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Surprising Rodgers can still command such a big deal after a down year at the end of his career. Does he have two good years left in him to give the Jets a decent shot at a title?
I don't know if he has two good years left, but last season he played with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, making full recovery difficult, if not impossible. Given that this followed two consecutive MVP years, he at least deserves a shot at proving last year was an aberration, rather than a precipitous decline.
 
I don't know if he has two good years left, but last season he played with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, making full recovery difficult, if not impossible. Given that this followed two consecutive MVP years, he at least deserves a shot at proving last year was an aberration, rather than a precipitous decline.

Plus he was playing with a new WR corps. And one he was not happy about. At least now he has Lazard back.
 
Yeah, it is going to be a difficult time for Aaron & the Jets.

I wonder if Russel Wilson is hoping that media attention on Aaron & the Jets will make people forget about how Denver expected to become a Super Bowl contender when they acquired Wilson
 
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Given that this followed two consecutive MVP years, he at least deserves a shot at proving last year was an aberration, rather than a precipitous decline.

I'm sure there's also financial value in the additional buzz his presence brings. Even if he doesn't bring a title to the Jets, he'll keep people talking about them for quite some time, and that's gotta make the bean counters happy.
 
I'm sure there's also financial value in the additional buzz his presence brings. Even if he doesn't bring a title to the Jets, he'll keep people talking about them for quite some time, and that's gotta make the bean counters happy.
yeah, he'll sell jerseys...
 
The NFL draft is upon us, I have to say like other years I didn't watch. I remember years ago a work friend was getting excited to watch the draft and I was like why? No matter how you build it up, and the teams artificially slow the selection down to build up TV drama.

Anyways there doesn't seem too much surprises. The colts have QB, I'm not sure about Richardson, but I think he was the "best" QB on the board at #4

One question I had, was the Texans always prepared to take a QB. I thought they were shopping that pick around and/or happy with their QB. Don't get me wrong, C.J. Stroud is definitely an upgrade. If they had a decent QB, I think getting multiple picks and filling more holes then might have been a nice move.

The Pats and Steelers swapped spots - I'm not sure about that for the Pats, they got a decent CB but they only moved down 3 spots. I don't get that trade, at least if the Pats were the initiated it. I can see Pittsburgh moving up to get an OT because they were worried he'd not be there.
 
To be honest I don’t follow the talent closely enough to get involved in the draft or excited by who picks who. I see the sense in how the draft picks are traded, exceptional talents disappear quickly, but the impression I get is that every year there are good people, and sometimes great players come from a lot deeper in the draft. Witness Brady or Purdy last year.
 
To be honest I don’t follow the talent closely
I'm more of a college football fan, so its fun to see how the players I watched over the years get picked.

sometimes great players come from a lot deeper in the draft. Witness Brady or Purdy last year.
I could be wrong, but rarely do we see great players in the NFL who were drafted low. Brady, and Purdy are the exceptions, and even now we need to see more of Purdy to confirm he's the real deal.

What do generally see is highly rated players sink in the draft. Aaron Rodgers is a prime example. He was rated highly but team after team passed on him, to be honest, I don't know why.
 
I'm more of a college football fan, so its fun to see how the players I watched over the years get picked.

Yeah, US college football gets very little exposure over here. We have a free-to-air ESPN channel which shows NFL games regularly and if you follow a team you can see their game’s highlights on Youtube, but on the main local sports websites and so on there’s not much.

I can see how it adds to your enjoyment of the game though.

I could be wrong, but rarely do we see great players in the NFL who were drafted low. Brady, and Purdy are the exceptions, and even now we need to see more of Purdy to confirm he's the real deal.

What do generally see is highly rated players sink in the draft. Aaron Rodgers is a prime example. He was rated highly but team after team passed on him, to be honest, I don't know why.

That’s really interesting. What you see in Baseball is there is this long trajectory of development of the talent through the minors, and the quality of coaches in the minor league system seems to have quite a big impact. With the NFL though it looks to me like talent is a lot more ready to play immediately in the years following the draft. Is that right?
 
What you see in Baseball is there is this long trajectory of development of the talent through the minors
With baseball, the cream rises to the top, since each player usually his A, AA, AAA baseball and by the time they're in AAA their talent is verifiable. Plus playing styles is such, that a football player who was very successful in college will fail to experience the same level of success. Where as baseball, its more static, i.e., can they catch, throw, hit, run.
 
So I'm looking over the draft and I see the Falcons drafted a RB with their number 8 pick. They need a QB, they had one of the worst defenses last year and yet they picked a RB? Hasn't history shown them that you don't pick a RB in the first round?

I wonder if fans in ATL are up in arms or happy with the draft
 
The Jets are a.ready penciling in a SUper Bowl. But they aren't better than the Chiefs. I don't even know if they are as good as the Bills.
 
So I'm looking over the draft and I see the Falcons drafted a RB with their number 8 pick. They need a QB, they had one of the worst defenses last year and yet they picked a RB? Hasn't history shown them that you don't pick a RB in the first round?

I wonder if fans in ATL are up in arms or happy with the draft

RB's that high are not usually a good value. Though Robinson is a playmaker. But the Falcons do have a lot of other needs and I am guessing the next rated QB, Willis, didn't excite them. It sounds like htey went with the best player available strategy.
 
RB's that high are not usually a good value. Though Robinson is a playmaker. But the Falcons do have a lot of other needs and I am guessing the next rated QB, Willis, didn't excite them. It sounds like htey went with the best player available strategy.
No question - just look at Zeke, and how his performance fell off a cliff fairly quickly. The cowboys to their credit admitted that they probably shouldn't have picked him so high.

I did a bit of googling, but I don't know ATL's team that much but it seems they have a lot of needs on the defense. Is Desmond Riddler really their franchise QB for the rebuilding? Maybe they'll be tanking for a higher draft pick in 2024 and get a QB then. That's a thought ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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With baseball, the cream rises to the top, since each player usually his A, AA, AAA baseball and by the time they're in AAA their talent is verifiable. Plus playing styles is such, that a football player who was very successful in college will fail to experience the same level of success. Where as baseball, its more static, i.e., can they catch, throw, hit, run.

Except that people like Casas, a highly rated power hitter in the minors, still seem to need to make a big adjustment to play well in the majors. He is certainly not off to a flying start for the Red Sox.

I’ve only been following the NFL for a few years, long enough to know most of the rules of the game but certainly not to have an in-depth knowledge of the way the talent comes through.
 
So Will Levis was finally picked, him sliding into the second round means he'll only be tied to a 4 year contact not 4 with a 5th year rookie contract. Plus the actual dollar amount is going to be lower I believe.

In all honesty, with the teams that had a dire need of a QB, his slide is a real head scratcher. I already mentioned ATL but I think Washington missed the boat as well, along with Tampa. Then there's the Vikings - With so many questions surround Kirk Cousins, getting a quality QB should have been high on their list.

I came across this (dated the 26th) of the teams that could pick a QB
Latest Minnesota Vikings NFL Draft Buzz, Rumors, Reports: Trading Up For a QB?
Buzz continues to grow louder when it comes to the possibility of the Vikings making an aggressive move up for a QB.

  • Ian Rapaport mentioned the Vikings, along with the Lions (18th pick) and Buccaneers (19), as teams who could trade up if a QB falls.
  • Benjamin Allbright reports that Minnesota has been calling teams about moving up.
  • Brett Kollmann has the Vikings trading up all the way to pick 3 and selecting Richardson (over Stroud and Levis) in his annual mock draft. "This is kind of a combination of what I expect to happen and also what I would do if I was (the Vikings)," Kollmann said.
 
So Will Levis was finally picked, him sliding into the second round means he'll only be tied to a 4 year contact not 4 with a 5th year rookie contract. Plus the actual dollar amount is going to be lower I believe.

In all honesty, with the teams that had a dire need of a QB, his slide is a real head scratcher. I already mentioned ATL but I think Washington missed the boat as well, along with Tampa. Then there's the Vikings - With so many questions surround Kirk Cousins, getting a quality QB should have been high on their list.

I came across this (dated the 26th) of the teams that could pick a QB
Latest Minnesota Vikings NFL Draft Buzz, Rumors, Reports: Trading Up For a QB?

My impression from last season is that the Vikings have more urgent needs than replacing Cousins.......on defense especially, but also pass protection......and as fantastic a player that he is, Justin Jefferson can't be the only guy catching passes.
 
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than replacing Cousins.......on defense especially
I don't follow the Vikings, but here's what little I do know.

They have no real backup and after 2023, Cousins is a free agent (year 2024 is voidable to carry the cap) The defense from what I can google was ranked in the top 10, if not the top 5 (depending on who you look at). I'd say all things being equal that they're setting themselves up for failure by not lining up a replacement for Cousins.

To put it another way, If they picked up Levis in the first round, and just had him hold the clipboard and learn for a year, he would better prepared to play that position, then rolling the dice on a QB being available in 2024.
 
I don't follow the Vikings, but here's what little I do know.

They have no real backup and after 2023, Cousins is a free agent (year 2024 is voidable to carry the cap) The defense from what I can google was ranked in the top 10, if not the top 5 (depending on who you look at). I'd say all things being equal that they're setting themselves up for failure by not lining up a replacement for Cousins.

To put it another way, If they picked up Levis in the first round, and just had him hold the clipboard and learn for a year, he would better prepared to play that position, then rolling the dice on a QB being available in 2024.

From what I've read, Minnesota lost a number of defensive starters thru free agency, and also Adam Thielen, a long time starter at wide receiver was released to make salary cap room......so they had the need to find replacements for those starters who left.

Yes, they'll need a replacement for Cousins before long, but that's not their biggest problem at the moment
 
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In all honesty, with the teams that had a dire need of a QB, his slide is a real head scratcher.

Multiple NFL teams who interviewed Will Levis reportedly had personality concerns. He also dropped significantly statistically from 2021 to 2022 and his ceiling wasn't as high.
 
Multiple NFL teams who interviewed Will Levis reportedly had personality concerns.
I don't know about that, but from what I read, there was some sort of toe injury that he tried to get ahead of but failed. What sort of personality concerns were there?

He also dropped significantly statistically from 2021 to 2022 and his ceiling wasn't as high.
Some of his stats are certainly down for 2022 over 2021 but they seem to be more of his rushing. His passing stats don't look horrible, though there's a big uptick in sacks and his rushing yards is rubbish.

I don't know if his ceiling his high or low, but either way its a moot point. Teams let him slide till the 2nd round and Tenn. picked him up
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