Surely it's important to "read between the lines". The new team is reportedly comprised of businessmen almost through and through, unlike the previous situation. From the article:
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Surely it's important to "read between the lines". The new team is reportedly comprised of businessmen almost through and through, unlike the previous situation. From the article:
Also,
Then,
uplock is really an addon to apple passwords which allow you to store stuff apple passwords cant so he really only got 2 and a half lol
Uplock
Uplock is a fast, secure, privacy-first app for iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, and Apple Vision Pro that keeps your IDs, credit cards, passwords, secure notes, and other sensitive documents safe. Everything lives on your device and syncs over iCloud with end-to-end encryption—with no accounts...uplock.app
I guess its only time before Apple buys him out
i looked into that. it just clickbait by fastcompany. every thing they reported was an err on Bitwarden side (so far), nothing to do with the direction the company is going to take.
MisterSavage
macrumors 603
This link from the Reddit link makes me feel better about the situation
bitwarden.com
My first 100 days at Bitwarden | Bitwarden
My first 100 days at Bitwarden from the CEO
Alpha Centauri
macrumors 68000
Well hopefully. I tried a few and returned to 1 Password but we end users rely on competition with all products, so I'm happy to have read that article in the nature it was intended.This link from the Reddit link makes me feel better about the situation
My first 100 days at Bitwarden | Bitwarden
My first 100 days at Bitwarden from the CEO
Quite brave though, going forward to mention that Bitwarden will always have a free version. Even then with a change of leadership...and always. But perhaps I'm rather a pessimist, or realist. Let's hope that the heading of "what lies ahead" is not literal in any way.
Alvinc
macrumors member
They have been liars over years.
The recent lie was the price increase: saying old customers would not be affected (but impacted a month or two later).
Not only 1Password, many independent companies saying they are anti-VC can be like 1Password funded by VCs someday.
QuarterSwede
macrumors G4
That was a well written piece that knocks out some of the criticism. Of course, only if he can be trusted, which remains to be seen.This link from the Reddit link makes me feel better about the situation
My first 100 days at Bitwarden | Bitwarden
My first 100 days at Bitwarden from the CEO
Alpha Centauri
macrumors 68000
Everyone lies. Presidents, global leaders, CEO's, COF's, GM's , heck...anyone and everyone during their term of office. I've seen enough of it during various careers that, promises or policies disappeared as quick as the folks making them have disappeared to a more promising financial path. That's kind of the point I was trying to make before. That promises live and die with the individual that publishes them...but only at that time.
Alpha Centauri
macrumors 68000
He can probably be trusted whilst making this statement, in the position he is in...until he's not.
DCIFRTHS
macrumors 68000
There's the potential the free version could lose features going forward - he would still be keeping his "promise". I'm not saying this is going to happen, but it's a possibility.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
Playing the devil's advocate, what's in it for BW to spend a lot of money giving their one and only product away, hoping that enterprise subscriptions offset the costs?
I do foresee a day where the free tier is curtailed, lacking in features or is not updated as frequently as a paid tier, or even down right removed.
I do foresee a day where the free tier is curtailed, lacking in features or is not updated as frequently as a paid tier, or even down right removed.
I don't see them canceling a free version but if they have malicious intent, they might limit the free version so people move to the paid version. In any case, Bitwarden was built from the start to be FOSS and directed towards enterprise. Their consumer offering is free advertising to them plus it makes a little extra money from the pro subscribers which i am.
IIRC, I remember they lied when they said they will keep the license one time pay version then pulled it out.
The latest is Kagi.com, they played the role that they are bootstrapped and their subscribers are their only customers. When they got some momentum they accepted investors money albeit they say it won't affect the company's direction and offering (en********ation didn't happen yet with them)
From a capitalist point of view, they don't. Heck, 1password had a paid offering (license) and they pulled that out for their more profitable subscription model. So I would assume its possible Bitwarden would do such a thing, or what is worse to me, is tighten the free offering so much so they force you to pay for the paid version (silly stuff like limited to 10 enteries, no local sync, etc)
eltoslightfoot
macrumors 68040
Thank you, that does help.This link from the Reddit link makes me feel better about the situation
My first 100 days at Bitwarden | Bitwarden
My first 100 days at Bitwarden from the CEO
not really. lots of companies have an ethical standard they live by. For example , proton has free tiers for VPN and emails. ControlD (cloud based dns filter) has free dns blockers for malware and ads. Not every business looks to squeeze every last drop out of their customers.
Why do you feel entitled to free software and services?
Well, for one thing, assuming following this line of question that you’re talking about Bitwarden, Bitwarden is open source…
svenmany
macrumors 68030
Are you saying that you feel entitled software without a charge if it is open source? I can imagine that the people who actually contributed to an open source project might deserve some discount, but I wouldn't feel deserving otherwise.
That’s *literally* how opensource works, yes… the whole point is it’s open and free…
you can go download the code and run it, right now.
Looks like they’re using the AGPL for most of their code, which is literally a copyleft license that requires release of derivative code used in products/SaaS services as well. And while their license for some commercial modules is more restrictive it’s not most of what’s there
BW’s repos are on gh, here: https://github.com/bitwarden
My question wasn’t limited to Bitwarden (BW), as MacBH928 mentions several applications. Regarding BW, you don't seem to understand how it is developed. For my convenience, I’ll give you an AI-generated answer how BW works:
“Yes, Bitwarden develops its own software entirely in-house. The company owns and maintains its full open-source codebase, which includes the core backend server, browser extensions, desktop applications, mobile apps, command-line interface (CLI), and Secrets Manager SDK.
In-House Engineering: Bitwarden employs a dedicated engineering team that builds, tests, and releases all client and server components on their own development cycles.
Open Source Transparency: The code for every product is publicly available on GitHub, allowing the community to review, audit, and contribute to the development process.
Custom Technologies: The team selects and integrates specific technologies such as C#, Rust, Swift, and Kotlin to build their proprietary security features and cross-platform infrastructure.”
bogdanw
macrumors G3
ByteHaven: "The Quiet Renovation at Bitwarden" https://blog.ppb1701.com/the-quiet-renovation-at-bitwarden
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
From proton
proton.me
So lit looks like Proton Pass is providing tools to enhance your privacy related to AI agents - not sure exactly how this works, but it seems its being received rather positively over on reddit - which in of itself is a surprice
reddit proton announcement.
Proton Pass: A password manager for AI agents | Proton
Proton Pass access tokens let you share credentials with AI agents securely. Granular permissions, time limits, and full audit logs. You stay in control.
proton.me
So lit looks like Proton Pass is providing tools to enhance your privacy related to AI agents - not sure exactly how this works, but it seems its being received rather positively over on reddit - which in of itself is a surprice
reddit proton announcement.
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DCIFRTHS
macrumors 68000
What you attached is showing as a white box at the end of your post on my phone.From proton
Proton Pass: A password manager for AI agents | Proton
Proton Pass access tokens let you share credentials with AI agents securely. Granular permissions, time limits, and full audit logs. You stay in control.
So lit looks like Proton Pass is providing tools to enhance your privacy related to AI agents - not sure exactly how this works, but it seems its being received rather positively over on reddit - which in of itself is a surprice
Is this happening to anyone else here on iOS 25.6?
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maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
Weird
I edited the post, so instead of just pasting the URL into the post directly, i made it a link that should work
Btw, looking at it on my phone, had the same white box, looking at on my computer had the typical preview that shows up when pasting a link
I don't, but doing the "bait and switch" method is shady and scammy . When a business gives a free offering and when they build a user base they pull it out to force payments, I do not consider that a honorable business practice.
I do not mind paying for foss. as a matter of fact i think every should pay something for it. The problem is that since is open source, you cant force people to pay for it. Its literally out there for you to compile, reproduce, and redistribute without control. So, it goes back to consumer behavior , and unfortunately, most people think "free software"is done by magic elfs. They do not consider dropping just 1 buck for it. Meanwhile the developer was enough to give it free to those who can't afford/unable to do an online payment but those who can should to fund the project and reward the developer.
in an ironic situation, I indeed wanted to donate to open source projects but they were not accepting donations! Ublock Origin and Handbrake comes to mind.