OK I've been trying to resist posting, as this is off topic for the thread, but impulse control has never been my strong suit. I'd go with the X5365s; they're 3.0 GHz and don't cost much more. The extra clock speed will make a difference in everything you're doing. As far as I know, they're the most powerful processors that are compatible with the original Mac Pros.
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2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X El Capitan
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Well, just to put a bit more of this offtopic into the thread, I've found X5365s not worth the extra cost. My X5355s benchmark at mid 10k's in Geekbench3, while X5365s usually score around mid 11k's. I don't find the double cost of X5365s compared to X5355s justify roughly 10% performance improvement. That said, I would jump into X5365s anytime if they were 10% more expensive than X5355s, which unfortunately is not the case...
Hi all,
Firstly apologies if this has already been answered, however I've not been able to find a solution. My MacPro 2.1 is currently happily running 10.11.3. This issue appears to have been with me all the way through 10.11. My machine will successfully boot from scratch. However if I try to perform a 'restart' the machine appears to shutdown and then hangs. No chime or grey screen. Hard power down and power up again and El Capitan springs into life. I just can not seem to get a restart to perform. Has any one else seen this behaviour or know what may be causing the issue?
Many thanks in advance for any advice/solution.
Hey GIJones - YES! I had the same issue! It wasn't 100%, that's why it was impossible to track down the cause as far as I'm concerned. I reset nvram; reset SMC; moved ram around; did a voodoo rain dance... Each was somewhere between non-effective and moderately effective. I just sold my 1,1 and with a brand new hard drive with Lion, Yosemite and El Capitan all fresh installed, it restarted without a hiccup over a dozen times. Not that that's helpful, but you are not the only one.
Good news is that the workaround - shutting down rather than restarting - is faster.
Speaking from painful experience, a failing hard disk has exhibited similar issues for me. The first sign is usually stuttering in GUI performance, for example scrolling becomes jerky.
I think there may be disk checks and write to disk activity during the restart sequence which may exasperate the apparent stall when rebooting. That's why I suggested the "boot in verbose mode" to see if there is an obvious stop point.....
Hello!
I apologize If a repeat this thread or it's not the right place to post it.I am new here.
I just upgraded the processors on my mac pro 1,1 from 2x2.66 dual cores x5150's to 2x3.0 quad cores x5365.It boots perfectly with OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 installed with Piker-alpha efi etc, but I can't see the upgraded it was succesful because in system info I get " 2 x 3.0 Unknown "...yes, with 8 cores and the Ati 5770 1 GB recognized perfectly.... . I did it with the "Mac Pro 2006-2007 Firmware Tool" following the instructions.I shutdown system, I press the button until flashes lights off, I have tried until "beep" appears...but nothing..
The bot ram version is :
MP11.005C.B08
smc VERSION IS :
1.7F10
Please, any help? I 've reading tons of posts here, and from other places than try to explain how to do it..I 've spent almost an enterily week investigating how to update my Mac pro 2006 with a fresh install of El Capitan, more and more time to find the simple way to let Mac pro update to the new versión of 10.11.3...The difficult part is over!! I thought... and when at least, I rise the very easy part to update firmware with that tool, all perfect except it don't know what cpu's is running...I so tired! May be in some place here there is the solution, but as I said, I tested a lot of things but nothing.
THX!
I apologize If a repeat this thread or it's not the right place to post it.I am new here.
I just upgraded the processors on my mac pro 1,1 from 2x2.66 dual cores x5150's to 2x3.0 quad cores x5365.It boots perfectly with OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 installed with Piker-alpha efi etc, but I can't see the upgraded it was succesful because in system info I get " 2 x 3.0 Unknown "...yes, with 8 cores and the Ati 5770 1 GB recognized perfectly.... . I did it with the "Mac Pro 2006-2007 Firmware Tool" following the instructions.I shutdown system, I press the button until flashes lights off, I have tried until "beep" appears...but nothing..
The bot ram version is :
MP11.005C.B08
smc VERSION IS :
1.7F10
Please, any help? I 've reading tons of posts here, and from other places than try to explain how to do it..I 've spent almost an enterily week investigating how to update my Mac pro 2006 with a fresh install of El Capitan, more and more time to find the simple way to let Mac pro update to the new versión of 10.11.3...The difficult part is over!! I thought...
and when at least, I rise the very easy part to update firmware with that tool, all perfect except it don't know what cpu's is running...I so tired! May be in some place here there is the solution, but as I said, I tested a lot of things but nothing.THX!
I had 10.9 Tiamo's running on my macpro1,1 with a 5770 GPU. I installed the pre-cooked Yosemite and upgrade to 10.11.1. With 5770 it didn't work at all, and with the old 8800GT it booted, but sluggish gfx until it had a GE panic.
Picked up a windows HD7950 and had some hassles sorting out the 2X PCI-Express 6 pin power, but it did boot 10.11.1.
I used the Apple store to upgrade to 10.11.3 and found it no longer worked, and can't see why since I have no boot video output. I replaced the boot.efi in both places without success. Eventually also replaced the recovery boot's boot.efi as well, and it come up with "finishing installation".
At the end, I now have 10.11.3, with HD7950, on a MacPro1,1. There is no boot time gfx still, and I can live with that as long as nothing breaks, ever I guess I should see how much work it is to flash it. (If you can only flash from windows, I don't think I can be bothered )
Picked up a windows HD7950 and had some hassles sorting out the 2X PCI-Express 6 pin power, but it did boot 10.11.1.
I used the Apple store to upgrade to 10.11.3 and found it no longer worked, and can't see why since I have no boot video output. I replaced the boot.efi in both places without success. Eventually also replaced the recovery boot's boot.efi as well, and it come up with "finishing installation".
At the end, I now have 10.11.3, with HD7950, on a MacPro1,1. There is no boot time gfx still, and I can live with that as long as nothing breaks, ever
I guess I should see how much work it is to flash it. (If you can only flash from windows, I don't think I can be bothered )
does the pikify script affect the installation of rEFInd?
because no matter how many times i install it, i still never see the boot menu..
I successfully updated my MacPro to El Capitan btw xD just wanna dual boot now xP
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because Tiamo's boot efi shouldn't be used.
Pikeralpha is more stable for this model computer. use the automated pikify script located on post 1390
because no matter how many times i install it, i still never see the boot menu..
I successfully updated my MacPro to El Capitan btw xD just wanna dual boot now xP
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I had 10.9 Tiamo's running on my macpro1,1 with a 5770 GPU. I installed the pre-cooked Yosemite and upgrade to 10.11.1. With 5770 it didn't work at all, and with the old 8800GT it booted, but sluggish gfx until it had a GE panic.
Picked up a windows HD7950 and had some hassles sorting out the 2X PCI-Express 6 pin power, but it did boot 10.11.1.
I used the Apple store to upgrade to 10.11.3 and found it no longer worked, and can't see why since I have no boot video output. I replaced the boot.efi in both places without success. Eventually also replaced the recovery boot's boot.efi as well, and it come up with "finishing installation".
At the end, I now have 10.11.3, with HD7950, on a MacPro1,1. There is no boot time gfx still, and I can live with that as long as nothing breaks, ever
because Tiamo's boot efi shouldn't be used.
Pikeralpha is more stable for this model computer. use the automated pikify script located on post 1390
Dear All
I'm a macuser from France (sorry)
I have a 1.1 Macpro with SSD, 8go of ram and a pc version of the ATI HD5770 under 10.7.5
I try ones to up date with El capitain by installing it on an external drive with a supported mac then change the two boot.efi files and plug in the external drive in my macpro...
It work without problem in a first time,(boot ok) but after fives minutes on the desktop my macpro restart with karnel panic.
Now the restart is just after the login screen.. and it's every time
So i have tow questions :
- any idea of what should i do to fix it ?
- I'm perfectly ok if i have to go for Mavericks or Yosemite but i can't find an "appstore ok" version of both OS, so were should i download them/it ?
Cheers mates for any idea !
Have nice evening
I'm a macuser from France (sorry)
I have a 1.1 Macpro with SSD, 8go of ram and a pc version of the ATI HD5770 under 10.7.5
I try ones to up date with El capitain by installing it on an external drive with a supported mac then change the two boot.efi files and plug in the external drive in my macpro...
It work without problem in a first time,(boot ok) but after fives minutes on the desktop my macpro restart with karnel panic.
Now the restart is just after the login screen.. and it's every time
So i have tow questions :
- any idea of what should i do to fix it ?
- I'm perfectly ok if i have to go for Mavericks or Yosemite but i can't find an "appstore ok" version of both OS, so were should i download them/it ?
Cheers mates for any idea !
Have nice evening
Hello polo1661,
Many people have had similar issues. In almost all cases the problem is due to bad RAM. Do you have any of the original 512MB RAM modules installed?
If yes, remove them. Test to see if that stabilises your system.
If yes, consider buying more RAM, 2GB modules (or 4 GB) in pairs.
So I bought more ram and I try all possible combinaison with all modules and finally the last one is working well !!!
My buddy is back in business!
Hello there,
I had the same problem. If you try the old boot.efi (no problem with El Capitan, I was using it before bought extra ram) it will be OK. If you are with the new one (boot.efi for El Capitan) you should have at least 12GB memory in order to work.
Thank you
P.S. I had this problem for a long time before I discover the solution. Every time I asked the forum nobody asked me about the amount of ram. Possibly all the Old Mac Pro users have more than 12gig of memory.
if you had installed Logitech or microsoft software for your mouse, remove them.
I you had installed mouse accelerator, or any software that modify the mouse behavior, remove it.
These software can impact trackpad functionalities.
i use such trackpad on my Mac Pro 1.1/El capitan, with no issue. i had this issue on a macbook pro, the cause was a mouse accelerator, the integrated trackpad worked great, not the bluetooth one.
hope that helps
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Why are you sorry ?
I'm french too. we take care writing in foreign language (english), and because it is not our usual
langage, we can do mistakes.
Not sure that english speaking people would take care about writing in french if they would post on
a french forum.
it's not shameful to be french. it's not our fault
First, thanks to all for their hard work to make this so easy.
I am stuck trying to install pikify v8 a second time (on an SSD) on the same Mac Pro - the install script hangs.
Should I pull the HD with the original El Cap install and start over, or am I stuck copying from the original drive and trying to clean the garbage off it?
Or can I boot into my El Cap install and run the installer from the USB drive, installing onto the SSD?
I am stuck trying to install pikify v8 a second time (on an SSD) on the same Mac Pro - the install script hangs.
Should I pull the HD with the original El Cap install and start over, or am I stuck copying from the original drive and trying to clean the garbage off it?
Or can I boot into my El Cap install and run the installer from the USB drive, installing onto the SSD?
Hello joeberk,
To use the installer volume a second time (onwards), you probably need to re-bless the volume. For some reason the Apple Install Assistant blesses the volume (that stops you using it a second time) during the installation.
Please see post #1588
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That was easy! Booted the drive from a more recent Mac and manually changed the files. Completely flawless so far.
Big thanks to those working on the files and maintaining this thread.
Mac Pro will surely pass it's 10th birthday now (touch wood).
Big thanks to those working on the files and maintaining this thread.
Mac Pro will surely pass it's 10th birthday now (touch wood).
Actually, USB sound card doesn't work anymore (but works on other El Capitan Macs). Any ideas?