2024 Formula 1 Season thread

[Glideslope]

Man, both Mclaren and Red Bull need to be thrown out of the 2024 champion and either Charles, Lewis or George or should win it.

Apparently, Red Bull has this cheating system for over 3 years already.

FIA disagrees. It’s over. The FIA isn’t reviewing any CCT footage. As I stated prior, I saw no evidence of Max using his “Secret S-Tool” during practice. 😂

F1 is a circus. Zak is the Ringleader. It’s approaching NASCAR levels. It doesn’t surprise me.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Brilliant spring race. Loved it. Nice lot of action going on.

Well done Max, awesomely done Carlos.

 

[CWallace]

Honestly, if the Red Bull had been using the "S-Tool" to cheat, Max would not have performed as poorly as he has the past few months.

The Ferrari's looked really good in the Sprint. The AMGs not so much. And no idea what happened to Alonso.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Honestly, if the Red Bull had been using the "S-Tool" to cheat, Max would not have performed as poorly as he has the past few months.

The Ferrari's looked really good in the Sprint. The AMGs not so much. And no idea what happened to Alonso.

Nobody but Zak Brown is suggesting that. Classic diversion tactic that is working to get the attention away from their own issues.

 

[Glideslope]

Nobody but Zak Brown is suggesting that. Classic diversion tactic that is working to get the attention away from their own issues.

Spot on. Zak has always been about divert and project. He’s been like that since his wheel days.

Nice finish by Max setting fastest lap on 19.
He looks very comfortable. 😉

 

[BenTrovato]

Nobody but Zak Brown is suggesting that. Classic diversion tactic that is working to get the attention away from their own issues.

We can't know for sure if there was cheating or not is basically what the FIA said. They can't prove it, and now the part is sealed, ending the issue going forward. Zak Brown might be deflecting, but other teams aren't pursuing it because there's no benefit. If Ferrari or Mercedes were in the fight, they'd likely care more.

 

[pachyderm]

So George will have to start from the pits...? Right?

 

[JustinePaula]

Ok, I get the sprint to entertain, but the schedule, it is like having your 18th birthday party at 10am, then at 2pm off to write a uni entrance exam... Why not have qualifying before the sprint, then as the sun sets, the day is over??? Race then a 1 hour qualifying, somehow that is wrong...

 

[Apple fanboy]

So George will have to start from the pits...? Right?

Depends on the damage. Either way Norris owes him a drink! Max was a going to take pole.
Unfortunately I suspect Max will still drive off. He can afford to get his elbows out at turn 1. If he takes Norris and himself out, no lose in the drivers WC.

Now the question is do I stay up to watch it at 12:50 am? Not ideal with work tomorrow.

 

[pachyderm]

Depends on the damage. Either way Norris owes him a drink! Max was a going to take pole.
Unfortunately I suspect Max will still drive off. He can afford to get his elbows out at turn 1. If he takes Norris and himself out, no lose in the drivers WC.

Now the question is do I stay up to watch it at 12:50 am? Not ideal with work tomorrow.

I can't decide if I even care about this one. I don't like the US races.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Oh I quite like COTA

 

[Apple fanboy]

I can't decide if I even care about this one. I don't like the US races.

I know what you mean. Track limits, track limits, track limits.

Just stick some grass or gravel there and suddenly you'll find they won't go outside the line!

 

[Glideslope]

I know what you mean. Track limits, track limits, track limits.

Just stick some grass or gravel there and suddenly you'll find they won't go outside the line!

IMO, the Track Limits issues are heavily influenced by the growing girth of todays F1 Car. To their credit COTA has widened some turns, and white lines this year. While grass and gravel can be useful how much do we want to hold drivers back? These cars gain performance exponentially every year. Max's pole in the sprint was almost 2 seconds quicker than 2023.

I'm all in on making drivers stay within the lines, but how much risk do we want their safety? Hitting grass and gravel at 300kph is sketchy at best. I'll always favor more runoff areas.

Oh I quite like COTA

Agreed. COTA is one of the best. If you like overtakes and side by side this is your track.

 

[Apple fanboy]

IMO, the Track Limits issues are heavily influenced by the growing girth of todays F1 Car. To their credit COTA has widened some turns, and white lines this year. While grass and gravel can be useful how much do we want to hold drivers back? These cars gain performance exponentially every year. Max's pole in the sprint was almost 2 seconds quicker than 2023.

I'm all in on making drivers stay within the lines, but how much risk do we want their safety? Hitting grass and gravel at 300kph is sketchy at best. I'll always favor more runoff areas.




Agreed. COTA is one of the best. If you like overtakes and side by side this is your track.

If there is a large run off area, drivers will exploit it to the limits. Either do away with track limit deletions or stop them doing it with a physical deterrent. It works in other tracks.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

If there is a large run off area, drivers will exploit it to the limits. Either do away with track limit deletions or stop them doing it with a physical deterrent. It works in other tracks.

Yet, some drivers can drive within the limits. If you don't, there are consequences.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

IMO, the Track Limits issues are heavily influenced by the growing girth of todays F1 Car. To their credit COTA has widened some turns, and white lines this year. While grass and gravel can be useful how much do we want to hold drivers back? These cars gain performance exponentially every year. Max's pole in the sprint was almost 2 seconds quicker than 2023.

I'm all in on making drivers stay within the lines, but how much risk do we want their safety? Hitting grass and gravel at 300kph is sketchy at best. I'll always favor more runoff areas.




Agreed. COTA is one of the best. If you like overtakes and side by side this is your track.

Exactly, love the corner overtaking actions. Just look at the sprint race yesterday, it was fun and exciting. It is a circuit you need to keep your concentration as otherwise it bites back. One of my favourites of the season.

 

[JustinePaula]

I think the World Drivers Title should not be decided on points, but on total race time, you total up the race time for every race, around 75 hours and a couple of minutes, for track limits you add 5 seconds for each infraction.. For actual per race, 5 seconds for track limits violations.. But the title on time, not points..If you don't finish a race, then it is the time added of the last finisher +1 minute.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

I think the World Drivers Title should not be decided on points, but on total race time, you total up the race time for every race, around 75 hours and a couple of minutes, for track limits you add 5 seconds for each infraction.. For actual per race, 5 seconds for track limits violations.. But the title on time, not points..If you don't finish a race, then it is the time added of the last finisher +1 minute.

Great for a simulator whilst sitting in your pants with your beer bellie out, and one’s only friend. Utterly boring for spectators in my opinion.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Got to give Lewis a sense of humor. His pre race radio message “Damn this is far back” 🤣

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Aww poor Lewis. Such a brilliant start and now got beached. Shame as he did brilliantly.

 

[CWallace]

Good day to be a tifosi.

That was a hell of a final battle between Max and Lando. Had to give Max my DotD vote for his defense. I do think he may have done that move to get Lando to bite and pick up the penalty.

 

[Glideslope]

Congratulations to Charles .

Dominating performance from Ferrari. Wasn’t expecting the incredible tire wear.

Great last laps from Max and Lando. Master Defensive Drive from Max in an ill performing RB20. Lando had a faster car. Couldn’t get it done soon enough to offset the penalty.

Great drive to P10 from Franco. Carlos delivers another podium.😉 Mild job well done to Sky for showing allot of great mid pack racing.

On to Mexico.

 

[Glideslope]

Good day to be a tifosi.

That was a hell of a final battle between Max and Lando. Had to give Max my DotD vote for his defense. I do think he may have done that move to get Lando to bite and pick up the penalty.

Max definitely set Lando up. Another example of Lando’s immaturity. I would have thought he knew Max by now given all the Boat Parties in Amsterdam. 😉

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Well done to Charles.

The FIA in Max’s corner again, they gave the wrong driver the penalty today. Lando needs to stop avoiding collisions and let Max run into him, it’s the only way that message is going to get across.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Well done to Charles.

The FIA in Max’s corner again, they gave the wrong driver the penalty today. Lando needs to stop avoiding collisions and let Max run into him, it’s the only way that message is going to get across.

During the race I would have agreed with you. But seeing Anthony Davidson explain the difference it is actually quite clear why Lando got that penalty.

Max was defending, Lando was the aggressor, the overtaker, and Max was clearly ahead and had the line. Yes Max ended up exceeding the track limits and was noted for that, but Lando ended up overtaking outside the track whilst he was clearly behind max. Hence the kind of decision.

When you compare this to George Russel for example. George got the penalty because he was behind, and did an overtake on the inside. And as part of that overtake (on the inside) forced him off. So to the rules he was the agressor and thus caused him to go off.

So yes, consistent results by the stewards.