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2017 Formula 1 Season Thread
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I wouldn't call a team like McLaren sad and busted, though. That's typical Jalopnik clickbait, and one reason I don't read them.
What will determine the bust-hood of McLaren is how they get out of it. I wouldn't be at all surprised, given the middle-eastern owners, if they junk the F1 team simply because it's not making money and the owners are not interested in heritage or culture but simply ROI.
It doesn't help that Honda, despite all their experience and resources, haven't been able to get their act together and still they keep saying "We solved it, we're rolling out power upgrades, things will improve...etc" or that McLaren itself, especially that new idiot Zak Brown, keeps coming up with typical marketing fluff like "Our chassis is equal to Mercedes, we have wealthy owners, our driver lineup is the top-notch...etc"
I don't blame Alonso for ditching a race; it sends a very clear signal to Brown & company as well as other teams: I'm not happy, my contract is up this year, I'm still at the top of my game, what can you do? His driving ability isn't questioned (especially after what he wrangled out that car in qualy), and his motives are clear.
I really, really hope the owners don't shudder the team and bank on road cars.
Was that stroll? He's a disaster. Maybe one day he'll be good, but he's in no way ready for the big time. Yet.
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Able to watch live today and tomorrow which makes a nice change.
No avoiding all the news until the rerun!
Ferrari look quick in practice. Will see the true pace in a bit.
No avoiding all the news until the rerun!
Ferrari look quick in practice. Will see the true pace in a bit.
Well done Bottas on his first pole position.
After the first two races I felt he needed to respond with a good weekend and remind people it's not just Lewis versus Vettel.
Ferrari seemed a bit off the pace today. Makes you wonder if the Mercs were holding back in practice.
Good results for the Renault team as well with both cars through to Q3.
After the first two races I felt he needed to respond with a good weekend and remind people it's not just Lewis versus Vettel.
Ferrari seemed a bit off the pace today. Makes you wonder if the Mercs were holding back in practice.
Good results for the Renault team as well with both cars through to Q3.
I'm just waiting for when it's Vettel and Hamilton, Vettel wins, and Hamilton whine about a conspiracy, or Vettel was unfair, or something. The man is the king of the Whiners. His hard-core fans are no better, either: "He's one of the Great Drivers, unbeatable, Hammertime yeah! etc etc..." *comes out behind an underpowered car driven by a newbie* "It was aaaaaaallll Max's fault! wah wah wah."
Or bad strategy calls by Ferrari are interpreted as first-class driving from Lewis, bad strategy calls from Mercedes and it's all someone else's fault.
It's almost as entertaining as the race itself to see what excuses he and his fans make time and again.
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I'm just waiting for when it's Vettel and Hamilton, Vettel wins, and Hamilton whine about a conspiracy, or Vettel was unfair, or something. The man is the king of the Whiners. His hard-core fans are no better, either: "He's one of the Great Drivers, unbeatable, Hammertime yeah! etc etc..." *comes out behind an underpowered car driven by a newbie* "It was aaaaaaallll Max's fault! wah wah wah."
Or bad strategy calls by Ferrari are interpreted as first-class driving from Lewis, bad strategy calls from Mercedes and it's all someone else's fault.
It's almost as entertaining as the race itself to see what excuses he and his fans make time and again.
That sounds like the Hamilton of a few years ago but in his years against Nico it was rarely Lewis doing the whining. I think we've seen a much more mature Hamilton these last few years.
I don't think it's just hardcore fans of him that appreciate how good he is either. It's pretty indisputable within F1 that he's 'one' of the best drivers of this generation. Most of us here though are of an age where we just like the racing and the 'my driver is better than yours tripe' is a little immature.
I'm looking forward to a close battle today and although I will prefer a Brit to win, I will be happy to see Bottas get his first win or Vettel to really put the pressure on Lewis for this to be an exciting season. Enjoy these guys while we still have them in the sport, they're good!
Actually I think Vettel and Max are both worse complainers than Lewis.I'm just waiting for when it's Vettel and Hamilton, Vettel wins, and Hamilton whine about a conspiracy, or Vettel was unfair, or something. The man is the king of the Whiners. His hard-core fans are no better, either: "He's one of the Great Drivers, unbeatable, Hammertime yeah! etc etc..." *comes out behind an underpowered car driven by a newbie* "It was aaaaaaallll Max's fault! wah wah wah."
Or bad strategy calls by Ferrari are interpreted as first-class driving from Lewis, bad strategy calls from Mercedes and it's all someone else's fault.
It's almost as entertaining as the race itself to see what excuses he and his fans make time and again.
But then I guess all F1 greats like cars to pull over and stop to aid them on their way!
I think Lewis has been very open and seems genuine about enjoying the challenge from Ferrari.
He is mature enough to know that if his car is so much better than everyone else's he's not going to get the recognition for being champion.
But then I'm struggling to remember many drivers who one the title in the second or third best car.
It's amazing they can't even get two cars to start a race!
Which is crazy, because they support half the field in IndyCar
Also, great race so far.
Agree. Especially if you're a Vettel fan! Hamilton needs to make that rubber lady until the end to stand any chance.
If I was Mercedes I'd release him to go and hassle Vettel to help Bottas to the win.
Shame Max had a brake failure. He'd have been right amongst it.
HAM is driving with a pending 5 second penalty. I feel like VET has it, but still lots of racing left.
[doublepost=1492360572][/doublepost]McHonda at it again. What a disaster
Shame about the penalty. Could have seen them going wheel for wheel for the victory at the end without.
I think again we have seen how much better Lewis and Vettel are than their team mates.
And yes Alonso must be so frustrated.
But it's good to not know which team is going to win each week.
Well, Fernando is going to race in the Indy 500 with a real Honda racing engine
they are good in indycar... andretti autosport on the other hand...
eh. they probably aren't that bad a team. i think they've won a race or two already this season.
Haven't watched the Indy for years. I'll watch this year with Alonso and Andretti racing. All the carrots that Mclaren are offering Alonso won't make a difference unless they change over to Mercedes engine. Heard on the broadcast that Alonso may be talking to Renault. Hmmm.
McLaren should never go back to Mercedes. They're dooming themselves to never win again. Throw a bone at VW and try to get them to build an Audi power unit. They're never going to beat a factory team.
Of course, I have said this for a while, if McLaren were serious about improving reliability on their engine, they would let Honda provide engines for more than one team.
Hmm, might have a point on the Merc engine and not being the factory team. Anything is better than what they have now though. As to Honda only supplying one team and having more data by supplying a second team. Makes sense but this engine seems so far behind can't see that it would make a difference this year...crimeny, it can't even make it through a race.
That's pretty much what happens. Honda is paying an insane amount of money. To replace the H, McLaren would have to go back to a title sponsor.
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