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pachyderm

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What exactly makes him so horrible? Does he beat women? Beat kids? drive drunk and kill people or whatever other things "horrible" NFL players do? Or are you just a really sensitive...weak minded person who can't deal with someone who has different beliefs than you?
He's an idiot.
 
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GrumpyCoder

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I guess everyone who has different beliefs and different political leanings than you is an idiot right?
Probably not, but maybe everyone who is not following NFL rules or rules in general intentionally, is endangering others and at the same time lying about it is an idiot? That has nothing to do with beliefs or leanings, but simple facts.

He can listen to dolphins having sex all day long and if he believes that helps him to heal his injuries, that's on him. It's not going to do anything. At least he's doing no harm that way. That makes him an uneducated fool, which might be the same as an idiot.

Thought experiment... say you live in the suburbs, a few cars passing by slowly each day. Your teenage children can play on the street or cross the street safely and some guys decide they'll have street races there every now and then... would you call them idiots?
 
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TheIntruder

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MNF -- just the start, and long way to go, but not a good look for a vaunted Jets defense that got run over by a backup RB.

49ers offense left a lot of points on the table, but obviously didn't feel threatened by the Jets offense, so the kicker got a lot of work.
 
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Herdfan

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MNF -- just the start, and long way to go, but not a good look for a vaunted Jets defense that got run over by a backup RB.
Jordan Mason became the 10th UFA to rush for over 100 yards since Shanahan became coach of the 49'ers in 2017. Might be the system.
 
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Macky-Mac

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MNF -- just the start, and long way to go, but not a good look for a vaunted Jets defense that got run over by a backup RB.

49ers offense left a lot of points on the table, but obviously didn't feel threatened by the Jets offense, so the kicker got a lot of work.

definitely not a good night for the Jets offense either
 

TheIntruder

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Jordan Mason became the 10th UFA to rush for over 100 yards since Shanahan became coach of the 49'ers in 2017. Might be the system.

Plays a role, certainly.

But the irony is that Saleh was SF's Def. Coordinator for a few years, and went against that offense every day in practice. Schematically, both coaches know each other well.

Jets saw, and knew they were gonna run and still couldn't stop them.

On the flip side, Shanahan's system does tend to chew up personnel. McCaffrey was wise to get himself a new deal in the offseason.
 

bigjnyc

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Plays a role, certainly.

But the irony is that Saleh was SF's Def. Coordinator for a few years, and went against that offense every day in practice. Schematically, both coaches know each other well.

Jets saw, and knew they were gonna run and still couldn't stop them.

On the flip side, Shanahan's system does tend to chew up personnel. McCaffrey was wise to get himself a new deal in the offseason.

I was not surprised at all by this.... Saw it all last year, the Jets defense is great against the pass and rarely gives up big plays downfield..... but they get absolutely gashed by the run and by screens and short stuff underneath......
 
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rhett7660

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I feel like a lot of TV pundits were surprised by this. I wasn't. Watson isn't going to be that guy that gets anyone over the hump.

Well to be truthful, I was actually surprised. Not because of Watson, but because the Cowboys have been very late to the game in signing folks and I was looking forward to some rusty, out of sync, and downright bad playing by a few of the key players. Was pleasantly surprised... but they still have a ways to go.
 
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dmr727

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I think at this point Mr. Tua Tagovailoa should hang it up, before he does some permanent damage to himself. He did not look good after the collision. Not good at all.

Yeah, I feel absolutely terrible for him. That was tough to watch.
 

Herdfan

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As soon as they hit, the folks I was watching the game with new and yeah, it was tough to watch.

I didn't think the hit was all that brutal. It was helmet to shoulder pad. Just looking at the hit from the second angle, it looked like more of a neck injury than something that would have caused a concussion. Which just means he is very susceptible to them. Either it is just how he is built or the cascading effect of them. We know of two previous for sure, and maybe a third just in his time in the NFL.

But how many times did he get "his bell rung" in HS or even college that were never treated. I think his career is over. The only remaining issue is the money. He is still owed $124M and that would be hard to walk away from IF he is even medically cleared. Of course he and the Dolphins could come to a settlement.

I did find it a bit ironic that it was Damar Hamlin he hit.
 
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pachyderm

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I didn't think the hit was all that brutal. It was helmet to shoulder pad. Just looking at the hit from the second angle, it looked like more of a neck injury than something that would have caused a concussion. Which just means he is very susceptible to them. Either it is just how he is built or the cascading effect of them. We know of two previous for sure, and maybe a third just in his time in the NFL.

But how many times did he get "his bell rung" in HS or even college that were never treated. I think his career is over. The only remaining issue is the money. He is still owed $124M and that would be hard to walk away from IF he is even medically cleared. Of course he and the Dolphins could come to a settlement.

I did find it a bit ironic that it was Damar Hamlin he hit.
It looked bad to me. Full speed Helmet to stomach/chest area. And it looked really bad the way he just dropped. But even if it wasn't that bad with his history of concussions it wouldn't take much.

Same on the irony...
 
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