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The-Real-Deal82

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Ferrari SF-24

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Glideslope

macrumors G3
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While about the AMR24, it does speak of changes to the rear suspension that will be part of the W15.


The adoption of the new Push Rod rear suspension over the old Pull Rod will be the largest contributor IMO. Allot has been made about changes to the front suspension and the revised geometry assisting anti dive aero. I think the new Push Rod suspensions out back are the key to putting the power down on exit. This really was the RB19''s largest strength IMO. Time will tell how well the executions are here......
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Looks like Ferrari (and by extension, HAAS) is the only team that is sticking with a pullrod rear suspension.

Surprising to see that too, as Aston Martin and Mercedes have followed Red Bull with that development. Ferrari have split the nose away from the main part of the front wing to direct airflow to the floor which Red Bull had last year, Mercedes and Aston Martin didn’t I don’t believe. Just hoping the field is tighter as it was getting that way towards the end of last season. Red Bull may have pulled further ahead, or gone backwards, this is F1 after all and one thing I have learned in the 35 years of watching is no team should be too complacent when upfront. Adrian Newey isn’t the only top talent on the grid despite what many think.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Its quite painful to see such a prestigious team produce yet another hideous looking car, lacking any brand identity and plastered in sponsors. I certainly hope it is fast though, but McLaren, Williams, Alpine and Haas have produced some rather unattractive racing cars. At least Kick Sauber is eye catching with its colours and it is a temporary livery. Red Bull is Red Bull with its branding, but livery changes are always subtle.
 

pachyderm

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Apple fanboy

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The comparison between the 2023 car (top) and that of 2024 (bottom) shows how much area has been taken away from the lower part of the sidepod front and how some radiator area appears to have been re-sited further up, around where the cooling louvres are...
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As long as it’s faster than a RB I don’t care what it looks like!

Not long to wait now though.
 

CWallace

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Been watching The Race's videos examining all the new cars and I do have hope that McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes will at least be far closer to RBR in the CC at the end of the season then they were at the end of last season.
 

Apple fanboy

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Been watching The Race's videos examining all the new cars and I do have hope that McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes will at least be far closer to RBR in the CC at the end of the season then they were at the end of last season.
Assuming the team who have been working on this years car for the longest, haven’t taken another huge step forward.
 

CWallace

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Assuming the team who have been working on this years car for the longest, haven’t taken another huge step forward.

Red Bull certainly benefitted from Adrian Newey and his team's innate understanding of aerodynamics so they knew how to best to take advantage of the Ground Effects era when it launched in 2022 which gave them a leg-up on everyone else.

But the other major teams now seem to understand how GE works, as well, and we're seeing that in the changes they implemented across 2023 and are implementing into their 2024 cars. Yes, Red Bull will have its innate advantage as it is refining a winning formula and I expect Max to win the WDC and RBR to win the CC. But I am hoping they don't just run away with it every race like they did in 2023, when it was clear they understood GE far better than any other team did.

I am hoping we see with the other teams in 2024 what we saw with double diffusers in 2009. Brawn was not the only team to start the season with it, but it was clear they understood it far better than Toyota and Williams did and they romped away at season start. But once the other teams (like Red Bull) studied it and adopted it, their own performance improved and they rapidly closed the gap to Brawn such that at the end, it was a very close call as to who would win the WDC and CC.
 

Apple fanboy

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Red Bull certainly benefitted from Adrian Newey and his team's innate understanding of aerodynamics so they knew how to best to take advantage of the Ground Effects era when it launched in 2022 which gave them a leg-up on everyone else.

But the other major teams now seem to understand how GE works, as well, and we're seeing that in the changes they implemented across 2023 and are implementing into their 2024 cars. Yes, Red Bull will have its innate advantage as it is refining a winning formula and I expect Max to win the WDC and RBR to win the CC. But I am hoping they don't just run away with it every race like they did in 2023, when it was clear they understood GE far better than any other team did.

I am hoping we see with the other teams in 2024 what we saw with double diffusers in 2009. Brawn was not the only team to start the season with it, but it was clear they understood it far better than Toyota and Williams did and they romped away at season start. But once the other teams (like Red Bull) studied it and adopted it, their own performance improved and they rapidly closed the gap to Brawn such that at the end, it was a very close call as to who would win the WDC and CC.
Indeed. But Brawn didn’t have much in the way of development during that season as I recall.
Also Jenson Button is no match for Max Vestapan.
 
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