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$2999 for entry model: what do you think?
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yea judging by what some people are saying some of the cpus and gpus cost .. it seems like the 8 core will be an extra 1200 .. the 12 core an extra 2500 and the d700s possible another 3k
yea judging by what some people are saying some of the cpus and gpus cost .. it seems like the 8 core will be an extra 1200 .. the 12 core an extra 2500 and the d700s possible another 3k
Yea ouch hehe, now i just keep asking myself hex bundle or quad hmm speed wise in rendering?
would be nice to know, if there will be an option to go with 6 - 8 - 12 cores but stay with the fire pro 300.
You're using FCPX and Motion right? More cores( also base clocks also helps ), and decent gpu's are important. Don't forget Apple are making them to take full advantage of the new MP.
At the moment FCPX just uses at most around 50-60% of my 6 Core CPU, pity Activity Monitor doesn't show GPU usage.
I'd say the new MP even the quad would be substantially faster than your Mac Mini, just because of the two dedicated GPUs.
yes you can ^_^
http://store.apple.com/ie/buy-mac/mac-pro
It shows Quad Core- upgradeable to the 8-12 core, with D300's still.
Just click on tech specs.
Pricing up the 27" iMac to include the 3.5Ghz Quad, 16GB of RAM, GTX780M, and 256GB SSD would cost me 2848.99.
Considering it comes with a 27" Cinema Display it makes the Base Mac Pro look even worse.
The differences are essentially dual D300's, and extra ports.
I'd be interested to see how the Base MP matches against this iMac.
Considering it comes with a 27" Cinema Display it makes the Base Mac Pro look even worse.
The differences are essentially dual D300's, and extra ports.
I'd be interested to see how the Base MP matches against this iMac.
Thanks for that info
im really excited to see the upgrade from i5 mac mini hehe oh yes motion and fcpx
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iStat menus does, or you used to be able to use the OpenGL Drive Debugger from Xcode to get lots of info, though I'm not sure where that is in newer versions of Xcode, haven't had to use it in a while.
The quad-core xeon should be around 15% faster than the quad-core i7 before you even start taking into account the RAM, PCIe SSD and GPUs.
And those may not even be benchmarks for the correct parts, so they may even be faster
The quad-core xeon should be around 15% faster than the quad-core i7 before you even start taking into account the RAM, PCIe SSD and GPUs.
And those may not even be benchmarks for the correct parts, so they may even be faster
I can't imagine a 6 core speed with dual d500 and 16gb of ram
totally insane heheI think apple is showing us the wisdom of not preannouncing products. 6 months is way to much time to play fill-in-blanks.
Look at what the big guys are selling....
Compared to a 24-core system with 512 GiB of RAM and quad GPUs - totally crippled....
But it does look good when compared with an Imac.
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On the other hand, people were beginning to believe that Apple had abandoned the higher performance market.
The new Mac Mini Pro pre-announcement probably kept some people from jumping ship.
I can't imagine a 6 core speed with dual d500 and 16gb of ram
Compared to a 24-core system with 512 GiB of RAM and quad GPUs - totally crippled....
But it does look good when compared with an Imac.
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On the other hand, people were beginning to believe that Apple had abandoned the higher performance market.
The new Mac Mini Pro pre-announcement probably kept some people from jumping ship.
The pre-announcement was final confirmation that Apple was indeed leaving the performance market.
Unfortunate, but helpful in planning transition away from Mac.
I see that it was intended to and it's a good point...
...but given the radical design departure, I think the gesture has been lost.
Having these in the hands of thousands within days of announcement would have prevented so much guess work. We would know the real world strengths and weaknesses of the new design and be able to make our decisions accordingly. Quickly and cleanly.
The quad-core xeon should be around 15% faster than the quad-core i7 before you even start taking into account the RAM, PCIe SSD and GPUs.
And those may not even be benchmarks for the correct parts, so they may even be faster
Comparing a 3.7 GHz Xeon with a 2.6 GHz i7 is not really apples to apples here. A better comparison would be an i7-4770k. And even the plain Jane 4770 (non-K) beats that Xeon. This makes the Hackwell Pro look even more appetizing than the TrashCan Pro, especially given you'll spend far less on one than you would with the Unobtanium Cigar Tube and its necessitated TB/TB2 accessories.
The Xeons have an advantage in cache in some configurations, but their main selling point in a GPU oriented system is going to be the extra PCIe lanes. The Xeon platform can support two full x16 GPUs instead of two GPUs stuck at x8 as with the Haswell setup. But the modest performance gains on that front aren't worth the price of admission in most cases.
Apple chose form over function again as has been the case with every machine other than the previous lineup of Mac Pros. I'm quite glad I chose both function and form with my Cosmos II setup. It's big. It's bulky, but it: a) holds every last thing I need and then some in one spot, b) takes up one power cord slot on my line conditioner, c) lets me swap out any component when I want or need to in order to facilitate upgrade paths, d) has cooling options the TrashCan Pro could only dream of, e) gives me enough ports to play with, including two forms of digital audio (S/PDIF and HDMI/DP), and f) it just freaking looks cool.
The TrashCan Pro is geared specifically toward a very specific niche, and sadly fails to provide for the needs of the people that wanted something...better. It has value, but only to those in that niche. For the rest of us, it's more expenses all around on the hardware side than many would bargain for, and that doesn't factor in any software upgrades that might be necessary.
For what it offers, the TrashCan Pro's pricing is not out of line, which you'll see if you source out the cost of the individual components as best you can. It's just that the whole is definitely less than the sum of its parts this time around.
go back and read post the origin of this post. 459. It is in context of Mac mini. No i7 4770 , let alone 'k' version, is going to fit in mini. So the apples to oranges misdirection is your post.
There are Haswell , 'v3', Xeons . Xeons is aproduct name prefix. Haswell is a microarchtecture codename. Two vastly different things. What is muddled above is difference between high I/o , high performance designs , Xeon E5 , and mainstream desktop/laptop designs . Wheather , they are worth the price is dependent upon workload.
Im looking to upgrade my external drive for the new mac pro i have a 6tb wd usb 2, should i get the thunderbolt 6tb now or should i wait for thunderbolt 2 drives?
3.5ghz quad i7 vs 3.7ghz quad Xeon
Which Processor is faster?
3.5ghz quad i7 vs 3.7ghz quad Xeon?
So which is the faster processor for Logic X?
I think Logic supports hyper threading also....
It's basically iMac maxed out vs base level Mac Pro...
Which would be better for Logic Pro... How much faster at a guess do you think it will be?
I don't really need a top monitor and don't really need to graphics cards what do you suggest i go for?
Which Processor is faster?
3.5ghz quad i7 vs 3.7ghz quad Xeon?
So which is the faster processor for Logic X?
I think Logic supports hyper threading also....
It's basically iMac maxed out vs base level Mac Pro...
Which would be better for Logic Pro... How much faster at a guess do you think it will be?
I don't really need a top monitor and don't really need to graphics cards what do you suggest i go for?
Probably not a great difference between the two processors but that doesn't tell the whole story. As was stated in previous posts, you have to also look at the total architecture of the two machines and what they are capable of doing when you put a load on them.
Including the dual GPUs, which have the potential of adding very significant robustness to the Mac Pro if the software utilizes OpenCl. I can't imagine Apple not doing this with it's own Logic Pro X.
I think a wait and see attitude is the best for those doing audio work. I'm sure someone will be putting the nMac Pro through it's paces. Apple always uses Logic Pro when boasting about the new Mac Pros specs.
The saddest thing is that if it tanks due to poor sales, they'll just say there's no demand for a Pro desktop - and not accept that in reality, that they just priced the damn thing way too high.
And I have to agree with other sentiments - why was dual GPU preferred over larger internal storage, memory, or dual CPU options. It seems a strange decision.
And I have to agree with other sentiments - why was dual GPU preferred over larger internal storage, memory, or dual CPU options. It seems a strange decision.
Is this just an indulgence for home use?
Just thinking about something more powerful CPU/GPU-wide than my 2012 Mac Mini.
Usage would mostly be Lightroom stuff, Blu-ray ripping/archiving, and home video editing/rendering.
I don't want an iMac at all or even a Macbook at this point.
I'm thinking this will be my last PC ever so why not go big. The problem is most of these specs are beyond me.
Just thinking about something more powerful CPU/GPU-wide than my 2012 Mac Mini.
Usage would mostly be Lightroom stuff, Blu-ray ripping/archiving, and home video editing/rendering.
I don't want an iMac at all or even a Macbook at this point.
I'm thinking this will be my last PC ever so why not go big. The problem is most of these specs are beyond me.
I agree with you completely.
I don't understand the sentiment that the iMac is in-between the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro line. For those of us who have expensive monitors already, the iMac is a non-starter. I am also concerned about heat issues and longevity of the iMac. I ended up putting my cash into upgrading an older Mac Pro as opposed to waiting for the Trash Can Mac as the storage doesn't cut it for me. Again, since i have a NAS, repurchasing a TB enclosure doesn't make sense for me either.