When he announced his retirement, I suspected the reason was he could not do it twice...And that going forward he would only look more and more foolish.. A bit like a certain driver from Spain driving for a team that has ideas about spending money.. Money does not buy success.. it only buys headaches!!!
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2025 Formula One Season Thread
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It was such a messy season and I agree, I think even when you look at the results, Nico realised he wasn’t going to be that lucky again. I think despite Lewis having more mechanical issues that year, the crash in Spain whilst Nico was about to be overtaken by Lewis was a pinnacle moment and desperate. Austria showed Nico’s ruthless side too, the last lap attempt to take Lewis out of the race very nearly worked but I think Nico knew he had to do anything he could as it was his last chance. Very exciting to watch though even if I hated the result and one I accepted as it was ultimately decided on the race track.
I feel that Nico doesn't get the credit he deserves. He consistently pushed Lewis and is a worthy champion in his own right.
He could've won the 2014 season had Abu Dhabi gone differently. Remember that the race gave 50 points in 2014 and Rosberg had his only finish of the season outside of the points due to a mechanical failure (ERS failure). Had he won that race and Lewis finished third, for example, then he would've been champion already in '14.
2015 was probably his weakest year with Mercedes despite winning 6 races. It was then he realized that beating Lewis would require him to push harder than ever in 2016. Sure, he got lucky with Lewis's engine failure in Malaysia, but luck had worked against him in Abu Dhabi 2014, so things evened out in the end. He wasn't willing to make the same sacrifices again after winning in 2016 and wasn't interested in just racing for the odd win, so he left.
Luck plays a role in many championship outcomes, and I don't think it's a reason to dismiss the winners. They would never be in a position to win in the first place without performing well for the rest of the season. Just look at Lewis in 2008, passing Glock on the last lap, or imagine 2021 if Latifi doesn't crash in Abu Dhabi.
"imagine 2021 if Latifi doesn't crash in Abu Dhabi"
To put to rest any debate as to 2021... 2 aspects conspired to cost Lewis the 2021 title, Santa Bottas and Lewis thinking he was the best button designer/positioner on the planet.. Baku.. Those 2 aspects cost Lewis the title, not Max, not Red Bull, not a safety car, not a marshall, not Latifi, no other humans apart from Lewis, Bottas and Wolff..
There was no luck involved... 2021, Red Bull had the better team, they were gifted points, but that was through bad management of Mercedes in who they employed in the 2nd car that year.. And a bad button placement in Baku..
Just how that involves Latifi.. I am confused..
To put to rest any debate as to 2021... 2 aspects conspired to cost Lewis the 2021 title, Santa Bottas and Lewis thinking he was the best button designer/positioner on the planet.. Baku.. Those 2 aspects cost Lewis the title, not Max, not Red Bull, not a safety car, not a marshall, not Latifi, no other humans apart from Lewis, Bottas and Wolff..
There was no luck involved... 2021, Red Bull had the better team, they were gifted points, but that was through bad management of Mercedes in who they employed in the 2nd car that year.. And a bad button placement in Baku..
Just how that involves Latifi.. I am confused..
Nico was a tough teammate and luck plays its part for sure when a season is competitive. If Lewis had all the luck going his way he could also be a 10 times WDC now with close finishes in 2007, 2016 and 2021, but thats the unpredicatbility of motorsport. A sport without heartache and passion would be very dull indeed.
I look back at 2008 and realise Lewis was very lucky to win despite being the better driver in statistically the marginally second best package that season. That last lap overtake was incredible as Toyota's slick tyre gamble nearly paid off but I think other incidents that season were more challenging for Lewis and McLaren. It was the aftermath of SpyGate and the News of The World had also exposed Max Mosley and his infidelity, and some think Ron Dennis may have played a part in that in retaliation to McLaren's $100m fine. The FIA back then were very much trying to flex an iron fist and penalties seemed to be decided by the race with different outcomes depending on the teams involved. Lewis and his incredible Spa win being stripped an hour after the race had finished drew a lot of criticism. Massa being released into the path of Sutil in Valancia and the stewards spending the best part of 30 laps investigating it to run the clock down, meant he only got a €10,000 fine as opposed to the standard 10 second stop and go penalty others like Rosberg and Heidfeld had at other events, meant he was able to clinch another important win. All that without Singapore too. Hamilton winning was the perfect two fingers up to the FIA as they did a lot to try and prevent it happening.
I think Red Bull were lucky with the lifeline they got with the unusual ad lib rule change lol. Lots of other scenarios could also have changed the result like Lewis going past Max at Silverstone and Max finishing behind instead of crashing out, Monza where Max took himself and Lewis out, all meant the season was kept close. Ultimately though Abu Dhabi was the shootout deciding race and Lewis was cruising to victory before Red Bull got that controversial lifeline from Michael Masi. Hopefully we never see a World title decided by a race director again and the sport at least learned from it.
The arrival of corporate Lewis lol. Cool F40 too👌🏻
Not his usual outfit! I like him as a driver, but generally I think he is to fashion what I am to top drivers!
No, I was kind of expecting a red ski jacket, a top hat and a pair of wellies all made by Gucci, but he looks cool here.
Michael Schumacher tended to dress quite flamboyantly with some very questionable choices during his time at the Scuderia too, so I think Maranello will be used to it.
Someone clearly advised him on how to dress like an Italian Count (Conte), super stylish and smart choice of colour of tie.
PS. Was it Lewis who borrowed Lando's F40
Looks the part of the fashion designer for the catering team...
More like the kind of salesman that conned Jeremy Clarkson into buying a Lambo tractor..
More like the kind of salesman that conned Jeremy Clarkson into buying a Lambo tractor..
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I'm sure his new race engineer is called Paulie and if the strategist gets it wrong, Lewis put it in the contract that he gets whacked.Honestly he looks more like he belongs in Palermo than Maranello.
He didn’t and still doesn’t get credit for his performance. Could not agree more.
Sharp dressed man.
Unexpectedly, but the "Yankees" of auto racing also has their dress code.
AM could spend $100 billion to try to land Max, or whoever else, but it will be hard to take them seriously as long as nepo baby occupies one of the seats.
AM have a problem, 1 driver that needs a zimmer frame in the frunk, and 1 that is just there cause daddy has issues with the letters N and O.. It makes a mockery of the circus that is F1.. "Best drivers.." hahaha... I don't have a problem with the letters n and o..
Not so sure about this outfit, what was he thinking?
He looks fast though.
He looks fast though.
Just think. He earns more money posing for this photograph than you and I did in 2025!
As long as he is within 106.99% of pole, he has a chance of at least 20th...
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This was fun to watch. Might be a paywall ... sorry if so. I have a free account so I was able to view.
Yes definitely fun to watch. It’s also why I love going to F1 Classics. A great way to get up close and personal with those car. And some amazing characters still racing them today.How iconic cars from F1 history changed the sport
With the start of the 2025 season fast approaching, the F1 teams will be soon be revealing their 2025 cars to the world, each hoping that their challenger might one day earn a place amongst the most influential cars in the sport’s history. But which cars from Formula 1’s past have already...
This was fun to watch. Might be a paywall ... sorry if so. I have a free account so I was able to view.