1Password migrants thread

[macintoshmac]

Yeah... That was my dilemma. I needed to accommodate both. So I opted for Enpass.

Enpass will have a hook into your Apple ID even if you stop using it now.

Cannot delete iCloud file xxxx.in.sinew.Walletx

Hello, Many years ago, I installed Enpass on my mac. Afterwards, I stopped using it. I think it was on version 5 or maybe earlier. And probably made from another hard drive or another mac, not this one. Today, after a clean install, I saw this on my iCloud account (files) I tried to install, agai...

discussion.enpass.io

I had installed the app before the helpful member had posted about this here on MR. I would not have, if I had known about this. This points to shoddy coding, and you do not want that in a password manager, because then you wonder, what else is poorly coded?

 

[rforno]

I'm leaning towards MacPass (or equivalent) with my vault stored in my encrypted drive 'in the cloud' so I can sync between my various computers, as I've been doing with 1Password 7 standalone. (I don't let my phone have access to all my passwords, so I don't care about IOS availability)

 

[macsplusmacs]

Same here.

family plan not being used by the family.

I have been on SafeinCloud for a week. pretty seemless. I have not moved my passwords over from 1pass. will soon.

 

[tosbsas]

same here safeincloud

Same here.

family plan not being used by the family.

I have been on SafeinCloud for a week. pretty seemless. I have not moved my passwords over from 1pass. will soon.

 

[Traverse]

I know 1Password 8 will be subscription only, but are they removing the ability to sync locally over your network? I don’t mind the subscription, but I don’t want to sync to their system.

 

[bradl]

I have been on SafeinCloud for a week. pretty seemless. I have not moved my passwords over from 1pass. will soon.

same here safeincloud

I think the main reservations people have about SafeInCloud is the developer. It looks to be a single developer, and no-one knows where he is located. People are basing his nationality on his browser use, so that remains iffy. Otherwise, it looks to be a solid alternative.

I know 1Password 8 will be subscription only, but are they removing the ability to sync locally over your network? I don’t mind the subscription, but I don’t want to sync to their system.

Yes. From what I've read, they are removing the use of local vaults in 1Password 8, so 1P7 will be the last version to support it.

BL.

 

[macsplusmacs]

Hmm. I don't like that aspect. no problems with singles devs, but they have to be open about where they are and stuff.

 

[macsplusmacs]

Going to try secrets for a week. single dev, but he used to work at apple it seems.

 

[bradl]

Hmm. I don't like that aspect. no problems with singles devs, but they have to be open about where they are and stuff.

Yeah.. also, in looking at their website, there are only 2 languages for it: English and Russian. There isn't much about him on the SiC Youtube channel or the SiC Facebook page, though he's very active on both.

BL.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Yet another shambolic take your money and hope for the best and expect the worst situation for users.

 

[MacBH928]

So far the nicest ones it seems to be SafeinCloud, StrongBox, and Enpass. SafeInCloud problem is that its a 1 man show.

I just paid the 10 bucks a year for bitwarden. I have to say, this is really nice. I am not opposed to subs that are reasonably priced for what you get. This is one of those. 1password's prices? No.

The real reason its worth paying for Bitwarden is that its open source, but so is KeePassCX but I do not know why Bitwarden is more popular.

Bitwarden doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. The same goes for Strongbox. I think many just automatically go with 1password because of forum tradition.

Strongbox is Apple only, if it was not I might consider it.

Enpass will have a hook into your Apple ID even if you stop using it now.

Cannot delete iCloud file xxxx.in.sinew.Walletx

Hello, Many years ago, I installed Enpass on my mac. Afterwards, I stopped using it. I think it was on version 5 or maybe earlier. And probably made from another hard drive or another mac, not this one. Today, after a clean install, I saw this on my iCloud account (files) I tried to install, agai...

discussion.enpass.io

I had installed the app before the helpful member had posted about this here on MR. I would not have, if I had known about this. This points to shoddy coding, and you do not want that in a password manager, because then you wonder, what else is poorly coded?

I think maybe we are giving Enpass a hard time, all software has bugs.

 

[macintoshmac]

I think maybe we are giving Enpass a hard time, all software has bugs.

I agree, but this one is not fixed in years and the attitude towards the bug seems like this is going to be the case in future. But even then, why should a software be able to look me up with email all my life just because I used it once? That is the issue here.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I know 1Password 8 will be subscription only, but are they removing the ability to sync locally over your network? I don’t mind the subscription, but I don’t want to sync to their system.

If you don't want to have to sync to their system etc., it would be a good idea to look at alternatives.

 

[WelshDog]

I agree, but this one is not fixed in years and the attitude towards the bug seems like this is going to be the case in future. But even then, why should a software be able to look me up with email all my life just because I used it once? That is the issue here.

The file can be "deactivated" by going you your iCloud account on Safari. Then Account Settings, scroll down to "Manage Apps That Can Look You Up". You will then see the in.sinew.walletx file. There is a hard to see box on the left that should be unselected. If it is unselected then no one can look you up via that file or Enpass. I had stopped syncing and deleted my data inside Enpass and that process had already turned off access to that file.

It took me two minutes to find this information. Sure it would be nice if we could delete that file, but if it was easy it would have happened. This is very likely an Apple thing that they do not want to change.

I just switched to Enpass from 1Password and am pretty happy. This week they added WiFi sync and it works very nicely. So that is why I have turned off iCloud sync. Now my files stay on my computer. I also keep very sensitive data in a separate vault that does not sync even to WiFi (nor did it sync to the cloud).

People are way too worried about this one file.

 

[macintoshmac]

The file can be "deactivated" by going you your iCloud account on Safari. Then Account Settings, scroll down to "Manage Apps That Can Look You Up". You will then see the in.sinew.walletx file. There is a hard to see box on the left that should be unselected. If it is unselected then no one can look you up via that file or Enpass. I had stopped syncing and deleted my data inside Enpass and that process had already turned off access to that file.

It took me two minutes to find this information. Sure it would be nice if we could delete that file, but if it was easy it would have happened. This is very likely an Apple thing that they do not want to change.

I just switched to Enpass from 1Password and am pretty happy. This week they added WiFi sync and it works very nicely. So that is why I have turned off iCloud sync. Now my files stay on my computer. I also keep very sensitive data in a separate vault that does not sync even to WiFi (nor did it sync to the cloud).

People are way too worried about this one file.

I know that and did that long back. The presence of that one damn file for the first time in years of using iCloud kinda works up the OCD if you will. 😅

 

[macintoshmac]

I also keep very sensitive data in a separate vault that does not sync even to WiFi (nor did it sync to the cloud).

I suppose you aren’t going to share with us what it is, correct? 🤣

 

[bradl]

So far the nicest ones it seems to be SafeinCloud, StrongBox, and Enpass. SafeInCloud problem is that its a 1 man show.

If that's the case, then Secrets suffers from the same problem.

BL.

 

[piattj]

KeepassXC. Free. Open Source. Reliable. Cloudable (eg in iCloud).

 

[dukefan71]

Long time 1Password user here and still hoping for the best, although what's going on with them feels a lot what happened with Crashplan several years ago. I'll throw a vote in for Bitwarden though; it is very feature rich if not as polished as 1Password.

 

[MacBH928]

If you don't want to have to sync to their system etc., it would be a good idea to look at alternatives.

I heard some seriously scary thing and that GPUs can attempt a million times per second to force brute a file, so if any one get a hold of your passwords file due to some "breach" .... i do not know how long it will be before they crack it open.

Just passing what I heard, I do not know the truth.

The file can be "deactivated" by going you your iCloud account on Safari. Then Account Settings, scroll down to "Manage Apps That Can Look You Up". You will then see the in.sinew.walletx file. There is a hard to see box on the left that should be unselected. If it is unselected then no one can look you up via that file or Enpass. I had stopped syncing and deleted my data inside Enpass and that process had already turned off access to that file.

It took me two minutes to find this information. Sure it would be nice if we could delete that file, but if it was easy it would have happened. This is very likely an Apple thing that they do not want to change.

I just switched to Enpass from 1Password and am pretty happy. This week they added WiFi sync and it works very nicely. So that is why I have turned off iCloud sync. Now my files stay on my computer. I also keep very sensitive data in a separate vault that does not sync even to WiFi (nor did it sync to the cloud).

People are way too worried about this one file.

Great news! Enpass is my destination. Albeit the fact that it is closed source, keeps one suspicious. Privacy and trust is very rare now days.

If that's the case, then Secrets suffers from the same problem.

BL.

Yeah, I dont know, I just don't feel comfortable trusting all my passwords to a 1 guy. You don't want him messing up the code one day when he is too tired or drunk and release the update, and now your passwords are locked forever due to a bug in the app.

KeepassXC. Free. Open Source. Reliable. Cloudable (eg in iCloud).

You can go that route and its an option, but the GUI is too cluttered. Open Source software always have this issue. Just compare 1password to Keepasscx.

Long time 1Password user here and still hoping for the best, although what's going on with them feels a lot what happened with Crashplan several years ago. I'll throw a vote in for Bitwarden though; it is very feature rich if not as polished as 1Password.

The idea is to make a statement against going subscription. If only few apps were subscription then that might be fine but everything out there is going subscription, needs a credit card, create an account, also closed source software...come on. Even stupid simple stuff like weather and a to do list app 🤣

I will be honest if 1password was the only app requiring subscription I might have considered it.

 

[Rendergroup]

Very interesting info after 7 pages 😬

Have you ever hear, read any comment about this program: mSecure? looks interesting...

 

[MacBH928]

Very interesting info after 7 pages 😬

Have you ever hear, read any comment about this program: mSecure? looks interesting...

yes its been discussed previously here.

 

[chickenpiccata]

Very interesting info after 7 pages 😬

Have you ever hear, read any comment about this program: mSecure? looks interesting...

I just took a look at mSecure. I liked what I saw. Definitely not dead, as some theorized earlier in this thread. It supports syncing with iCloud, Dropbox, Wifi, or their own servers.

Currently it is $20 for version 5 Pro, one-time, supports all features on all devices.

I see some complaints on the web about their support, but I like that they respond to negative reviews in the AppStore and that they actively respond on their forum.

They are on the verge of releasing v6, which will be a subscription model, but they say that owners of v5 Pro will be transferred into the Gold level and retain all features that currently exist. They also say that this grandfathering may not last indefinitely. Except for beta testers, more details about the new subscription model and its levels have not apparently been released. The latest discussion is here:

mSecure 6

In a recent reply on the Feature Requests section of the Forum it was announced that mSecure 6 would be available soon and that major enhancements we have been waiting for would not be implemented in mSecure 5. Will mSecure 6 be considered a completely new product? Will existing customers be...

support.msecure.com

(They also seem to be a bit more upfront about what they are doing and why than AgileBits is/has been).

I respect everyone's personal choices with regards to payment for software. I tend to agree with one poster in the above-linked thread. If a company lives off one-time purchases, it must always be chasing new customers. That can lead to feature bloat and/or lack of support for existing customers. If customers pay only for upgrades, there again it leads to feature bloat, unnecessary redesigns, etc. There are certainly some companies that have done well with these models, from a consumer's point of view. And many that haven't.

Subscription fees give a company a relatively dependable revenue source. As a consumer, of course, one has to trust that the revenue will be used wisely from that perspective. I'm going to give mSecure a serious look.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I just took a look at mSecure. I liked what I saw. Definitely not dead, as some theorized earlier in this thread. It supports syncing with iCloud, Dropbox, Wifi, or their own servers.

Currently it is $20 for version 5 Pro, one-time, supports all features on all devices.

I see some complaints on the web about their support, but I like that they respond to negative reviews in the AppStore and that they actively respond on their forum.

They are on the verge of releasing v6, which will be a subscription model, but they say that owners of v5 Pro will be transferred into the Gold level and retain all features that currently exist. They also say that this grandfathering may not last indefinitely. Except for beta testers, more details about the new subscription model and its levels have not apparently been released. The latest discussion is here:

mSecure 6

In a recent reply on the Feature Requests section of the Forum it was announced that mSecure 6 would be available soon and that major enhancements we have been waiting for would not be implemented in mSecure 5. Will mSecure 6 be considered a completely new product? Will existing customers be...

support.msecure.com

(They also seem to be a bit more upfront about what they are doing and why than AgileBits is/has been).

I respect everyone's personal choices with regards to payment for software. I tend to agree with one poster in the above-linked thread. If a company lives off one-time purchases, it must always be chasing new customers. That can lead to feature bloat and/or lack of support for existing customers. If customers pay only for upgrades, there again it leads to feature bloat, unnecessary redesigns, etc. There are certainly some companies that have done well with these models, from a consumer's point of view. And many that haven't.

Subscription fees give a company a relatively dependable revenue source. As a consumer, of course, one has to trust that the revenue will be used wisely from that perspective. I'm going to give mSecure a serious look.

mSecure is actually $15 once you click on the buy button.

 

[macsplusmacs]

mSecure is actually $15 once you click on the buy button.

Do you know if it is a native app?

thx