Resolved 2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

[aliajwalker]

on one board i got 4x 512mb (stock ram) and on the other my upgradet 4x 2gb

I've now changed back completely to the 8x 512mb stock to check if the error still occurs ...

i've seen (using hardware monitor that the 4 new arms get quite hot - around 70 degrees C - when just browsing the web and using office... after I noticed i did changed the position of them and now just one gets up to like 80 degrees while the others are around 65 . maybe this one is faulty.... but now I'm checking with the stock ram... so thanks for you're help ....

Yep sounds faulty stick- its drawing too much power so leave that stick out. Also its your computer dusty inside?

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Yep sounds faulty stick- its drawing too much power so leave that stick out. Also its your computer dusty inside?

Also make sure you install them in different positions.

 

[nico2205]

Yep sounds faulty stick- its drawing too much power so leave that stick out. Also its your computer dusty inside?

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Also make sure you install them in different positions.

no, just cleaned it yesterday... so thanks very much - will report back, if it does fix it or not ...

 

[666sheep]

I just changed the OP... but I'm not actually sure it's correct? There's no harm in the twice reboot though so I put it in.

In my earlier playing with it, it's installing a launch daemon that runs at shutdown to copy the correct boot.efi files. Once you reboot, it looks to me like it's launched with that next boot as a launch daemon. Nothing magic about the next reboot as far as I can tell?

It doesn't physically run (copying the boot.efi files) until you shutdown or restart, but it's installed and ready to go once it's launched as a launch daemon.

Perhaps I'm missing something?

You're basically correct, but as you can see in this thread it does not always work because some people are interpreting it incorrectly. As you said, double reboot won't hurt and will give 100% certainty.

 

[sweetspud]

Hi, I already flashed the firmware long before upgrading to yosemite...

You should be at 2,1. You mention you're still at 1,1.

 

[aliajwalker]

no, just cleaned it yesterday... so thanks very much - will report back, if it does fix it or not ...

If it were me I would leave the 512mb out. They are not as reliable/fast as your other modules and slow them down!

 

[Hennesie2000]

on one board i got 4x 512mb (stock ram) and on the other my upgradet 4x 2gb



I've now changed back completely to the 8x 512mb stock to check if the error still occurs ...



i've seen (using hardware monitor that the 4 new arms get quite hot - around 70 degrees C - when just browsing the web and using office... after I noticed i did changed the position of them and now just one gets up to like 80 degrees while the others are around 65 . maybe this one is faulty.... but now I'm checking with the stock ram... so thanks for you're help ....

I would have the sticks configured differently. Top riser 2-2-512-512 and the bottom riser 2-2-512-512.

 

[aliajwalker]

I would have the sticks configured differently. Top riser 2-2-512-512 and the bottom riser 2-2-512-512.

Take the 512s out as they are trying to draw too much power as the other sticks are bigger. You'll slow the larger modules down. Its a power regulation problem. Just take the 512s out completely as the problem will come back

 

[nico2205]

Take the 512s out as they are trying to draw too much power as the other sticks are bigger. You'll slow the larger modules down. Its a power regulation problem. Just take the 512s out completely as the problem will come back

ok, will try it soon - thans

 

[Hennesie2000]

Take the 512s out as they are trying to draw too much power as the other sticks are bigger. You'll slow the larger modules down. Its a power regulation problem. Just take the 512s out completely as the problem will come back

I never had any issues running a 10GB configuration as I laid out in my previous post.

 

[Jessiechrist]

Hey I've run into a problem that I've seen before, not sure if I can solve it without a clean re-install but I really hope I can.

I have a cheapo pc nvidia 210 I've been using to play with my some of my yosemite piker installs.

This time around. I loaded the nvidia web driver and the machine absolutely will not give me any video with newer nvidia cards anymore. I confirmed that the card worked on my other 1,1 macpro along with an ASUS strix gtx970.

This seems to be a problem with something malformed in the OS after installing the webdriver.

I can boot the machine with PC ATI cards fine. It shows the nvidia web driver icon. Is there anyway to purge the os of any of the nvidia configuration files so I can try to start again with a clean slate, and avoid actually re installing the entire os?

 

[MacVidCards]

Hey I've run into a problem that I've seen before, not sure if I can solve it without a clean re-install but I really hope I can.

I have a cheapo pc nvidia 210 I've been using to play with my some of my yosemite piker installs.

This time around. I loaded the nvidia web driver and the machine absolutely will not give me any video with newer nvidia cards anymore. I confirmed that the card worked on my other 1,1 macpro along with an ASUS strix gtx970.

This seems to be a problem with something malformed in the OS after installing the webdriver.

I can boot the machine with PC ATI cards fine. It shows the nvidia web driver icon. Is there anyway to purge the os of any of the nvidia configuration files so I can try to start again with a clean slate, and avoid actually re installing the entire os?

did you try just turning it off?

 

[Jessiechrist]

did you try just turning it off?

You're joking right?

I've tried changing video cards.

I've tried deleting the webdriver which was just me telling it to remove the nvidia web driver from the system configuration.

It will boot partially with the GT 7300 glitch out and hang after entering user password, but thats normal.

It will boot fine with a pc ATI card (forget the model)

The 210 simply will not display video at all when it boots since I installed the Web Driver

The ASUS Strix will not display video either.

It booted fine in my other machine, this is really quite frustrating.

 

[MacVidCards]

You're joking right?

I've tried changing video cards.

I've tried deleting the webdriver which was just me telling it to remove the nvidia web driver from the system configuration.

It will boot partially with the GT 7300 glitch out and hang after entering user password, but thats normal.

It will boot fine with a pc ATI card (forget the model)

The 210 simply will not display video at all when it boots since I installed the Web Driver

The ASUS Strix will not display video either.

It booted fine in my other machine, this is really quite frustrating.

The Web Driver has a control panel where you can turn it off.

If that doesn't work, remove "nvidia startup.kext", that is the only thing that loads if Web driver isn't choosen.

 

[Jessiechrist]

The Web Driver has a control panel where you can turn it off.

If that doesn't work, remove "nvidia startup.kext", that is the only thing that loads if Web driver isn't choosen.

Awesome I'll try and report back, hopefully it repairs itself.

 

[Jessiechrist]

Awesome I'll try and report back, hopefully it repairs itself.

No it didn't work.
I'm assuming you mean the one that's in the /System/Library/Extensions folder?

There are a lot more nvidia and gforce things there but I guess those are for acceleration?

I took my other macpros drive and it boots up the card fine :/

Looks like I need to run a clean install. I really don't know why I'm having this issue...

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The Web Driver has a control panel where you can turn it off.

If that doesn't work, remove "nvidia startup.kext", that is the only thing that loads if Web driver isn't choosen.

I found nvdastartup.kext

 

[MacVidCards]

No it didn't work.
I'm assuming you mean the one that's in the /System/Library/Extensions folder?

There are a lot more nvidia and gforce things there but I guess those are for acceleration?

I took my other macpros drive and it boots up the card fine :/

Looks like I need to run a clean install. I really don't know why I'm having this issue...

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I found nvdastartup.kext

As far as I know, everything else installed by the Web Driver has "web" in it's name.

Maybe try copying all of the nvidia kexts over from your working drive?

 

[rvgulik]

GT120 in Xserve

Hi, got my cards (2x GT120-512MB) in today.

Installed the first card but no bootscreen do i miss something?

 

[mikeboss]

Hi, got my cards (2x GT120-512MB) in today.

Installed the first card but no bootscreen do i miss something?

genuine Apple GT 120? these only will show bootscreens if plugged into an Xserve (Early 2009).

if you'd like to get bootscreens in older Xserves you would need a flashed card which runs in 32 EFI machines.

 

[MacVidCards]

Hi, got my cards (2x GT120-512MB) in today.

Installed the first card but no bootscreen do i miss something?

Which cards did you order and which X-Serve do you have?

 

[rvgulik]

genuine Apple GT 120? these only will show bootscreens if plugged into an Xserve (Early 2009).

if you'd like to get bootscreens in older Xserves you would need a flashed card which runs in 32 EFI machines.

I got the cards from MacVidCards.com and they supposed to be flashed

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Which cards did you order and which X-Serve do you have?

GT120-512MB-DualDVI
Xserve 2,1 Early 2008

 

[mikeboss]

and they're supposed to run on 32bit EFI machines? there are two versions of this card from MacVidCards: one for 64bit and one for 32bit EFI Macs.

EDIT: Xserve2,1 needs a 64bit EFI graphics card.

 

[rvgulik]

and they're supposed to run on 32bit EFI machines? there are two versions of this card from MacVidCards: one for 64bit and one for 32bit EFI Macs.

EDIT: Xserve2,1 needs a 32bit EFI graphics card.

hmm, MacVidCards just told me i need EFI-64, i have EFI-32
They say the Xserve 2008 is equivalent to MacPro 3,1 2008

 

[mikeboss]

AFAIK the Xserve2,1 has a 32bit EFI. thus it would need a GFX card flashed with a 32bit EFI ROM.

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They say the Xserve 2008 is equivalent to MacPro 3,1 2008

AFAIK:
MacPro3,1 (2008) has 64bit EFI
Xserve2,1 (2008) has 32bit EFI

correction: Xserve2,1 has a 64bit EFI

 

[rvgulik]

AFAIK the Xserve2,1 has a 32bit EFI. thus it would need a GFX card flashed with a 32bit EFI ROM.

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AFAIK:
MacPro3,1 (2008) has 64bit EFI
Xserve2,1 (2008) has 32bit EFI

OK completely confused now.
MacVidCards says EFI-64, you tell me EFI-32
If it is EFI-32 then i have the correct cards

MacVidCards says i have the wrong cards and they should be EFI-64

 

[mikeboss]

it's quite simple: can you install OS X 10.8 and newer without hacking? no. conclusion: the machine has NO 64bit EFI.

correction: Xserve2,1 has a 64bit EFI