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2025 Apple TV 4K: All the Rumors So Far
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I want a TV with Apple's TV OS installed (+native Airplay). I'm tired of all these AndroidTV etc. OS with ads and tracking.
At this point, AppleTV updates seem to be mostly about cost reduction and supply-chain optimization.
With Best Buy stopping sales of optical media (DVD’s/ Blu-rays/uhdbr) and faster WiFi can this enable “true 4k streaming” tier from content providers in 2025 possibly?
Seems delivery bandwidth is getting to that, and WiFi in home to match.
And finally the streaming sucks vs physical media argument will be mute then.
Seems delivery bandwidth is getting to that, and WiFi in home to match.
And finally the streaming sucks vs physical media argument will be mute then.
Call me optimistic but my dream Apple TV gets rebranded as HomePod Hi-Fi Video, a 3.1.2 Computational-Spatial-Atmos-whatever Soundbar.
Five 8k60HDR HDMI: 4 in, 1 out
- Future-proofs for imminent 8k sources
- Enables 4*4k SplitView for the majority of 4k sources and content
- Turns HpHFV into a smart home RGB light sync box
- Receives audio directly eliminating Home Theater’s reliance on eARC and wireless protocol
Onboard FaceTime Camera
- Stereo ultra wide lens captures a majority of the room
1. Compliments the TV’s viewing angels
2. Encourages central placement in the room
3. Turns HpHFV into a Smart Display
- Spatial capture reinforces the ecosystem for Apple Vision Pro users
A Siri-mote with Apple Watch fast-charge cradle
- Integrates a charger that would otherwise be a separate adapter and cable, be unsightly, and that could get lost
- A U1 UWB chip enables Precision Finding from iPhone’s Remote interface
- An AirTag chiptune speaker and Taptic Engine vibration motor aid in locating
* I understand wireless charging will require a plastic cutout on the back (glass was awful on the remote here). My opinion: make the back Apple logo bigger and out of plastic? IDK I’m not a designer
HomePod Personal Services becomes Personal Apps
- Clock, Weather, Maps, News, and finally, Home(!), debut on the big screen
- Standby keeps the time up like a wall clock while not in use
- Wake to Room turns HpHFV more into a home fixture
- Contacts, Calendar, Reminders, Find My, and Health are all available as Personal Apps
- A plethora of new apps on the Home Screen can shine brightest with XL iPad Widgets
It might sound like a train wreck at first, but it would cut middle men Smart TV’s, their awful interfaces, and tracking out of the picture. At the same time, I can put up a video game, a TV show/movie stream, the Home or Weather app, and a SharePlay FaceTime call. It’d almost be like buying 4 4k TVs
As for some of the other things that I had been seeing like DTS, I guess I’ve been living under a rock and hope some of those things can fit well here once I learn about them
Five 8k60HDR HDMI: 4 in, 1 out
- Future-proofs for imminent 8k sources
- Enables 4*4k SplitView for the majority of 4k sources and content
- Turns HpHFV into a smart home RGB light sync box
- Receives audio directly eliminating Home Theater’s reliance on eARC and wireless protocol
Onboard FaceTime Camera
- Stereo ultra wide lens captures a majority of the room
1. Compliments the TV’s viewing angels
2. Encourages central placement in the room
3. Turns HpHFV into a Smart Display
- Spatial capture reinforces the ecosystem for Apple Vision Pro users
A Siri-mote with Apple Watch fast-charge cradle
- Integrates a charger that would otherwise be a separate adapter and cable, be unsightly, and that could get lost
- A U1 UWB chip enables Precision Finding from iPhone’s Remote interface
- An AirTag chiptune speaker and Taptic Engine vibration motor aid in locating
* I understand wireless charging will require a plastic cutout on the back (glass was awful on the remote here). My opinion: make the back Apple logo bigger and out of plastic? IDK I’m not a designer
HomePod Personal Services becomes Personal Apps
- Clock, Weather, Maps, News, and finally, Home(!), debut on the big screen
- Standby keeps the time up like a wall clock while not in use
- Wake to Room turns HpHFV more into a home fixture
- Contacts, Calendar, Reminders, Find My, and Health are all available as Personal Apps
- A plethora of new apps on the Home Screen can shine brightest with XL iPad Widgets
It might sound like a train wreck at first, but it would cut middle men Smart TV’s, their awful interfaces, and tracking out of the picture. At the same time, I can put up a video game, a TV show/movie stream, the Home or Weather app, and a SharePlay FaceTime call. It’d almost be like buying 4 4k TVs
As for some of the other things that I had been seeing like DTS, I guess I’ve been living under a rock and hope some of those things can fit well here once I learn about them
Gaming. Lol. Apple doesn't get gaming, never has, never will.
Agreed, but even then I don't think it will move the needle. The overwhelming perception out there among gamers is that Apple sucks for gaming and that perception is deeply rooted at this point. Apple has blown it so many times when it comes to gaming.
Apple is throwing tons of money at Apple TV+, yet almost no one watches it. They haven't had a break-out show. Netflix has 10x the number of the subscribers according to most reports, despite the billions of dollars Apple blows each year on (mediocre, at best) content.
I don't think gaming would be much different. Apple can throw billions of dollars at developers to port, but most gamers have already made up their minds about Apple and will continue to choose PCs and consoles for gaming.
Given the home hub function of AppleTV, perhaps it’s time to add NAS functionality with a one built-in TB4 port?
How does that square with the concept of Apple offering the iPhone 15 for potentially 2 further years as cost reduced phones within the range? I somehow doubt Apple think so little of the A17 Pro that they upset their range because it's a 'dead-end' CPU.
It might well be an evolutionary dead end in theory but as long as yields improve over time Apple could end up manufacturing the iPhone 15 as is for 3 years, can't see them doing anything else. Besides which, if the evolutionary 'dead-end' runs hot for a certain level of performance - that might be an issue in a fan-less iPhone but an AppleTV has active cooling - it won't be an issue going forward and if Apple has plans to use this CPU in a future iPhone SE (the SE2022 uses A15) then why wouldn't they use it in a 2024 iPhone SE?
And putting in an A16 into the next AppleTV when the current one has an A15 doesn't seem like much of an update to me. Same thinking applies in the event that Apple want to do a iPhone SE 2024 - and that could be clocked down to avoid heat issues in a smaller body.
Offering the next year's A18Pro in the AppleTV pre Q1 2025 would also seem unlikely due to supply chain constraints - like this year Apple will likely be needing every A18Pro they can make for the iPhone 16 Pro. I think once the supply chain improves there's no reason that CPU couldn't be used in other lower volume products such as AppleTV and perhaps iPhone SE 2024.
Really feels like the Apple TV could be so much more of a smart home hub.
At the moment Apple is not even trying on this front with AppleTV, which is disappointing for a company that is all about interconnectivity between various devices.
At the moment Apple is not even trying on this front with AppleTV, which is disappointing for a company that is all about interconnectivity between various devices.
An Apple TV with glass on top with MagSafe. Maybe do a natural titanium version like the phone
i love my ATV, but for me, the only thing that i would really love to see would be a USB(-C) port, as some others already had mentioned too, to connect some external drives to
How is the whole "Pro" thing losing its meaning? All my Pro devices (iPhone, Macbook, AirPods, iPad) are a clear step better than their non-pro siblings.
Except that need not be the case for future ATVs. IMO Apple is nuts if they do not provide an ATV choice with power for gaming. No, not an attempt to directly compete with furnace-hot full-on PC boxes, but since Apple chips are strong enough, make that power available on a higher level ATV choice and see what devs do with it.
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That only works in all-Apple homes. We're a mix of Apple and Android.
We have very little smart home stuff as it doesn't really appeal to the wife or I, but HomeKit won't work either way.
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The ATV is better than any other device for streaming. The only thing they need to add is codec support.
I personally like the Roku interface better than the Apple TV. I have a 4k Apple TV that I've had for years, but rarely use it.
I don't care about gaming, so anything they do in that regard is of no interest to me.
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I would like to see a new Apple TV that connects to multiple HomePods for Atmos surround sound, not just two front HomePods. People have been asking this for a long time now, but Apple doesn't seem to listen to what customers would like.
It's typical of Tim Cook to cut costs on R&D and not pass those savings on to customers. He might even increase the prices.
The iPhone 15 doesn’t have an A17. It uses the A16 which is on N4 - a long term support node for TSMC. Only the 15 Pro uses the A17 Pro which is on N3B and Apple always discontinues their Pro models after a year.
Normally the chip in the Pro model becomes the chip in the base model of the next year. But it’s already been widely rumored that that is not happening next year. Apple will use an N3E chip in both the Pro and non-Pro iPhones - using the same strategy they used in the iPhone 13 generation where the regular iPhone got a cut down version of the Pro (one fewer GPU “core”).
Likely the A18 (non-Pro) in the iPhone 16 will be broadly similar to the A17 Pro in performance but substantially easier/cheaper for Apple to manufacture. Thats the chip that will hang around for a long time and go into things like Apple TVs and iPhone SEs and whatnot.
For the 2022 model, the price dropped to $150 for the 128gb model and $129 for the 64gb. I believe former prices were $180 for 64 and $150 for $32.
2010 models were $99.
Perhaps lowering the price hoping to make it back in subs.
Of course, if they ever come out with something amazing and special, I expect the prices to shoot up to $200+.
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I am looking forward to get this next generation Apple TV. Hopefully sooner than expected. The earlier, the better.😊