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2024 Formula 1 Season thread
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That's funny and well played!
Now watch Lando win the last two rqces and Max DNF both...
Talking about where to if put drivers, I would class Alonso as S also, Lewis as A, and Bottas as B, he won a few races when at Mercedes, he’s just in a poor car now. Perez should be at the bottom, if I recall Bottas was good at finishing in the top 5 consistently when he was Lewis‘s team mate? Perez is in the same car as Max and can’t even get into Q1 or Q2 qualifying let alone the top ten of the race!
2024 WDC proves why Max won in 2021, it is not about number of wins, it is 100% about consistent number of high positions... So in 2021, Max was just that tiny bit better over the WHOLE season, as he was in 2024, just that tiny bit more consistent in where he finished than Lando was..Or Lewis in 2021...
F1 WDC is calculated on the total of all events, so to someone that scores more points, comes the spoils.. Lando failed in this, will maybe be close, but sadly no one cares about 2nd place..
F1 WDC is calculated on the total of all events, so to someone that scores more points, comes the spoils.. Lando failed in this, will maybe be close, but sadly no one cares about 2nd place..
Let's say Horner had a melt down, and at the start of the season, hired Perez and MasterSpin as drivers, Red Bull would have finished last in the Constructors, maybe even left the series bankrupt.. Fact is, Max love or loath him, he has that extra 5% that elevates him from also ran to WDC.. We have seen this decade after decade, team after team, 1 driver just is that 5% better, WDC we call them, and the others, better of being bus drivers for the catering team..
Given the resources, the cars, the everything, and nothing, they just cannot.. I wonder, Max in the ASTON, might have won races.. Max would win Monaco if he was in a dumptruck, or that ice buggy thing Zamboni.. Lap Perez no question..
Max is 4 times WDC for a reason, he has the x factor.. WDC is such a rare event in F1, we only have a handful since 1950, yet count in the hundreds, if not 1000+ the total number of drivers that have competed in at least 1 event.. Some go hundreds of races, never win, never crowned WDC.. others come for a short time, win a WDC..
It is interesting to see who does what.. Lewis heading to Ferrari, hoping to get a title, he may Lando it, but Max it, doubtful.. Will see in 2025 what happens, the season now is all about the Constructors, even that is a mute point, as who constructs a whole car? It is all Amazon parts now...
It was a good race in the end, I agree about the rubbish though! Almost in every shot I could see rubbish and bags being blown about. Not a good look.
Constructors still wide open though.
And that also has to be THE most stupid way to conduct an interview ever, all to ensure the hotel was in the background to get its ad space. And Terry Crews bless him was totally lost lol.
Constructors still wide open though.
And that also has to be THE most stupid way to conduct an interview ever, all to ensure the hotel was in the background to get its ad space. And Terry Crews bless him was totally lost lol.
Last year it was cringe, and I'm surprised they repeated it. Furthermore, three in the back of a Rolls-Royce or any luxury car is not a good idea. Poor Lewis. And then where is the staff? I mean, come on, nobody getting into a car like that should have to open the door themselves. Nope, it was a weird, classless, awkward interview, and no value add whatsoever.
Constructors will still be interesting indeed.
Constructors will still be interesting indeed.
It doesn't prove why he won in 2021 at all lol. He won by a series factors outside of his control back then and had all but lost the championship whilst being 7 seconds down before a race director messed up and handed him the lead lol. Lets not get all spiritual here and suggest Max channeled the inner magic to pull that gift into his reach lol. He may have won more races and been unfortunate with losing points at Silverstone but that doesn't get away from the fact had the rules been followed correctly, he'd lost the championship by a whisker.
Contrast to this season and he fully deserves the victory as he has maintained consistency once his car performance slipped, and put himself into high points positions even when other drivers were winning. I didn't like some of his tactics with pushing opponents off the circuit, but with that aside, he was the best driver this year.
The 2024 season reminds me of 2009 in some ways. Much like Brawn in 2009, Red Bull started the 2024 season as the car to beat, with even Checo regularly scoring podiums. Their advantage waned in the second half of the season when they were challenged by a McLaren team on the rise, similar to Red Bull's rise in the latter part of 2009. Max's (and Button's) consistency with a car than no longer was able to fight for wins purely on pace was ultimately the decisive factor.
I half expect Red Bull to bounce back in 2025 and dominate, but it will be exciting to see how this regulation era ends before we are cast into the unknowns of 2026.
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Nope, just nope. Had the rules been applied consistently all season he would still be ahead. Heck let’s even delete that disputed race and Max is still ahead. Exactly due to the consistency as aforementioned.
And what happened during the race; well to quote the late queen “recollections may vary”. Crashes can happen, safety cars can happen, principles have exclaimed they don’t want to finish under a safety car, yet if they don’t win then it’s seen as wrong.
Since the season is nearly over and MV has Won, I decided to split the season in to regions. To see if there was much difference.
So Verstappen easily won the American races, Oscar Piastri was the champion of Europe.
And with 2 races to go Sergio Perez still has a chance of beating Verstappen in Asia(+Aus) if he out scores him by 21 points a race 😄
(There are probably mistakes and I only used points so when drivers have equal points they are not ordered by count back.)
So Verstappen easily won the American races, Oscar Piastri was the champion of Europe.
And with 2 races to go Sergio Perez still has a chance of beating Verstappen in Asia(+Aus) if he out scores him by 21 points a race 😄
(There are probably mistakes and I only used points so when drivers have equal points they are not ordered by count back.)
I agree, I said something similar about it reminding me of 2009 earlier, it was all about capitalising on an early points gain and keeping that consistency.
I was at the 2009 British GP and I think that was the first race of the season Button didn’t win lol.
I hope you're joking. I was cheering for Max just to see someone else win but Masi decided that only 5 cars could unlap themselves. It made zero sense, it was a farce. It was unjustifiable, and he was fired. Yeah, recollections may vary.
Recollections definitely do vary, he wasn't fired. We can begin there to debunk that one immediately.
Splitting hairs a little here.
He was fired from his role, not the organization. He was removed as race director and offered another role within the FIA. He remained an FIA employee until he left in July. Additionally, the FIA found the handling of the safety car was indeed against the rules on 2 counts.
Additionally, Saudi Arabia was also against the rules as the grid was set using Masi offering Red Bull a deal to avoid giving Max a penalty - without involving the stewards.
The FIA is better off without Masi.
Not the sports finest hour to be sure.
The ranking is based on Japanese academic grading and advertising where "S" is the highest tier ("S"uperior to all others). It often appears in Japanese video games.
For the record, my rankings were solely for the 2024 F1 season and do not reflect "lifetime achievement".
The wind was really strong and that likely caught a lot of stuff and carried it over the catch-fencing.
The Rolls-Royce Phantom's rear doors close via a button in the B pillar. Maybe these were RR Ghosts (the lesser model based on the BMW 760) and those doors are manual.
I am very old, I grew up watching public tv, that would cross to the start of the race, literally as the lights went green, back then green for go... Then when the flag was waved, cut to some lame wildlife documentary, if the race was red flagged, then you waited for the news.. Some bright spark came up with the idea of an in studio discussion, boring...
I really truly hate the crap SkyF1 delivers, it is cringe cubed, it is the worst form of wasting time, and it goes on for hours, then there is the damn notebook, how many a weekend, pay 3 blokes to sit in a box in a studio in Manchester/Liverpool, Auckland..and commentate on what they see on the telly...
Glad the series is all over, Max is champ, well done, a great worthy villain, the only sad part is that 2 races are dead, have no value, maybe for constructors, but who cares.. About who gets more points, maybe every team gets the same number of US Dollars, and your ranking buys you so many more hours of wind tunnel time.. For example winner winner chicken dinner gets say 24 hours, 2nd 20 hours, and so on..
I really truly hate the crap SkyF1 delivers, it is cringe cubed, it is the worst form of wasting time, and it goes on for hours, then there is the damn notebook, how many a weekend, pay 3 blokes to sit in a box in a studio in Manchester/Liverpool, Auckland..and commentate on what they see on the telly...
Glad the series is all over, Max is champ, well done, a great worthy villain, the only sad part is that 2 races are dead, have no value, maybe for constructors, but who cares.. About who gets more points, maybe every team gets the same number of US Dollars, and your ranking buys you so many more hours of wind tunnel time.. For example winner winner chicken dinner gets say 24 hours, 2nd 20 hours, and so on..
Recollections do vary, indeed. As I said, he was NOT fired. And there are some other subjective interpretations as well. But that was in 2021, it's been done so many times. And when the basics aren't being covered correctly, or dismissed as splitting hairs, and expanded with personal conjecture (better of without...) there is never going to be a single recollection.
Anyway, the original comments came from a to be expected corner of fans of the sport, something that has been a strong news topic as well. And still many are at it, and I'm sure it will long continue in this thread as well.
I like the technical broadcast quality from Sky Q, but can't stand Sky Q, nor Viaplay. I'm using F1TV via an Apple TV, or cast from my phone. It is so much better and more enjoyable to watch.