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2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X El Capitan
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El Capitan, presently 10.11.6, will be the final OS X release to function on a Mac Pro 2,1. Newer releases require processor features these models do not support.
Trying to upgrade my Mac Pro 1 1 now 2 1, to run 10.11.6
I have upgraded my chips to 8 cores. Upgraded firmware to 2 1.
I have scowrd 40 pages on this thread trying to figure this out.
Because I am currently running 10.6.8 and was unable to get a disk image of 10.11.6 I was forced to upgrade without a usb by using Pikers installer. The installer gets me to 10.11.4. Systems runs fine but because I am not on 10.11.6 I am unable to install a bunch of programs (iMovie, Davinci).
If I upgrade it through the App Store to 10.11.6 it won’t boot the new drive I have installed El Capitan on.... even if I refix all the boot.efi’s.
I was able to finally fine a disk image of 10.11.6 but when I do the restore the new drive doesnt show as bootable in the startup screen.
How do I get this thing to 10.11.6?
Any advice is welcome.
I have upgraded my chips to 8 cores. Upgraded firmware to 2 1.
I have scowrd 40 pages on this thread trying to figure this out.
Because I am currently running 10.6.8 and was unable to get a disk image of 10.11.6 I was forced to upgrade without a usb by using Pikers installer. The installer gets me to 10.11.4. Systems runs fine but because I am not on 10.11.6 I am unable to install a bunch of programs (iMovie, Davinci).
If I upgrade it through the App Store to 10.11.6 it won’t boot the new drive I have installed El Capitan on.... even if I refix all the boot.efi’s.
I was able to finally fine a disk image of 10.11.6 but when I do the restore the new drive doesnt show as bootable in the startup screen.
How do I get this thing to 10.11.6?
Any advice is welcome.
Go back a page and read my post 4167
Or go back to page 56 and read my post 1391 (my signature below has links)
Or go back to page 1 and read post 1
So I had noticed a while back some people trying to update to security update 2018-002 and tinkering with the kernel to make that work. Is it worth messing with that or should I just leave well enough alone since my 10.11.6 Mac Pro 1,1 is running perfectly fine?
If its running smoothly with the 2017 security updates, I'd leave well alone. Very little to be gained from doing that!
The new iTunes update (12.7.5.9) appears safe to install. No continuous reboot issues so far to report, at least on my own Pikified Mac Pro 2,1 running El Capitan 10.11.6.
A very quick search of this thread turns up these posts.Anybody tried the 2018-003 security update?
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/5736301/?q=2018-003&t=post&o=date&c[thread]=1890435
No issues with either the new Safari or iTunes updates on my 2,1, but won't be going near 2018-003 for obvious reasons!
After creating a fresh backup and making sure efi protection is in place, I installed SU 2018-003. I let it restart normally, just in case Apple had a litte surprise for us, but nope, boot loop.
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Changed the kernel back to SU 2017-005 and I'm up and running again.
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Somehow missed you already tried.
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Changed the kernel back to SU 2017-005 and I'm up and running again.
Security Updates are cumulative, also known as combo.
Once one SU gives us problems all future ones will too.
At the moment, App updates still seem to be okay, e.g. iTunes, Safari.
The ability to keep upgrading El Capitan on our classic MacPros is diminishing...
With the release of the new MacPro scheduled for 2019 (unless it is pushed back), it’s probably time to consider a new-new MacPro, or a secondhand new MacPro (6.1 “trash can”), or even a “last of the cheese grater” MacPros (5.1).
I for one will probably buy a new, new MacPro. I’ve been waiting long enough!
Yeah, that's the elephant in the room. I'm just tinkering with this beauty as long as it lasts. And offload some rendering if appropriate. My production machine is a 6,1 eight core.
Absolutely.
I too will probably have to look at a new Mac at some point, but I think the new Mac Pro (when it arrives) could be aimed at a very niche market and be a lot of money. Presumably it will have to cost more than the iMac Pro and may come too late for some who have either had to buy an iMac already or have changed platforms altogether.
For now though, El Cap runs well with the kind help of many people on here and I didn't see anything in the Keynote that makes me desperate to change. Just waiting for the first post of "how can I install Mohave on my Mac Pro 1.1?"
Got no intention of looking for a new Mac Pro for now - my 2,1 is a classic machine that'll run fine on El Cap for the foreseeable, and when the time comes (hopefully its still running) I'll run Windows or Linux on it as my main OS. These are still very capable machines.
Hi. I setup a MacPro 1,1 using this thread with a NVIDIA card a few years back. Running El Capitan and working fine. My brain stopped working and I installed the 2018-003 security update without thinking. And of course went into a boot loop.
So...I'm trying to fix it, I have a Time Machine backup. I put the original graphics card back in so I can see the recovery screens etc. And then I hit a problem. My USB wired keyboard is not recognised at startup. So, I can't enter recovery mode...so I can't do anything! The one I'm trying is an Apple one (aluminium one) but I also tried a wired microsoft one I had lying around. Both work in other machines. There's power to the USB ports (I tried a fan and a thumb drive).
I'm a bit stumped. I can't even open the DVD drive to try a recovery CD. Help?
So...I'm trying to fix it, I have a Time Machine backup. I put the original graphics card back in so I can see the recovery screens etc. And then I hit a problem. My USB wired keyboard is not recognised at startup. So, I can't enter recovery mode...so I can't do anything! The one I'm trying is an Apple one (aluminium one) but I also tried a wired microsoft one I had lying around. Both work in other machines. There's power to the USB ports (I tried a fan and a thumb drive).
I'm a bit stumped. I can't even open the DVD drive to try a recovery CD. Help?
If you’re plugging the keyboard into a USB hub, then don’t.
If you’re plugging the keyboard in additional USB ports that you added, such as a USB 3.0 card, then don’t.
Also try other USB ports. Try the ones on the front of the computer.
Also... try turning of the computer. Unplug it. Hold the power button down for about 30 seconds to fully discharge power. Wait a minute, then plug it back in. Then press the button to turn it back on.
That’s basically where I’d start. Of course, perhaps you already did.
As for the dvd drive... you can gently slide the door down with your finger. Look inside. On the actual drive sitting in there, you should see a tiny perfectly round hole that’s just big enough for a straightened paperclip. Might need a flash light.
With the computer off, press into that hole with a paper clip. With some pressure, it should cause the drive to open.
Then gently pull the tray out enough to insert a dvd.
Then turn it back on. The drive should close and boot from the dvd unless the hard drive is bootable.
If the keyboard is then working, select to boot from the dvd.
As always, this is all at your own risk. Don’t do anything that you’re not confident in.
You assume all liability upon yourself.
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Thanks - I've done most of that, but I'll keep trying. I've just worked out that the keyboard is working to reset PRAM - if I hold down Cmd-Option-P-R, it reboots after resetting. It just won't go into recovery mode. It's weird, the keyboard has no lights, eg. I hit caps lock and the light doesn't come on.
That is strange. Sometimes I’ll zap it like 3 times in a row.
I added a bit in my last post regarding the dvd.
You can also do as I suggested to discharge the power... but then hold the power button down when plugging it in. Sometimes that works to clear stuff out.
Might still have to do a reboot and pram zap still.
[doublepost=1528502628][/doublepost]The computer will not boot from the hard drive with the 2018-003 update installed. So you will need to work out either a reinstall, or boot from a backup and patch your existing install (putting your old kernel back).
I added a bit in my last post regarding the dvd.
You can also do as I suggested to discharge the power... but then hold the power button down when plugging it in. Sometimes that works to clear stuff out.
Might still have to do a reboot and pram zap still.
[doublepost=1528502628][/doublepost]The computer will not boot from the hard drive with the 2018-003 update installed. So you will need to work out either a reinstall, or boot from a backup and patch your existing install (putting your old kernel back).
Ok. I must have reset it somethow, because now the fans are running full bore - sounds like an airplane about to take off! The DVD tray opened from the keyboard. Just still can't get it to go into recovery mode. The white/grey screen comes up and then it goes to the black screen with the progress bar - gets about 25% of the way through, then reboots. I've tried CMD-R, CMD-OPTION-R but it won't go to recovery mode. SHIFT worked and I was able to boot to LION (I have 2 disks in it). Anyway to restore my TimeMachine backup from within LION to the other disk - I'll start to look into that. Also, no idea how to stop the fans blowing now! EDIT - fixed the fans with SMC reset.
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Stumped again, sorry. I can boot to Lion, but I can't boot to recovery mode. I can't work out how to restore from my time machine backup without recovery mode, and I can't work out how to reinstall because it won't let me download El Capitan (Mac Pro is too old and my Macbook is too new!). How do I put the old kernel back?
EDIT - Fixed it - sort of! Actually spent some time looking at this thread (was lazy before!). Post #4080 sorted me out. Extracted the Kernel from 2017 security update with Pacifist and updated by booting to Lion.
Now..I can't get the NVIDIA card GT 710 to work again. This was working fine before, but the MacPro won't boot when the card's in on it's own. It doesn't reboot, just won't boot and I can't access it via VNC either. The boot.efi files look the same as before (Aug 2016) so I'm not sure where to go next, apart from trying to start all over again.
EDIT - Fixed it - sort of! Actually spent some time looking at this thread (was lazy before!). Post #4080 sorted me out. Extracted the Kernel from 2017 security update with Pacifist and updated by booting to Lion.
Now..I can't get the NVIDIA card GT 710 to work again. This was working fine before, but the MacPro won't boot when the card's in on it's own. It doesn't reboot, just won't boot and I can't access it via VNC either. The boot.efi files look the same as before (Aug 2016) so I'm not sure where to go next, apart from trying to start all over again.
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