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"Blockbuster" is probably a stretch.

Hammering out a film on non traditional cameras was done in one of the series as the article mentioned, as was Blair Witch Project to an extent and many others.

The feature was it was meant to be more raw, POV-type hand held cinematography, not just convenience. In this case if you want the raw iPhone experience, at various points the camera should be rotated as the has to check their emails and notifications.
 
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Of course it’s a marketing stunt but I’m still very curious to see what’s possible.
Yes, that will be interesting.

It’s perfectly possible to make cool rigs yourself with a very low budget. Of course a professional dolly system is easiest to use but you can for example use some LEGO tracks and an elastic band, just to name something. And the cheaper and lighter the camera is, the less robust your rigs have to be. If this project shows in addition to low budget stuff like that you also don’t require a BlackMagic camera anymore, that’s just really exciting stuff to all amateur cinematographers out there.

A brand new Pyxis is ~$3,000, about ~$1,400 more than an iPhone 16 Pro with 1TB. Not sure you save much after you add the cost of the iPhone lens mounts, cages, etc., nor am I clear what the benefit would be. One can get a Blackmagic Pocket Pro 6K Cinema used with lenses and a cage, for less than an iPhone Pro. Just not sure this opens anything new. As an artistic choice, I am totally happy to see the results, as a competitor to inexpensive cinema cameras, not sure of the benefits.

I do find it funny that you compare it to a Blackmagic camera, the company that has done the more to democratize production than anyone out there.

And come on, complaining about lenses? With a grand you can get multiple second hand L lenses. If it’s your hobby you can take a few years to really get to know your stuff and in the meantime save up for that.

Sorry, these are not being shot on second had L-mount lenses. From watching several of the Shot on iPhone commercials one can see they are shooting with Zeiss Supremes or Arri Signatures. However, if one is comparing the cost of used lenses, then one should also be looking at used cameras and at that point the cost difference between the iPhone and the inexpensive cinema cameras disappears, but most of the advantages for the cinema cameras remain.

This project will show (or disprove, haha) what a team of professionals can do with a smartphone camera sensor and that’s just cool, whether you like it or not. I think all amateur cinematographers here have brighter eyes after reading this and are excited to see the results and the people exaggerating rig costs in the comments here are probably people who’ve never done a professional video project and won’t even know what to look for when watching the end result.

Anyone who looks at this project and thinks: “Wow, I can buy an iPhone and make a film that looks like that.” is delusional. As the saying goes: “Roger Deakins can shoot a better film with the backup camera of a Prius, than most DP’s can shoot with an Alexa 35.” This just shows that a very talented crew with a lot of money and support can take some of the constraints away from shooting on an iPhone. There have been some very interesting projects shot with just an iPhone (not an iPhone and lots of extra gear), that show what can be done. These projects with very expensive rigging are not really meaningful examples.

This is cool to me and I hope they’ll make an elaborate behind the scenes video to explain and show more!

My question to you is what benefit do you see in using the iPhone?

The gear surrounding the camera for a professional shoot dwarfs the cost of the device (even if one gets it inexpensively). An unrigged iPhone would let you shoot run and gun in some places that one could not go with an Alexa 35, but in many of those places, a Blackmagic Pocket Pro 6K Cinema without an elaborate cage can work as well.
 
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Seems a bit deceptive to claim it’s shot on an iPhone when there’s so much extra kit attached

No more so than saying that something was shot on an Alexa 35 when they added $150,000 Signature Primes. It just does not show anything other than talented people with appropriate gear can make movies.
 
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So many expert cinematographers here passing judgement. Without bothering to understand the reasoning behind the decision.

Actually, people on both sides of the argument seem not to get it. If it is being done for artistic reasons like the FaceTime episode of Modern Family, it is great. If it is done as a gimmick, it is a waste. :)
 
This video is misleading. He does a comparison at 4.9x zoom. Yes well you’re not using the 5x zoom lens at that level so of course it’s going to look bad.
Even at 3x and 4x zoom it is a problem. Cropping means you lose most of the light and most of the resolution, while a real camera with a real zoom will use all pixels.

Apple also cheats with the f-stop. They quote the full frame equivalent of the focal length, but use the real focal length in the formula for the f-stop. So they say the main camera is 26mm and f/1.6 for example. That is a blatant lie. The real f-stop is in the range of f/20 or worse.
 
Whatever happened to 28 months later??

Apple definitely chipped in a lot of cash to make this happen. It just doesn’t make sense once you have a rig that big with all those lenses to not use a large 8K sensor that is less noisy, allows for better creative cropping in post, has better dynamic range, has greater depth of field, and is less of a PITA in general to work with. With this you lose all the benefits of a tiny rig. A RED Cinema camera doesn’t add much more bulk to this setup, and with a 75 million dollar budget there is no reason to not use one.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Apple ends up with exclusive streaming rights for this after the theatrical release, on Apple TV+.
 
I seem to remember reading an article at the time that while they shot the original on Canon XL1s, didn't they also have a lot of extras tacked onto them too? As someone who used Canon XL1s at the time, I could never get them to look anywhere near as good as the footage from 28 Days Later.
 
Hollywood productions shot on iPhone don't make a lot of sense to me, but it's interesting nonetheless. If we look at the huge lens rigged up on the right side of the image, they might as well have attached a camera with a bigger sensor.
Makes sense if I'm an amateur film maker with an iPhone in my pocket
 
What a terrible idea, it really won’t be as good quality as RED or Canon or Panasonic pro cameras can achieve with FAR bigger sensors. But if they want to waste their money let them I guess?
 
That is just a PR stand.
Tony Northrup recently broke down how bad an iPhone camera is compared to a professional camera. From a professional filmmaker's or photographer's standpoint with a big budget it does not make sense to use an iPhone, if you could afford a real camera.

Here is the video:

My iPhone camera is amazing on my 14 Pro Max it’s brilliant and takes excellent photos and videos, but I’m an amateur and I point and click, and my iPhone is the camera I always have with me.
I do NOT expect it to match a pro digital SLR or pro cini camera from RED or Canon etc. a camera where you need experience and training to get the most out of as it’s designed for pros. I totally agree with your comment, for a 75 million budget I think they could afford to hire some pro camera’s.
 
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That is just a PR stand.
Tony Northrup recently broke down how bad an iPhone camera is compared to a professional camera. From a professional filmmaker's or photographer's standpoint with a big budget it does not make sense to use an iPhone, if you could afford a real camera.

Here is the video:
There's only so much you can accomplish with a tiny sensor.
Quite frankly, I think the quality we can get from these tiny things is miraculous already.
 
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