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wwanthony

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Oct 24, 2013
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If you have access to another Mac that is Yosemite "legit" get ahold of an SSD or any 2.5" drive and a $5 USB adapter. Run the install on the other Mac, then migrate anything you need from that Mac. Restart from other drive on the other Mac and place the boot.efi files, repair permissions and YOU ARE DONE.

Move the drive to unsupported Mac and enjoy! If you want or need it on 3.5" drive use Restore.

It really is a whole lot easier than hacking the installer. I have 2 unsupported Macs running via this method. Worked the first time and I moved on to other things. If it has become a major endeavor you are doing it wrong.

This is the way I do it.....
 

TwangKing

macrumors newbie
Nov 9, 2014
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I'm not sure why some people are struggling with modifying and booting from the installer. I have done it many times with different USB drives and installing to external and internal drives (HDD/SSHD/SSD). I have yet to not be able to boot to the installer or boot the newly installed OS. Never had an issue with Mavericks either.

H2SO4 confirmed my suspicions, it's a Snow Leopard issue. Been doing a bit a research on this, people who are running both SL & Yosemite are not able to boot back into SL from Yosemite, it does not show in the startup prefs. You have to use the option key. It's something to do with corestorage, there a long thread at macintouch that goes into it. Furthermore, it appears that even sharing data between the two OS's is not advisable. For example, if you are saving projects to an external drive, Yosemite reformats it and SL no longer recognizes it. I need to look into this further, but that's my understanding. If this is indeed the case, I'm going to go the Mavericks route instead of Yosemite.

In any event, thank you for all the help, the Macvid suggestion did occur to me, might try that.
 

Hennesie2000

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H2SO4 confirmed my suspicions, it's a Snow Leopard issue. Been doing a bit a research on this, people who are running both SL & Yosemite are not able to boot back into SL from Yosemite, it does not show in the startup prefs. You have to use the option key. It's something to do with corestorage, there a long thread at macintouch that goes into it. Furthermore, it appears that even sharing data between the two OS's is not advisable. For example, if you are saving projects to an external drive, Yosemite reformats it and SL no longer recognizes it. I need to look into this further, but that's my understanding. If this is indeed the case, I'm going to go the Mavericks route instead of Yosemite.



In any event, thank you for all the help, the Macvid suggestion did occur to me, might try that.


Why not update to Lion? It is fully supported by the Mac Pro 1,1 and 2,1.
 

PeterHolbrook

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Sep 23, 2009
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H2SO4 confirmed my suspicions, it's a Snow Leopard issue. Been doing a bit a research on this, people who are running both SL & Yosemite are not able to boot back into SL from Yosemite, it does not show in the startup prefs

I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but what you are stating is not true AT ALL. I have Yosemite (14A389) AND Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on my Mac Pro 1,1, and I can boot Snow Leopard whenever I want. It appears both in Startup Manager at boot time AND in the Startup Disk System Preferences pane. Whatever your suspicions, think again, because your statement is entirely wrong.
 

jayfrantz

macrumors newbie
Nov 11, 2014
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Bum thumb drive

Just as Hennesie suspected, there was a problem with the thumb drive I was using to attempt the install. Formatted a different thumb, Mac Pro booted from it first attempt.

If you are pulling your hair out trying to get something bootable, try alternate thumb drives, apparently they are unreliable little buggers. Thank you very much for your help, yet again, Hennesie.
 

Hennesie2000

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Just as Hennesie suspected, there was a problem with the thumb drive I was using to attempt the install. Formatted a different thumb, Mac Pro booted from it first attempt.



If you are pulling your hair out trying to get something bootable, try alternate thumb drives, apparently they are unreliable little buggers. Thank you very much for your help, yet again, Hennesie.


I haven't had any issue with the SanDisk Cruzer line. I have an 8GB and a 32GB, both boot fine. The 32 has even been through the wash and sat on by my dog so it no longer retracts. I also have a 32GB Leef USB 3.0 drive. The Leef is incredibly fast in a USB 2.0 or 3.0 port.
 

jayfrantz

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Nov 11, 2014
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I haven't had any issue with the SanDisk Cruzer line. I have an 8GB and a 32GB, both boot fine. The 32 has even been through the wash and sat on by my dog so it no longer retracts. I also have a 32GB Leef USB 3.0 drive. The Leef is incredibly fast in a USB 2.0 or 3.0 port.

The one giving me trouble was a PNY that I have no idea where it came from. The one that ended up working was, coincidentally, a Cruzer 16 GB. I have had no trouble with a Kingston DataTraveler that I keep my backup Lion install on, but wanted to keep that installer around just in case I needed it in the future.

Has anybody here been using a third party SSD without trim in Yosemite long enough to get a sense for the performance degradation?
 

TwangKing

macrumors newbie
Nov 9, 2014
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I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but what you are stating is not true AT ALL. I have Yosemite (14A389) AND Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on my Mac Pro 1,1, and I can boot Snow Leopard whenever I want. It appears both in Startup Manager at boot time AND in the Startup Disk System Preferences pane. Whatever your suspicions, think again, because your statement is entirely wrong.

I'm okay with blunt. That's actually great news & I hope it's the same for me. Here's where I got that info if you're interested-http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/harddrives/

So it sounds like SL & Yosemite are coexisting perfectly for you, no problems with sharing data across hard drives?

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Just as Hennesie suspected, there was a problem with the thumb drive I was using to attempt the install. Formatted a different thumb, Mac Pro booted from it first attempt.

If you are pulling your hair out trying to get something bootable, try alternate thumb drives, apparently they are unreliable little buggers. Thank you very much for your help, yet again, Hennesie.

So far I've tried an 8GB PNY, and a 8GB Kingston. Bought a 16GB SanDisk Cruzer yesterday, no luck with that one either.
 

PeterHolbrook

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Sep 23, 2009
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So it sounds like SL & Yosemite are coexisting perfectly for you, no problems with sharing data across hard drives?

None whatsoever. The only problem I'm aware of is that the Startup Manager won't boot my Yosemite Recovery Partition, although the Recovery Partition does work if I press Cmd-R at boot time. Other than that, everything works great.
 

H2SO4

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Nov 4, 2008
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I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but what you are stating is not true AT ALL. I have Yosemite (14A389) AND Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on my Mac Pro 1,1, and I can boot Snow Leopard whenever I want. It appears both in Startup Manager at boot time AND in the Startup Disk System Preferences pane. Whatever your suspicions, think again, because your statement is entirely wrong.
Does SL appear in Disk Utility when booted in Yosemite?

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Why not update to Lion? It is fully supported by the Mac Pro 1,1 and 2,1.

A necessary evil?

That wasn’t Apples finest hour.
 

PeterHolbrook

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Sorry, what a dufus - me that is. I mean the other way around, does Yosemite appear in Disk Utility when booted in Snow Leopard?

As this is a production machine, I can't reboot it just now to check on your question. I don't recall opening the SL Disk Utility after installing Yosemite, but I am absolutely certain that the SL Finder sees the Yosemite disk and has write access to it.
 

H2SO4

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Just a suggestion. I was not a fan of lion either.

I didn’t mean to make it sound like I was having a go.

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As this is a production machine, I can't reboot it just now to check on your question. I don't recall opening the SL Disk Utility after installing Yosemite, but I am absolutely certain that the SL Finder sees the Yosemite disk and has write access to it.

I’ll check again for myself later on. IIRC there were instances of this on the ASC with supported machines.
 

wolf1734

macrumors regular
Nov 9, 2014
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Yosemite mac pro 2006/2007

hello
I come for the first time on the forrum because I try several times to Yosemite on a USB key to install it in a mac pro 1.1 ugrade 2.1 with 8 2x2,66 heart but each time it does not work.
I would like to know if someone could make me a USB key with a way above Yosemite depané me or put me in a dmg download that I would put on a usb to the instalation I Thank You ennormément if someone could come to my secour thank you
kind regards
 

H2SO4

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Not sure about Snow Leopard, but it does in Lion.

That doesn’t surprise me. There are a lot of similarities from 10.7 onwards. I’m gonna try the Snow Leopard thing right now. Hold on………

Ok, I’m back. Right;
It didn’t before and it doesn’t on a later MacBook Pro but Yose now shows up in SL disk Utility.
No change with Start up pane, still doesn’t show the Yose drive in SL.

My observations.
 
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mactune

macrumors newbie
Feb 20, 2013
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hello
I come for the first time on the forrum because I try several times to Yosemite on a USB key to install it in a mac pro 1.1 ugrade 2.1 with 8 2x2,66 heart but each time it does not work.
I would like to know if someone could make me a USB key with a way above Yosemite depané me or put me in a dmg download that I would put on a usb to the instalation I Thank You ennormément if someone could come to my secour thank you
kind regards

Hi, I can do it, however uploading the image will take a long time.
Once uploaded I will post the link here
 

wolf1734

macrumors regular
Nov 9, 2014
147
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France
Still don't have a way of sending you a link.
good evening
you sent me a link that Skype should work
kind regards

bonsoir

vous pouvez mettre un lien sur skype ou le dmg preparer pour un mac pro 1.1 je vous donnerais mon adresse
cordialement
 
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