Hmmmm.joshwest said:
The policy at my local CompUSA is that once you open a laptop, you have 21 days to exchange it or return it ... for a store credit.
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The policy at my local CompUSA is that once you open a laptop, you have 21 days to exchange it or return it ... for a store credit.
knifegun said:
Here we go, just as I am getting ready to order a 17" MBP
I hope we do not have more coming up and confirming this. I returned my 15" PB because of the faint lines in the display. I do not want a repeat of that.I ordered mine and now, I'm kind of 'verry worried' about the different screen issues ... Plus that, it's a custom order (2 G - memory) so it seems that the return policy does not apply.
Can you imagine that, we are spending so much money and we are affraid to open the box now, not normal !!!
Can you imagine that, we are spending so much money and we are affraid to open the box now, not normal !!!
DeJa Vu All Over Again - Fall of 2003 RE-RUN
This happened in Fall of 2003 with many of the first Aluminum 15" PM 1.25 GHz models. Wasn't resolved until December. Thousands were affected. I can't believe they are letting it happen again.knifegun said:
IMHO thats probably one of the bigger "cons" of outsourcing manufacturing. QA is harder to nail down. Turnover is probably horrendous at those outsourced places. The manufacturer of the MacBook Pro's probably didn't build the first AlBooks, so has no experience with that issue.
Oh well. I miss Apple's Cork and Oak Grove plants. Do they still build anything at those places if at all?
Oh well. I miss Apple's Cork and Oak Grove plants. Do they still build anything at those places if at all?
HOT & WHINING MBP's, EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO KNOW- & APPLE WILL FIX IT!
I'm glad that I've been reading this forum about the new 17" MBP & learning about some of the various 'problems' or conditions that you folks are experiencing. Like whining & getting real hot. I checked out the Web to see what I could find regarding these & other negative issues about this great new notebook. It turns out that Apple, Inc. has acknowledged these problems as 'truly' existing, they're just not telling most owners, of the brand new big buck notebooks, about it. Personally, I really like Apple & have used them ever since my Apple IIGS, but after you've spent thousands of dollars on one of their notebooks, they should be telling 'you' that there's a problem.
As it turns out, Apple's made 4 revisions to the main motherboard. If you don't have a Revision D board, you're operating with some known problems, in your brand new MBP. I'll supply you with some web pages that'll pretty much tell you the whole story. From reading these web pages, it appears that Apple, Inc will fix it for you by installing the Revision D board, if you tell them that you have all the problems; of course, we wouldn't want to 'fib' just to get the latest Rev. D motherboard that fixes 'all' the problems, would we? Some of the pages said that Apple would use overnight shipping to get it from & back to you quickly!
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/4/4/3456
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/986008198731
http://www.macnn.com/articles/06/04/04/macbook.pro.issues.solved/
NOW, MAYBE ONE OF YOU CAN HELP ME-
I haven't ordered my 17'' MBP yet. Apple was supposed to release more notebooks this past Tuesday, 5-9-06, maybe some '2nd generation' MBP's. The date has been changed to next Tuesday, 5-16-06. I'm disabled & can't afford to buy a new notebook very often- I use it in bed. Does anybody have any 'crystal ball' knowledge of what the new notebook changes are supposed to be? THANKS
I'm glad that I've been reading this forum about the new 17" MBP & learning about some of the various 'problems' or conditions that you folks are experiencing. Like whining & getting real hot. I checked out the Web to see what I could find regarding these & other negative issues about this great new notebook. It turns out that Apple, Inc. has acknowledged these problems as 'truly' existing, they're just not telling most owners, of the brand new big buck notebooks, about it. Personally, I really like Apple & have used them ever since my Apple IIGS, but after you've spent thousands of dollars on one of their notebooks, they should be telling 'you' that there's a problem.
As it turns out, Apple's made 4 revisions to the main motherboard. If you don't have a Revision D board, you're operating with some known problems, in your brand new MBP. I'll supply you with some web pages that'll pretty much tell you the whole story. From reading these web pages, it appears that Apple, Inc will fix it for you by installing the Revision D board, if you tell them that you have all the problems; of course, we wouldn't want to 'fib' just to get the latest Rev. D motherboard that fixes 'all' the problems, would we? Some of the pages said that Apple would use overnight shipping to get it from & back to you quickly!
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/4/4/3456
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/986008198731
http://www.macnn.com/articles/06/04/04/macbook.pro.issues.solved/
NOW, MAYBE ONE OF YOU CAN HELP ME-
I haven't ordered my 17'' MBP yet. Apple was supposed to release more notebooks this past Tuesday, 5-9-06, maybe some '2nd generation' MBP's. The date has been changed to next Tuesday, 5-16-06. I'm disabled & can't afford to buy a new notebook very often- I use it in bed. Does anybody have any 'crystal ball' knowledge of what the new notebook changes are supposed to be? THANKS
hidea said:
What do you mean by receive? What brought out the whine do you think? Is it when the power is connected or at all times?
I think the revision D is referring to the 15 inch, that's what those three links say. Also, it is nice to know that the MBPs manufactured after week 12 in production aren't displaying the mentioned issues (heat, whining, etc.) It looks like the one I just ordered will be fine. *whew* that's a relief...
Problem is, almost all of the posts from people who have sent their MBP in for repair have been that the MBPs are coming back not totally repaired. AFAIK, only the LCD buzz has a fix. No help for the processor whine or the heat.LaRock2 said:
As for this Tuesday, I think it's been moved to Thursday.
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/05/20060512133552.shtml
If laptops are announced, everyone's expecting it to be the new iBooks (expected to be called MacBooks). I haven't heard anyone talking about second generation MBPs.
What does "after week 12" look like as a serial number? I just returned a W8614 because of heat issues.crazydrumma said:
2nd Gen MBP Will Be Merom In August-September Release Time
Surely you have been reading about the Merom 64-bit MBPs expected shortly after Intel ships Merom processors in August right?aristobrat said:Problem is, almost all of the posts from people who have sent their MBP in for repair have been that the MBPs are coming back not totally repaired. AFAIK, only the LCD buzz has a fix. No help for the processor whine or the heat.
As for this Tuesday, I think it's been moved to Thursday.
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/05/20060512133552.shtml
If laptops are announced, everyone's expecting it to be the new iBooks (expected to be called MacBooks). I haven't heard anyone talking about second generation MBPs.
I meant "no 2nd generation MBPs" in regards to next weeks announcement.Multimedia said:Surely you have been reading about the Merom 64-bit MBPs expected shortly after Intel ships Merom processors in August right?
Arriving today
My 17" MBP 2G Ram 7200 RPM HD is due to be delivered today... What's the best way of translfering emails, preferences, bookmarks, ect... from my old PB to my new MBP?
My 17" MBP 2G Ram 7200 RPM HD is due to be delivered today... What's the best way of translfering emails, preferences, bookmarks, ect... from my old PB to my new MBP?
Setup Assistant FireWire Copying Data From PB to MBP
If you have a 6 to 6 pin FireWire cable, during the original startup of your MBP, the new Mac's Setup Assistant will prompt you to connect them and boot the PB in Target Disc mode by holding down the T key. Then it will automatically copy all that stuff from your PB to your MBP.iwamas said:
Just Got It!!!!
Just got my new 17" MBP... Man!!! this thing is a beauty.... I am so happy with it at first glance, no pixel problems, no unwaranted noises, no screen latch problems... The thing is quiet as a mouse... Now, i need to clean install and shift my preferences from my old PB to this beast.... Anyone considering buying one, but hesitant.... don't be... This thing is amazing!!!
Just got my new 17" MBP... Man!!! this thing is a beauty.... I am so happy with it at first glance, no pixel problems, no unwaranted noises, no screen latch problems... The thing is quiet as a mouse... Now, i need to clean install and shift my preferences from my old PB to this beast.... Anyone considering buying one, but hesitant.... don't be... This thing is amazing!!!
Clean Install
Just finished my clean install... Saved about 9.9GB off of the original factory installation... no wierd noises or excessive heat... so far this machine is an absolute beauty....
Next step... transfering previous preferences and files....
Hardest part will be not using for 5 hours during the battery calibration process.... but I guess it's a small price to pay....
P.S. the screen seems as tight as my old PB. I can view it at any angle without it closing due to wheight issues...
Just finished my clean install... Saved about 9.9GB off of the original factory installation... no wierd noises or excessive heat... so far this machine is an absolute beauty....
Next step... transfering previous preferences and files....
Hardest part will be not using for 5 hours during the battery calibration process.... but I guess it's a small price to pay....
P.S. the screen seems as tight as my old PB. I can view it at any angle without it closing due to wheight issues...
Congratulations! Glad You Got A Good One.
So if you don't mind coming back here to report no problems over time that would help us understand better that most of these units do not go bad.
What's the "Calibraiton Process" that keeps you from using the computer for 5 hours? Is it explained in the documentation that came with it or is it something you learned on line and would you please describe it?
Screen brightness is even? Let's see how it goes over the next week. Some of the reports appear to indicate that the problems creep into these units over time. Let's hope you prove those reports to be rare anomolies.iwamas said:Just finished my clean install... Saved about 9.9GB off of the original factory installation... no wierd noises or excessive heat... so far this machine is an absolute beauty....
Next step... transfering previous preferences and files....
Hardest part will be not using for 5 hours during the battery calibration process.... but I guess it's a small price to pay....
P.S. the screen seems as tight as my old PB. I can view it at any angle without it closing due to wheight issues...
So if you don't mind coming back here to report no problems over time that would help us understand better that most of these units do not go bad.What's the "Calibraiton Process" that keeps you from using the computer for 5 hours? Is it explained in the documentation that came with it or is it something you learned on line and would you please describe it?
Callibration
I am on here daily... just not always posting... Screen brightness looks even to me, even with a solid background color... I will however keep everyone abreast on whether or not any issues creep up... as for the callibration process.... according to the official MBP userguide (and on apple's website):
Calibrating Your Battery
To get the longest running time from your battery, calibrate it sometime during the first week you have your MacBook Pro and recalibrate occasionally to keep your battery functioning at its fullest capacity.
To calibrate your battery:
1 Plug in the power adapter and fully charge your MacBook Pro battery until the light on the power adapter plug changes to green and the Battery icon in the menu bar indicates that the battery is fully charged.
2 Allow the battery to rest in the fully charged state for two hours or longer. You may use your computer during this time as long as the adapter is plugged in.
3 Disconnect the power adapter with the MacBook Pro on and start running it from the battery. You may use your computer during this time. When your battery gets low, you’ll see the low battery warning dialog on the screen.
4 Continue to keep your computer turned on until it goes to sleep. Save your work and close all applications when the battery gets low and before the system goes to sleep.
5 Turn off the computer or allow it to sleep for five hours or longer.
6 Connect the power adapter and leave it connected until the battery is fully charged again.
Step number 5 is what i was refering to...
I am on here daily... just not always posting... Screen brightness looks even to me, even with a solid background color... I will however keep everyone abreast on whether or not any issues creep up... as for the callibration process.... according to the official MBP userguide (and on apple's website):
Calibrating Your Battery
To get the longest running time from your battery, calibrate it sometime during the first week you have your MacBook Pro and recalibrate occasionally to keep your battery functioning at its fullest capacity.
To calibrate your battery:
1 Plug in the power adapter and fully charge your MacBook Pro battery until the light on the power adapter plug changes to green and the Battery icon in the menu bar indicates that the battery is fully charged.
2 Allow the battery to rest in the fully charged state for two hours or longer. You may use your computer during this time as long as the adapter is plugged in.
3 Disconnect the power adapter with the MacBook Pro on and start running it from the battery. You may use your computer during this time. When your battery gets low, you’ll see the low battery warning dialog on the screen.
4 Continue to keep your computer turned on until it goes to sleep. Save your work and close all applications when the battery gets low and before the system goes to sleep.
5 Turn off the computer or allow it to sleep for five hours or longer.
6 Connect the power adapter and leave it connected until the battery is fully charged again.
Step number 5 is what i was refering to...
iwamas said:
Is this only with the MPB, or with all mac laptops? I don't remember doing this with my iBook, and I usually get 5-6 hours of usage under normal conditions.
dextertangocci said:
According to Apple's website, what I had described is only for the following:
PowerBook G4 (15-inch Double-Layer SD), MacBook Pro, and MacBook Pro (17-inch)
IBooks and other powerbooks, had a different and easier callibration process which only required one to charge the battery to a fully charged state, and then drain it completely.
FYI... here is a link to the article I am refering to...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86284