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No. I see no reason to chase incremental product upgrades from year to year. If my current product meets my needs and is functioning well, I stay put. With that being said, I usually upgrade my iPad about every 3 to 4 years. I am currently on the 10.5” iPad Pro.
 
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The only reason I kept my 9.7” Pro was because I had a feeling a major redesign was coming in March or June 2018. Just think. And I’ll leave out the HDR OLED Display.

#1. A11X 6 or 8 Core CPU
#2. Low power DDR4 RAM
#3. New LG Chem Lipobattery
#4. Apple Pencil 2
#5. Improved 120hz ProMotion
#6. Redesigned body thinner lighter
#7. Face ID
#8. Dual Yes Dual Cameras
#9. Possible glass back and wireless charging but hoping not
#10. Bluetooth 5.0 finally.

Guesswork from the person who saw the headphone jack go away in 2017 iPads.
 
I purchased my 10.5” iPad Pro in June 2017, but honestly think I may well upgrade if the 2018 models do come with Face ID.

Any others who recently purchased an iPad Pro considering the same? Or would that not be worth it?

Really hard to say if a yet unknown device will be interesting enough to replace my current one. Probably not, at least for another 2-3 years.
 
Not sure I would

Face ID on iPad I’m not sure on. I don’t pick my Pro up often at work so Touch ID is ideal for that.

May just wait for the oled iPad
 
I would love to see how small of a package they can squeeze a 12.9" screen into. If it's not too much bigger than the current 10.5", I'm in. OLED won't be here on iPads until 2019 at best.

If the 10.5 got no bigger in overall size, the biggest the screen can be is 11.8” while maintaining the same aspect ratio.
 
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If the 10.5 got no bigger in overall size, the biggest the screen can be is 11.8” while maintaining the same aspect ratio.

So what would you guys rather have? Same size body of the current 12.9, but make the screen as large as possible, or same size screen as the current 12.9 but make the body as small as possible? I think I’d choose the latter, but only if the corresponding ASK would be just as comfortable to type on.

Speaking of which.. has anyone here typed on the ASK of the 10.5 and the 12.9? Is the 10.5 keyboard really a full-size typing experience?
 
My Minimal Upgrade Must haves and I’m using my 9.7 Pro.

#1. Apple Pencil 2 improvements that require the new 2018 Pro Model.
#2. OLED 120hz ProMotion Display
#3. iOS Requirements and Features that Leave Out 2GB RAM Devices.

IMO 2018 Models will get Everything BUT Not the OLED Displays.

OLED is everything it’s THE Future.

My Laptop is OLED, my HDTV LG OLED, my Phone Samsung S8+ OLED.
Just wish MacBook Pros would go OLED
 
The only reason I kept my 9.7” Pro was because I had a feeling a major redesign was coming in March or June 2018. Just think. And I’ll leave out the HDR OLED Display.

#1. A11X 6 or 8 Core CPU
#2. Low power DDR4 RAM
#3. New LG Chem Lipobattery
#4. Apple Pencil 2
#5. Improved 120hz ProMotion
#6. Redesigned body thinner lighter
#7. Face ID
#8. Dual Yes Dual Cameras
#9. Possible glass back and wireless charging but hoping not
#10. Bluetooth 5.0 finally.

Is that a confirmed list of updates or just your wish list?
 
Wish list

I don’t think I’d want the glass back either. I don’t need wireless charging for such a large device unless they figure out how to charge it from a distance. Then that would be really cool.
 
I've been down that road as well. This is why my current iOS devices will be my last if Apple doesn't make some changes. I don't say that with any animosity or anger, just stating a fact. When the time comes to replace what I currently have, I'll determine what alternatives are out there. I already have some promising options.
What are your impressions on iOS 11.2? I’m very satisfied finally, but concerned at how buggy these iOS 11 releases have been to create these performance issues. I mean if its that bad to begin with (on the most powerful devices no less) maybe Apple needs to rethink their release schedule for these updates. I would not mind waiting till November for each version of iOS if it meant it would be stable and 98% of highest performance potential of devices (no major stuttering or lock ups). It’s getting old to have these same issues/patterns every year.
 
What are your impressions on iOS 11.2? I’m very satisfied finally, but concerned at how buggy these iOS 11 releases have been to create these performance issues. I mean if its that bad to begin with (on the most powerful devices no less) maybe Apple needs to rethink their release schedule for these updates. I would not mind waiting till November for each version of iOS if it meant it would be stable and 98% of highest performance potential of devices (no major stuttering or lock ups). It’s getting old to have these same issues/patterns every year.
Overall, I think that iOS 11.x is a step backward. It might seem contradictory to conclude that ADDING features would cause something to go BACKWARD, but in this case that what I'm seeing.

For one (of many) example: The Files app was simply "bolted on" to the existing system and is essentially Apple's version of Documents by Readdle. The limitations of Documents is understandable because Readdle is just trying to do what they can with what Apple allows. When Apple released Files, they've confirmed, that is what they allowed and they're not going to move much further than that. What makes Files irritating for me to use is that while it LOOKS like Finder in macOS, it isn't. Rather than closing the gap in the iOS vs macOS user experience, it just got a bit wider.

Longer-term example: The fact that app developers must update their code to support multi-window reveals a significant limitation in Apple's approach to iOS. System level functions, like "running in a window" should be transparent to the app. There are many actively supported apps that do not support multi-window. To not have that capability for every app on a 12.9 iPad Pro (which displays 2 iPad 9.7 screens side-by-side) is poor execution. Many will blame the app developers, but this falls squarely on Apple's shoulders.

As for the stability of iOS 11.2, there's still some odd stuff going on with the iPads in our house (12.9 Pro and Air 2). To avoid getting the constant nagging to update to 11 on our iPhones (SE), I installed the tvOS 10 beta profile and we're staying at 10.3.x.

Having said that, for all the criticisms leveled at iOS 11, I think that iOS 11 is far more stable at this point in its lifecycle that iOS 7 ever was.
 
What are your impressions on iOS 11.2? I’m very satisfied finally, but concerned at how buggy these iOS 11 releases have been to create these performance issues. I mean if its that bad to begin with (on the most powerful devices no less) maybe Apple needs to rethink their release schedule for these updates. I would not mind waiting till November for each version of iOS if it meant it would be stable and 98% of highest performance potential of devices (no major stuttering or lock ups). It’s getting old to have these same issues/patterns every year.

I was looking forward to that Apple Pay system that is similar to PayPal. I thought we were supposed to get that with 11.2. Any ideas on when we’re getting that now?
 
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Probably Monday but “early next week” according to Apple Support.

I’d like to get rid of PayPal honestly. But they are everywhere. It would be nice to get rid of the need to carry cash around. I can’t wait to get rid of the whole wallet. I guess we need something to replace the driver’s license as well though.
 
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So what would you guys rather have? Same size body of the current 12.9, but make the screen as large as possible, or same size screen as the current 12.9 but make the body as small as possible? I think I’d choose the latter, but only if the corresponding ASK would be just as comfortable to type on.

Me? I’m happy with the 12.9 as it is. I prefer having bezels to avoid touching the screen. And I don’t think taking away the bezels of the 12.9 will make a huge difference in portability at that size anyway. I was just offering the user some hard numbers.
 
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I want the screen size in as small a form factor possible. The 12.9 is ginormous, comically so TBH. I don't think they'd release an 11.8" iPad, maybe a 12".

Either way, I'm very curious to see what they end up with.
 
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I want the screen size in as small a form factor possible. The 12.9 is ginormous, comically so TBH. I don't think they'd release an 11.8" iPad, maybe a 12".

Either way, I'm very curious to see what they end up with.
Pun intended.

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The Pro 12.9 is physically close to the same size as letter-size bond paper (8 1/2" x 11") with display area of around 7.7" x 10.3". During meetings, documents on 9.7/10.5 iPads look quite small compared to paper print outs while the 12.9 makes for a comfortably-sized alternative to wasting paper.

Mind, a 14" iPad would have a display the same size as letter-size bond paper and will be close to the size of two 10.5 iPads side by side.
 
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No. I just updated from the Air 2 to the 10.5 and nothing in the OP's wish list would induce me to do an upgrade. The price of new iPads has risen to the point where I'll now hold onto a device for 3 years at least.
 
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I purchased my 10.5” iPad Pro in June 2017, but honestly think I may well upgrade if the 2018 models do come with Face ID.

Any others who recently purchased an iPad Pro considering the same? Or would that not be worth it?

IMHO, not worth it in my case for that functionality. If there were some other compelling reason, I would certainly entertain it.
 
Probably won't be getting a future iPad pro.

I can't see apple philosophy changing away from ukta portable , low powered devices, for simplifed workflows . For that niche the 9.7 still works just fine .

To get me compelled to upgrade , I need a far better stylus experience , 8-16 GB ram, system wide ICC profile ability , and the power of desktop software . I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Luckily the windows tablets are several years ahead in this department . Who knows though , maybe someday apple will release a more pro ipad pro. Or at least the ability to turn the ipad into a monitor.
 
Probably won't be getting a future iPad pro.

I can't see apple philosophy changing away from ukta portable , low powered devices, for simplifed workflows . For that niche the 9.7 still works just fine .

To get me compelled to upgrade , I need a far better stylus experience , 8-16 GB ram, system wide ICC profile ability , and the power of desktop software . I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Luckily the windows tablets are several years ahead in this department . Who knows though , maybe someday apple will release a more pro ipad pro. Or at least the ability to turn the ipad into a monitor.

Check out Luna by Astropad.
Personally I find the iPad Pro needs software improvements more than hardware.
 
I made a list before of why I would upgrade, I looove my 2017 Pro. It’s the best Apple product just ahead of the iPhone X and Apple TV 4K. But if the 2018 model looks like either of these...
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And has following features, I’m in...
1.) Pretty much bezel-less so the screen size can be bigger or the footprint smaller. (12.9” or 13.3” screen size.)
1.) NO HOME BUTTON/Face ID.
2.) 4-6GB RAM.
3.) A11X Bionic Octa-core Processor. (I wish 4 were energy efficient and 4 were for pure processing power.)
4.) Even Better speakers.
5.) More efficient ProMotion.
6.) Apple Pencil 2.
7.) Bluetooth 5.0.
8.) iPhone X or iPhone 8 dual camera.
9.) Would love if it could play full and true HDR 4K movies and videos.

Even if the iPad Pro 3 doesn’t have everything I listed, I’d upgrade just if it became bezeless for smaller footprint or bigger screen, **£and no home button.
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