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Ok, a mega surprise would be a DVD drive return installed at the top spinning along the fan.
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Yes it can, on MST mode, since TB3/USB-C can transport two simultaneous DP signals, it can be done on a single cable, HDMI 2.0 Can deliver upto 8K@60p SST, note there is no single DP1.3 product on the market, and all and every one 5K panels rely on DP1.2 MST.
Maybe, if Apple launches their patented Thunderbolt 3 Display with on-board dGPU.
I'd expect Apple to offer the full 256 GiB RAM. The 64 GiB modules are shipping in quantity (I recently got three systems with 16 each - 1 TiB per system).
When the MP6,1 was released the 32 GiB DIMMs were not yet available, so 64 GiB (4 x 16) was the limit. Apple couldn't be bothered to qualify, support and sell 128 GiB (4 x 32) - they just don't care enough to add that little bit of effort.
I'd give you a 1/3 chance on this bet.
One customer just assembled a cluster for R big data analysis, 2 rack 8 supermicro barebones, 2 e5v3 each, 1tb ram each barebones, 8 AMD FirePro W9100 each, infiniband etc (data stored on networked servers). 1.5 peta flop, and about 1 million spent.
I asked him, what an investment, when it will break even? He answered soon: 4 to 5 weeks (its an F500 sized operation).
No, I didn't sell it, I'm not in R-Big Data, but what it does its optimize inventories across 300 locations based on client and provider data plus a bunch of purchased data .
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DP 1.3 will come with Polaris/Pascal era. If Apple is about to release external retina displays, they sure were waiting for DP 1.3. It would need dual connector for 5k with DP 1.2. One USB type-c connector is enough with DP 1.3. And basic 1.2 doesn't support Freesync.. or what ever Apple brand of adaptive sync there will be.
Sure they'll sell us an adapter for USB type-c >TB2 for USD 49.. to use with older Macs. It would take both my rMBP's TB2's to use external 5k.
Sure they'll sell us an adapter for USB type-c >TB2 for USD 49.. to use with older Macs. It would take both my rMBP's TB2's to use external 5k.
Dp 1.3 is out of thunderbolt3/ usb-c specification, it needs its own connector/cable by the moment.
Usb-c/thunderbolt 3 cables actually can transport dual dp1.2 signals or channels as you like, so an 5K display could be feed by an single cable/connector.
http://www.displayport.org/pr/vesa-brings-displayport-new-usb-type-c-connector/
USB type-c supports DP 1.3 as well as 1.2. When the standard was released, there were no DP 1.3 devices, but when ever there is, USB type-c can be used. Standard exists.
USB type-c truly IS an Universal Serial Bus.
UPDATE: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/synopsys-introduces-usb-3-1-141000242.html
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Yes, but if you read carefully, you observe that dp1.3 is restricted to 3ft under usb-c alt mode, by this reason (and other reasons) Intel ditched it from thunderbolt 3 Alpine Ridge.
More details here http://www.anandtech.com/show/9331/intel-announces-thunderbolt-3
Just a note, for USB-C, if you are doing displayport and USB over USB-C at the same time you are l limited to displayport 1.1 resolutions (i.e. 2560x1600). If you want displayport 1.2 and additional data you have to use thunderbolt 3. Remember that thunderbolt 3 has 40 Gbps of data whereas USB 3.1 Gen 2 only has 10 Gbps.
You can also do displayport 1.2a over thunderbolt 3 so you can still get freesync. This would only be available on screen's driven by AMD GPUs as Intel doesn't support freesync on skylake.
Interesting. I always assumed they left it out because it wasn't included in skylake.
More on DP1.3 and its 3Ft extension limit:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8558/displayport-alternate-mode-for-usb-typec-announced
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8558/displayport-alternate-mode-for-usb-typec-announced
<begin reading in Dana Carvey grumpy old man voice>
You kids today, with your 1TB of main memory. You don't know what it used to be like. Hell, back in my day we were thrilled when the VAX hosting 30 developers got upgraded to 16MB of main memory. We used to have to pound out FORTRAN on 80x24 character 10" vt100 9600 buad terminals. And stare at the screen watching the text jump around due to power fluctuations. It made your eyes go cross-eyed 'til you bled from your tear ducts. And that's the way it was, and we liked it. HELL we loved it!
<end reading in Dana Carvey grumpy old man voice>
But seriously you kids are spoiled.
That was me in college. I don't miss that, but I agree 1TB of RAM seems a bit over the top unless you really really need to have a large database resident in memory. I worked in and around HPC for many years, and finally left about 10 years ago for academia because I just couldn't stand the hardware arms race mentality of it all. It was just becoming a huge video game with lots of dog-and-pony shows. It's far worse now, though. The my-computer-is-bigger-than-yours game gets old very fast. Hardware is boring.
What about the VT55 that had a "bell" that sounded like a '52 Chevy being put into reverse while moving forward?<begin reading in Dana Carvey grumpy old man voice>
You kids today, with your 1TB of main memory. You don't know what it used to be like. Hell, back in my day we were thrilled when the VAX hosting 30 developers got upgraded to 16MB of main memory. We used to have to pound out FORTRAN on 80x24 character 10" vt100 9600 buad terminals. And stare at the screen watching the text jump around due to power fluctuations. It made your eyes go cross-eyed 'til you bled from your tear ducts. And that's the way it was, and we liked it. HELL we loved it!
<end reading in Dana Carvey grumpy old man voice>
But seriously you kids are spoiled.
ps: My first VAX-11/780 had the upgrade to 512 KiB of RAM.
pps: Two extra thumbs up for properly casing FORTRAN.
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We planned on 2 TiB per system - but each system has quad Titan X GPUs. The Maxwell architecture has 40 bit addressing, so 1 TiB (minus one byte) is the max.
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I'm running 24GB on my home machine, 16GB on my main work machine and 64GB on the render machine and for my purposes I don't think it makes sense to have any more than the latter with whatever machine I upgrade to in a year or two (or longer.) Adobe keeps on promising After Effects is gonna' join the rest of the world and be a true multithreaded application that can utilize all these cores in your machine, but I just don't believe them. My entire professional career I've tried multiprocessor rendering and found that it's almost always slower than just letting the render truck along without it on. Especially since they don't bother showing in-application which effects are multithreaded or GPU-accelerated it's a complete crapshoot what your render times are gonna' be like, and even with CC2015 you *still* can't play back SD video and audio in real time on anything less than a monster rig. Basically, Adobe's making it easy to justify keeping my old hardware around because however much faster the newer stuff is, I don't have any faith I'll be able to *use* that power.
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So yeah, aside from Apple not committing to a decently regular update schedule, I've got more bones to pick on the software side before I get to castigating them
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So yeah, aside from Apple not committing to a decently regular update schedule, I've got more bones to pick on the software side before I get to castigating them
My first encounter with Basic was on an old Epson QX-10 c/pm loaded with "huge" 256KB of ram, impossible to beat it at chess (it only game), useful for accounting thanks to lotus123 (or VisiCalc I don't remember) and those flexible 5.1/4 disk more than once central character in many nightmares.
But these Times (I was 6-7) a Pc was the max (and cost as an cheap car then).
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PDP-11/23 built into VT103, 160k RAM, but (because of what I was doing with it) 6 serial ports. RT-11. 8" RX02 floppies. FORTRAN IV. We did some good work with that machine. I can't remember how much the rig cost, but it was way above $10K, with another VT100. Maybe pushing $20K.
But seriously you kids are spoiled.
Back in high school my math teacher kept a VAX with punch cards running in the math lab. It was a little like his pet and he would tinker and faun over it with great pride. And to be honest, it was pretty damn cool to see it rattle away with the cards. This was back in the 80's.
Personally my first computer was a Timex/Sinclair 1000 with 2kb of RAM hooked up to a BW TV with my parents Grundig cassette recorder... I think the max resolution was 64x44 in glorious black and white
All the DP1.3 issues might be one of the reasons we still don't have a proper rTBD yet, along with lack of hardware of course. The display will have to be awesome, 5K and HDR, which could be a problem.
The 1m/3ft issue is a problem but how long are the cables now anyway?
The 1m/3ft issue is a problem but how long are the cables now anyway?
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