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lowendlinux

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It's the width of the N6 I found made it just that bit too big. (Rather than height)

it's 3.07 v 3.27

But yes it is wide. The thing that made me look it up was my IT guy has a 6+ so I put mine on top of his and was surprised at the similarity in size.
 

spinedoc77

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Just to touch on the edge debate, I found this very interesting. It's a video of the unreleased successor to the Nokia 1020. What I found fascinating is around 2 minutes they demonstrate that the phone had software which would detect how you were gripping the phone and use that information to rotate, or not rotate the screen. I've mentioned before the rumors before the SP4 came out where it was rumored to have software bezels which could adjust themselves whether it was in tablet or desktop mode. http://www.winbeta.org/news/long-dead-nokia-mclaren-windows-phone-surfaces-video

I just find it interesting that no one is really doing anything to change this. Microsoft seemed to be taking steps that way, but nothing has surfaced. In this day and age of $99 flagships the top oems are going to have to offer something much more than what they offer today, or they will suffer. I'd think a completely bezel-less phone with "smart bezels" as you would might give them that differentiation.
 

epicrayban

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Just to touch on the edge debate, I found this very interesting. It's a video of the unreleased successor to the Nokia 1020. What I found fascinating is around 2 minutes they demonstrate that the phone had software which would detect how you were gripping the phone and use that information to rotate, or not rotate the screen. I've mentioned before the rumors before the SP4 came out where it was rumored to have software bezels which could adjust themselves whether it was in tablet or desktop mode. http://www.winbeta.org/news/long-dead-nokia-mclaren-windows-phone-surfaces-video

I just find it interesting that no one is really doing anything to change this. Microsoft seemed to be taking steps that way, but nothing has surfaced. In this day and age of $99 flagships the top oems are going to have to offer something much more than what they offer today, or they will suffer. I'd think a completely bezel-less phone with "smart bezels" as you would might give them that differentiation.

Neat stuff. Software will eventually have to adapt to new form factors. Maybe Samsung/Apple or whoever else can continue something similar.
 

Surf Donkey

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Wow: http://pocketnow.com/2016/06/10/lenovo-demo-bendable-phone-and-tablet-prototypes Right at 11:30 watch the LG prototype tablet fold in half to become a phone. Supposedly LG has moved from research phase to actual development phase with some type of foldable device so we may see foldable screens sooner than anticipated. Without a doubt this is what I'm excited about.

LG? wasn't this from the Lenovo conference last month? And yeah, I linked it, but no one around here cared because it isn't Apple or Samsung.
 

AppleRobert

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Moto Z on display at BB for $699.

A quick play with it showed a rather impressive display, light weight for its size and great feeling in hand, and 2k ram still available with about 10 apps opened.

With its resolution coupled with a smallish battery though and at that price, ......
 

MRU

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Moto Z on display at BB for $699.

A quick play with it showed a rather impressive display, light weight for its size and great feeling in hand, and 2k ram still available with about 10 apps opened.

With its resolution coupled with a smallish battery though and at that price, ......
Yeah a $699 phone in the USA will work out around €850 here with 23% VAT TAX added. That's seriously upper echelon price tier wise ...
 

Tig Bitties

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I'm extremely satisfied with my recent purchase of the Nexus 6P, running a custom ROM, this phone is fantastic. Could it be better ? Of course yes. But every phone seems like it could always be a little better.

Right now the HTC Nexus just seems like the typical annual hardware upgrade, sure it will be better then the current 6P, but realistically, how much better at the end of the day ?

To me it's software being the #1 upgrade or important feature. And a Nexus as far as Android goes, is covered there.

Just like the iPhone 6S Plus, it's the best Apple phone ever, will the new iPhone 6SS be better ? Yeah I guess, but iOS 10 on the 6S will run like a champ too.

I really think phones are getting like the Video Card industry for PC Gamers. Back in the day, years ago, every year a new card was a pretty big upgrade in performance, it was nVidia vs. ATI trading blows, each new card release was much better then previous generations. But then even that industry slowed, and now last gen cards are still very good performers, compared to new gen cards. You need to go back a couple generation of cards to see a massive performance difference between the newest cards.
 
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Tig Bitties

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Yawn, zzz... who cares. The iPhone is so dated, feels like something stuck in last decade. Apple has been dropping the ball big time on iOS the last several years.

We need another competitor out there. #1 king is stock vanilla Android. And Windows Phone seems on life support, and the iPhone just blows.
 

The Game 161

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Yawn, zzz... who cares. The iPhone is so dated, feels like something stuck in last decade. Apple has been dropping the ball big time on iOS the last several years.

We need another competitor out there. #1 king is stock vanilla Android. And Windows Phone seems on life support, and the iPhone just blows.
The OS is still very good though that's why it's always dependable. The one thing I'm looking forward to with the new plus version is the camera. If this duel camera is as good as I hope it will be.

Right now that's all we know about it, hopefully they add more to do than what's been rumoured.
 

MRU

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Yawn, zzz... who cares. The iPhone is so dated, feels like something stuck in last decade.

I really like my iPhone and iOS. The new iPhone 7 doesn't interest me as its only incremental update and there is absolutely nothing wrong with my 6S+ or SE and i'll be getting iOS 10 anyway.
 
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John Mcgregor

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Yawn, zzz... who cares. The iPhone is so dated, feels like something stuck in last decade. Apple has been dropping the ball big time on iOS the last several years.

We need another competitor out there. #1 king is stock vanilla Android. And Windows Phone seems on life support, and the iPhone just blows.

Dated? Oh really ...
 

epicrayban

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Bloomberg is saying the iPhone home button will be replaced with a pressure sensitive home button that'll provide haptic feedback to simulate a click (similar to their Macbooks). Great move.

Samsung should do the same and move to a capacitive button, ala OnePlus 3.

Finally, we'll be moving away from physical home buttons -- something I've always wanted.
 

Oohara

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Bloomberg is saying the iPhone home button will be replaced with a pressure sensitive home button that'll provide haptic feedback to simulate a click (similar to their Macbooks). Great move.

Samsung should do the same and move to a capacitive button, ala OnePlus 3.

Finally, we'll be moving away from physical home buttons -- something I've always wanted.
Nice. The haptic feedback touch pad on my MBP is significantly better than the physically moving one on my Air, and I used to think the Air one was heaven compared to everything else on the market. So I'm sure this new home button will be awesome.

Still doesn't put the iPhone 7 on my radar though ;)
 

spinedoc77

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Dated? Oh really ...

In many ways yes, although it's still a great phone overall. But this depends on how you use your phone, what is dated for me may not be dated for you. Of course in the end all that matters are sales.

My biggest gripes are the huge bezels, making the iPhone a much larger phone than it needs to be. Put an iPhone next to last generations Note 5 and it's embarrassing, it will be that much more embarrassing putting an iPhone 7 next to a Note 7. I could point out the screen resolution as well, but that's mainly because I like to use VR and if you don't then I can't blame you for not caring. But VR is something that gets more attention every day and is quite feasible to do on a smartphone, yet the iPhone 7 will probably be released with the same resolution and no other VR support. AMOLED is also nicer and more modern IMO for many reasons, my favorite is the always on display. Another gripe is wireless charging, I love it and almost never use wired charging. I can go on and on, but once again it depends on what your needs are.
 

epicrayban

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Nice. The haptic feedback touch pad on my MBP is significantly better than the physically moving one on my Air, and I used to think the Air one was heaven compared to everything else on the market. So I'm sure this new home button will be awesome.

Still doesn't put the iPhone 7 on my radar though ;)

I actually prefer the touch option when using the trackpad on all my MacBooks. It's just easier. ;)

But it does make a lot of sense to apply the haptic technology to the iPhone home button. I'm not swayed to get the iPhone 7 just because of this either though. I'm more glad that it'll mean the end of physical home buttons in general (hopefully!).
 
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spinedoc77

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Bloomberg is saying the iPhone home button will be replaced with a pressure sensitive home button that'll provide haptic feedback to simulate a click (similar to their Macbooks). Great move.

Samsung should do the same and move to a capacitive button, ala OnePlus 3.

Finally, we'll be moving away from physical home buttons -- something I've always wanted.

If it comes true, which I highly doubt, it seems l ike it would take up the same amount of space anyway. So we are still stuck with that huge chin, and of course the other huge side and top bezels. I remember reading about some technology of putting the home button under the glass/screen and allowing the UI to go on top of it, so no lost space. Not sure if this would work well depending on the UI, but interesting. Personally I have no issue with the home button other than the space it takes.
 

epicrayban

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If it comes true, which I highly doubt, it seems l ike it would take up the same amount of space anyway. So we are still stuck with that huge chin, and of course the other huge side and top bezels. I remember reading about some technology of putting the home button under the glass/screen and allowing the UI to go on top of it, so no lost space. Not sure if this would work well depending on the UI, but interesting. Personally I have no issue with the home button other than the space it takes.

For sure. Design-wise (including the bezels), the iPhone 7 is so far looking incredibly uninspiring. Especially for Apple caliber. Maybe they're saving their best for 2017, but until then I share the same feelings as you if the leaked designs all prove to be true.

They took one tiny step in the right direction by trying to eliminate the antennae lines, but then turned it upwards to frame the device in this weird double U-shape pattern. And worse, they continue to make the band color contrast the actual device color. And, as you've mentioned, they've done little to nothing to improve the bezels and overall footprint of the device.

Given that there is so much room for improvement on the iPhone 6S design, the leaks are disappointing and lackluster. During what we traditionally know as a redesign year, too.

Heck, some parts of it are downright ugly -- the aforementioned antennae lines, and the double camera housing with that weird crater-like hump. Not a fan at all.

My excitement for the new home button is purely to get everybody to move away from physical home buttons on flagship devices. It's about time.
 
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