keys on the 15" keyboard. Why they couldn't use the same layout of the 17" model, I have no idea. I would go with the 17", but it only has a software-enabled HDR display at 300-nit, ugh.
However, one thing I came across that might help: you can apparently drop in the very large battery from the 17" model into the 15" if you simply dump the HDD. It's supposed to be a perfect fit. I have a replacement battery I ordered for my Y740, just waiting to order another since I had to send the original unit back.
Can you make the key lighting all one colour? Because I think bright red/crimson on a black laptop gives me knight rider vibes. And I want that.
Indeed, the machine has full RGB with quite a few lighting zones.
That battery idea is tempting... I was also thinking a 2tb sata SSD in that 2.5 slot, though, so I’d have to make a choice. Can you elaborate about your panel QC issue? I definitely am trying to check mine out fully before the return period is up. The only thing I’ve noticed so far is the usual backlight bleed around the edges a bit when displaying a full black screen (like the post splash) but it doesn’t really bother me enough to return and play the panel lottery.
Lol - you expect them to acknowledge this is an issue with all 26 machines? This is well within normal spec - if you want crystal clear scrolling go find a laptop that offers a 120hz display.
Per key as far as I can tell- it goes through Corsair’s iCUE software which is a bit buggy it seems. I can try it out and get back to you if you’re interested. Just let me know and I can PM you to keep off-topic chat on this thread to a minimum.
My full device ID is LP160WT1-SJA2. Mentioned earlier more generally but absolutely no issues with this one, ghosting is 100 percent how it's been on my Late 2013 15" rMBP and my Late 2016 15" TB and the brightness is noticeably a couple notches higher than my outgoing 2016 model. True Tone off, auto brightness off, and no night shift.
Just got my computer. Still there unfortunately.
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I believe it has a lot to do with power consumption / battery life. Going from 50% to 75% power for e.g. just consumes 2-3 extra watts! At that rate, I can run the screen at full brightness with an insignificant reduction to battery life.
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Just opened and set my new MBP up...maxed everything (graphics card, RAM etc).
No ghosting for me, just came from China via FedEx.
No ghosting for me, just came from China via FedEx.
No ghosting what so ever? Can you test the input lag and the ufos?
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Well at the end of the day you can't have it all... Good calibration alongside good colours and lower input lag... I mean there are some good IPS panels out there but really expensive.
could you please prove that with taking and sharing a photo of ufo ghosting test. https://www.testufo.com/ghosting
every one here may claim that he has a . perfect display but the important thing is to prove it
What settings? Just default? And I'm not stating there's NO ghosting, but that the amount of ghosting is absolutely normal for these displays. I will try and get a test on both machines.
Alright, 2016 15":
2019 16 SJA2:
Looks to be within spec to me, if not a tiny bit better on the new machine.
In your test I can see 5 versions of the UFO on the 16" but only 4 on the 15", albeit the 5th is quite faint.
The 16" has a slightly slower response time than the previous model as measured by at least one reviewer.
I'm convinced, for now, that this is due to the extra size of the panel needing slower specs in order for Apple to keep the 10 hour battery claim.
It doesn't bother me at all. It's a great machine regardless.
thanks for your effort and kindness.Your sample is same as my display which i except that has ghosting problem