Phones 2nd Half 2016 - Which top phones on your radar ?

[spinedoc77]

For sure. Design-wise (including the bezels), the iPhone 7 is so far looking incredibly uninspiring. Especially for Apple caliber. Maybe they're saving their best for 2017, but until then I share the same feelings as you if the leaked designs all prove to be true.

They took one tiny step in the right direction by trying to eliminate the antennae lines, but then turned it upwards to frame the device in this weird double U-shape pattern. And worse, they continue to make the band color contrast the actual device color. And, as you've mentioned, they've done little to nothing to improve the bezels and overall footprint of the device.

Given that there is so much room for improvement on the iPhone 6S design, the leaks are disappointing and lackluster. During what we traditionally know as a redesign year, too.

Heck, some parts of it are downright ugly -- the aforementioned antennae lines, and the double camera housing with that weird crater-like hump. Not a fan at all.

My excitement for the new home button is purely to get everybody to move away from physical home buttons on flagship devices. It's about time.

I'm also confused about the whole antenna thing. I never thought they were a big deal, they simply needed to color match them and it seems they went to a heck of a lot of trouble for nothing. Especially seeing how they are still two toned, well if we believe the rumors.

I'm hoping against hope that Apple surprises us. They are usually the masters at secrecy and I honestly think not a single one of these leaked photos are authentic. The market for iPhone clones is humungous, and there are already tons of iPhone 7 clones even though no one knows what it will look like. IMO we are basing our predictions on what some Chinese clone manufacturer decided the iPhone 7 will look like based on rumors. I would think that with the success of the S7/S7 edge 6 months ago Apple would have been able to turn on a dime and change some things around. But then again Apple pretty much banks on consumers paying top prices for their products without considering the technology.

 

[The Game 161]

design is a concern which i get for the new iphone but in terms of the duel camera that could be something really special. wether it will be waterproof or basically water resistant. I'm sure apple have some kind of feature that we have no clue about.

 

[epicrayban]

I'm also confused about the whole antenna thing. I never thought they were a big deal, they simply needed to color match them and it seems they went to a heck of a lot of trouble for nothing. Especially seeing how they are still two toned, well if we believe the rumors.

I'm hoping against hope that Apple surprises us. They are usually the masters at secrecy and I honestly think not a single one of these leaked photos are authentic. The market for iPhone clones is humungous, and there are already tons of iPhone 7 clones even though no one knows what it will look like. IMO we are basing our predictions on what some Chinese clone manufacturer decided the iPhone 7 will look like based on rumors. I would think that with the success of the S7/S7 edge 6 months ago Apple would have been able to turn on a dime and change some things around. But then again Apple pretty much banks on consumers paying top prices for their products without considering the technology.

I would absolutely love it if what Tim Cook meant when he said "doubling down on security" to prevent leaks entails releasing a bunch of varied false leaks to throw people off. And then they reveal something more like what is being rumored for the 2017 iPhone. That would be awesome.

But... it's as you say, "hoping against hope." At this point, I'm rather convinced the leaks are legit as leaks have gotten so damn accurate especially for iPhones. Could Tim Cook have taken advantage of these rumor chasers and given them some misdirection to save the actual surprise? Sure. He's a smart man. That'd be impressive.

 

[Sensamic]

Bloomberg is saying the iPhone home button will be replaced with a pressure sensitive home button that'll provide haptic feedback to simulate a click (similar to their Macbooks). Great move.

Samsung should do the same and move to a capacitive button, ala OnePlus 3.

Finally, we'll be moving away from physical home buttons -- something I've always wanted.

Agreed! I hate physical home buttons since the one on my iphone 4 stopped working correctly after just one year. Still can't understand why it has taken Apple this long to use a capacitive button when android has been doing it since the Nexus S or Nexus One or before even.

Now I hope samsung follows suit also. It's a way more pleasant experience.

 

[spinedoc77]

I would absolutely love it if what Tim Cook meant when he said "doubling down on security" to prevent leaks entails releasing a bunch of varied false leaks to throw people off. And then they reveal something more like what is being rumored for the 2017 iPhone. That would be awesome.

But... it's as you say, "hoping against hope." At this point, I'm rather convinced the leaks are legit as leaks have gotten so damn accurate especially for iPhones. Could Tim Cook have taken advantage of these rumor chasers and given them some misdirection to save the actual surprise? Sure. He's a smart man. That'd be impressive.

I still think all those leaks are fake, but I have faith in Apple's consumer fleecing process. Minimal upgrades, yet record sales, man what a company. All these guesses from iPhone cloners will probably be pretty close because everyone knows how Apple operates.

 

[epicrayban]

Another thought about the rumored iphone 7 design...

In many ways, Apple should be eliminating the antennae lines that frame the device, not the lines that go straight across. HTC and oneplus prove its possible to design antennae lines across nicely.

Apple is instead removing that part and leaving the double U shapes to awkwardly frame the device. The contrasting colors only draw even more attention to them.

Shrug. Not my cup of tea. And disappointing coming from Apple. Not the caliber I've come to expect from them if it all proves true.

 

[Oohara]

Another thought about the rumored iphone 7 design...

In many ways, Apple should be eliminating the antennae lines that frame the device, not the lines that go straight across. HTC and oneplus prove its possible to design antennae lines across nicely.

Apple is instead removing that part and leaving the double U shapes to awkwardly frame the device. The contrasting colors only draw even more attention to them.

Shrug. Not my cup of tea. And disappointing coming from Apple. Not the caliber I've come to expect from them.

The antenna lines never bothered me much honestly, although I can understand why others don't love them. At this point it's rather just boredom that's putting me off from the iP7. I mean, I think the look they have is nice and all, but a more solid refreshment in the design department would have been nice this year.

I've been weighing pros and cons (obsessively, of course ) of going for a Note 7 - but ultimately I think I'll go for it simply because I want something fun and new after two years with the 6 Plus. I mean, in principle I don't dig how the curves diminish the proper productivity area of the display. But I have to admit that as a whole, the onyx Note 7 is quite a slick beast to behold. Samsung went bold - Apple goes for boring. I'll actually be surprised if the sales scale hasn't tipped at least a bit come next September...

 

[epicrayban]

The antenna lines never bothered me much honestly, although I can understand why others don't love them. At this point it's rather just boredom that's putting me off from the iP7. I mean, I think the look they have is nice and all, but a more solid refreshment in the design department would have been nice this year.

I've been weighing pros and cons (obsessively, of course ) of going for a Note 7 - but ultimately I think I'll go for it simply because I want something fun and new after two years with the 6 Plus. I mean, in principle I don't dig how the curves diminish the proper productivity area of the display. But I have to admit that as a whole, the onyx Note 7 is quite a slick beast to behold. Samsung went bold - Apple goes for boring. I'll actually be surprised if the sales scale hasn't tipped at least a bit come next September...

Note 7 looks like it'll be a heck of a good device. I doubt you'll lose too much productivity with the edge screens honestly. Marquis Brown says the new edge panels are even better and further out to the edge of the device than ever before. Meaning more flat surface area than what the s7 edge offers. This also helps even more with preventing false touches, impressions say.

I can't wait to test it out for myself just to see if it's as much of an improvement versus the s7 edge as everyone's making it out to be.

 

[epicrayban]

http://9to5mac.com/2016/08/09/glass-casing-2017-iphone-8/
More evidence of all-glass iPhone next year as Foxconn develops glass casing


Looks like glass will be cool again. I wonder what naysayers will say now that Apple may be backpedaling on all aluminum and LCD screen panels. Personally, I like this direction as I think glass devices look better, feel more premium, and lead to more functionality.

Here are a few thoughts on why I am hyped for the rumored 2017 iPhone:


1) It can lead to Apple's own version of wireless charging. Finally, millions of people who thought or still think it's purely a gimmick will understand the convenience of this. Let's face it, a lot of people simply won't appreciate features until Apple does it (larger screens anyone?). And if they can push the technology so that it's genuinely contact-less charging, we're all the better for it. Technology has to start somewhere. Others have paved the way and if Apple can do what Apple does best -- swoop in when the technology matures and make it even better or more applicable -- the industry will be better for it.

2) It could mean a better design where antennae lines don't have to cut across and around so egregiously as they currently do. The leaked 2016 iPhone looks to right the antennae lines, but I feel like they're removing the wrong ones, leaving what is, in my opinion, two ugly U-shaped antennae lines to awkwardly frame the device. An all glass front/back panel could be smooth, elegant, and sophisticated. You only need to look to Samsung, or the Sony Xperias, or even Apple's own iPhone 4/4S.

3) An OLED front panel will mean they can have their version of some active display. Maybe it lights up as you bring it up or out of your pocket (ala Motorola) or it can just stay on indefinitely and only shut off when it's in a pocket/purse (ala Samsung) or whatever. Either way, the hardware can lead to more functionality. It could also lead to a thinner display panel and a more energy efficient one (yay for battery life).

4) IP rating and certified waterproofing? Again, this is downplayed by some people because it's not currently available on the iPhone, but it's a terrific worry-free feature. It could be another thing naysayers won't fully appreciate (or refuse to appreciate?) until Apple does it themselves.


There are probably a few more, but those are the main reasons for my excitement about the 2017 iPhone rumors.

It would be nice to have reasons to be excited about an iPhone again.

 

[tbayrgs]

http://9to5mac.com/2016/08/09/glass-casing-2017-iphone-8/
More evidence of all-glass iPhone next year as Foxconn develops glass casing


Looks like glass will be cool again. I wonder what naysayers will say now that Apple may be backpedaling on all aluminum and LCD screen panels. Personally, I like this direction as I think glass devices look better, feel more premium, and lead to more functionality.

Here are a few thoughts on why I am hyped for the rumored 2017 iPhone:


1) It can lead to Apple's own version of wireless charging. Finally, millions of people who thought or still think it's purely a gimmick will understand the convenience of this. Let's face it, a lot of people simply won't appreciate features until Apple does it (larger screens anyone?). And if they can push the technology so that it's genuinely contact-less charging, we're all the better for it. Technology has to start somewhere. Others have paved the way and if Apple can do what Apple does best -- swoop in when the technology matures and make it even better or more applicable -- the industry will be better for it.

Agree--wireless charging is great. Except, knowing Apple, their solution will be proprietary (a la Applw Watch). Gotta make that mad accessory money.

2) It could mean a better design where antennae lines don't have to cut across and around so egregiously as they currently do. The leaked 2016 iPhone looks to right the antennae lines, but I feel like they're removing the wrong ones, leaving what is, in my opinion, two ugly U-shaped antennae lines to awkwardly frame the device. An all glass front/back panel could be smooth, elegant, and sophisticated. You only need to look to Samsung, or the Sony Xperias, or even Apple's own iPhone 4/4S.

Sure but this really comes down to preferences regarding aesthetics. I do find it amusing that we bitch about antennae lines but nobody complains about what I find even uglier...the device name, 'designed by', and serial number text on the bottom half. I do agree though that glass allows more flexibility in functionality.

3) An OLED front panel will mean they can have their version of some active display. Maybe it lights up as you bring it up or out of your pocket (ala Motorola) or it can just stay on indefinitely and only shut off when it's in a pocket/purse (ala Samsung) or whatever. Either way, the hardware can lead to more functionality. It could also lead to a thinner display panel and a more energy efficient one (yay for battery life).

I don't care so much about always on display (iOS 10 adds a raise to wake and has great lockscreen notifications) but rather the better display performance. I'd love to see them add an HDR compatible panel like the Note 7. I am curious how Apple will implement 3D Touch as presently it's requires an LCD panel (believe it detects deformity of pixels from pressure, or something like that).

4) IP rating and certified waterproofing? Again, this is downplayed by some people because it's not currently available on the iPhone, but it's a terrific worry-free feature. It could be another thing naysayers won't fully appreciate (or refuse to appreciate?) until Apple does it themselves.

Our your list, this is what I most want. Just great piece of mind.

There are probably a few more, but those are the main reasons for my excitement about the 2017 iPhone rumors.

It would be nice to have reasons to be excited about an iPhone again.

 

[epicrayban]

Agree--wireless charging is great. Except, knowing Apple, their solution will be proprietary (a la Applw Watch). Gotta make that mad accessory money.



Sure but this really comes down to preferences regarding aesthetics. I do find it amusing that we bitch about antennae lines but nobody complains about what I find even uglier...the device name, 'designed by', and serial number text on the bottom half. I do agree though that glass allows more flexibility in functionality.



I don't care so much about always on display (iOS 10 adds a raise to wake and has great lockscreen notifications) but rather the better display performance. I'd love to see them add an HDR compatible panel like the Note 7. I am curious how Apple will implement 3D Touch as presently it's requires an LCD panel (believe it detects deformity of pixels from pressure, or something like that).



Our your list, this is what I most want. Just great piece of mind.

Regarding the device name, serial numbers and legal texts, I guess most people feel that's just part of the legal requirements. It can't be helped. And everything is branded. I think Samsung could do away with the front Samsung logo, but I understand that it's there cause of litigation-reasons.

I'm all for less/smaller branding and legal disclaimers on my devices, for sure. I'm super glad that Tmobile doesn't brand the carrier logo/name on their devices too (ATT, Verizon... disgusting).

 

[spinedoc77]

http://9to5mac.com/2016/08/09/glass-casing-2017-iphone-8/
More evidence of all-glass iPhone next year as Foxconn develops glass casing


Looks like glass will be cool again. I wonder what naysayers will say now that Apple may be backpedaling on all aluminum and LCD screen panels. Personally, I like this direction as I think glass devices look better, feel more premium, and lead to more functionality.

Here are a few thoughts on why I am hyped for the rumored 2017 iPhone:


1) It can lead to Apple's own version of wireless charging. Finally, millions of people who thought or still think it's purely a gimmick will understand the convenience of this. Let's face it, a lot of people simply won't appreciate features until Apple does it (larger screens anyone?). And if they can push the technology so that it's genuinely contact-less charging, we're all the better for it. Technology has to start somewhere. Others have paved the way and if Apple can do what Apple does best -- swoop in when the technology matures and make it even better or more applicable -- the industry will be better for it.

2) It could mean a better design where antennae lines don't have to cut across and around so egregiously as they currently do. The leaked 2016 iPhone looks to right the antennae lines, but I feel like they're removing the wrong ones, leaving what is, in my opinion, two ugly U-shaped antennae lines to awkwardly frame the device. An all glass front/back panel could be smooth, elegant, and sophisticated. You only need to look to Samsung, or the Sony Xperias, or even Apple's own iPhone 4/4S.

3) An OLED front panel will mean they can have their version of some active display. Maybe it lights up as you bring it up or out of your pocket (ala Motorola) or it can just stay on indefinitely and only shut off when it's in a pocket/purse (ala Samsung) or whatever. Either way, the hardware can lead to more functionality. It could also lead to a thinner display panel and a more energy efficient one (yay for battery life).

4) IP rating and certified waterproofing? Again, this is downplayed by some people because it's not currently available on the iPhone, but it's a terrific worry-free feature. It could be another thing naysayers won't fully appreciate (or refuse to appreciate?) until Apple does it themselves.


There are probably a few more, but those are the main reasons for my excitement about the 2017 iPhone rumors.

It would be nice to have reasons to be excited about an iPhone again.

Glass is more modern and useful. Metal phones seem like a throwback, like getting a classic car. Sure it has nice aesthetics, but functionally it's inferior, you need antenna lines, can't wireless charge, etc. I can't understand how someone wouldn't want wireless charging. Just to be able to plop your phone down in the car, home or office is amazing. No more fumbling around with a plug, especially with something like constantly getting in and out of a car.
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Sure but this really comes down to preferences regarding aesthetics. I do find it amusing that we bitch about antennae lines but nobody complains about what I find even uglier...the device name, 'designed by', and serial number text on the bottom half. I do agree though that glass allows more flexibility in functionality.

YES YES and YES, oh did I mention YES. Why do I pay top dollar for a device AND let the manufacturer advertise all over it? This is true in any industry, vehicles, clothes, etc. I just always wondered that, shouldn't I be paid to advertise? If Samsung forces me to advertise with their logo plastered on the front of my phone, why did I pay $900 for it again?
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Regarding the device name, serial numbers and legal texts, I guess most people feel that's just part of the legal requirements. It can't be helped. And everything is branded. I think Samsung could do away with the front Samsung logo, but I understand that it's there cause of litigation-reasons.

I'm all for less/smaller branding and legal disclaimers on my devices, for sure. I'm super glad that Tmobile doesn't brand the carrier logo/name on their devices too (ATT, Verizon... disgusting).

I understand Samsung's litigation issues, but how does a company like Huawei get away with no branding on the front like the 6p? Just curious as I see the litigation thing come up often in defense of the branding.

 

[epicrayban]

Did Apple's slumping sales get them to change their plan about the iPhone Plus Pro model?



http://www.phonearena.com/news/Repo...nts-planned-but-one-has-been-scrapped_id84034

Report says there were three iPhone 7 variants planned, but one has been scrapped

According to the post in question, Apple did, indeed, plan to release three heavy-hitting iPhone 7 models, as was leaked so many times. However, dwindling growth and shaky sales made Cupertinians reconsider. For the second fiscal quarter of 2016, the company reported a drop in sales year-over-year for the first time in the iPhone's history, though, they were back up and soaring in Q3. Apparently, the slight dip still made the company cancel plans of further diversifying its portfolio, at least for now.




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Glass is more modern and useful. Metal phones seem like a throwback, like getting a classic car. Sure it has nice aesthetics, but functionally it's inferior, you need antenna lines, can't wireless charge, etc. I can't understand how someone wouldn't want wireless charging. Just to be able to plop your phone down in the car, home or office is amazing. No more fumbling around with a plug, especially with something like constantly getting in and out of a car.
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YES YES and YES, oh did I mention YES. Why do I pay top dollar for a device AND let the manufacturer advertise all over it? This is true in any industry, vehicles, clothes, etc. I just always wondered that, shouldn't I be paid to advertise? If Samsung forces me to advertise with their logo plastered on the front of my phone, why did I pay $900 for it again?
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I understand Samsung's litigation issues, but how does a company like Huawei get away with no branding on the front like the 6p? Just curious as I see the litigation thing come up often in defense of the branding.

Good question. I don't know.

Regarding Samsung, I forget exactly where I read that Samsung puts their logo upfront to avoid litigation issues with Apple. I don't know for sure that's the reason they do. I'm simply saying I'd understand if that's the reason.

I'm all for less branding and legal text on my devices, too!

 

[Michael Goff]

Did Apple's slumping sales get them to change their plan about the iPhone Plus Pro model?



http://www.phonearena.com/news/Repo...nts-planned-but-one-has-been-scrapped_id84034

Report says there were three iPhone 7 variants planned, but one has been scrapped

According to the post in question, Apple did, indeed, plan to release three heavy-hitting iPhone 7 models, as was leaked so many times. However, dwindling growth and shaky sales made Cupertinians reconsider. For the second fiscal quarter of 2016, the company reported a drop in sales year-over-year for the first time in the iPhone's history, though, they were back up and soaring in Q3. Apparently, the slight dip still made the company cancel plans of further diversifying its portfolio, at least for now.




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Good question. I don't know.

Regarding Samsung, I forget exactly where I read that Samsung puts their logo upfront to avoid litigation issues with Apple. I don't know for sure that's the reason they do. I'm simply saying I'd understand if that's the reason.

I'm all for less branding and legal text on my devices, too!

And now that leaks have shown two phones, leaks from reliable sources, we're now getting how the third was "scrapped". It's almost like they're covering their mistake or something.

 

[epicrayban]

Well, probably means the dual camera pro model was scrapped, which sucks because it means we're losing out on the only significant upgrade/improvement in the dual camera.

On the plus side (pun intended ), means I definitiely won't be considering upgrading, thus money saved, thus happy wife.

Scrapped? Or just made into the default Plus model? I think the latter.

If any ounce of that story is true, then I think Apple has recognized they can't "diversify" (read: maximize profits) as much as they've been used to this year. The competition is too great, which is all good for the consumers.

I believe it means Apple will simply make the default Plus model be the one to have all the same bells and whistles (at the very least, the dual camera) that were originally planned for a profit-smashing Plus Pro model. In other words, they simply can't get away with that this year.

Maybe a few things were scrapped, but I think the dual camera will still be on the Plus model. Apple has to have something to work with that can be seen as innovative or novel this year.

EDIT: Again, this is why I prefer Samsung's no compromise S7/S7 Edge combo; they have the exact same cameras.
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And now that leaks have shown two phones, leaks from reliable sources, we're now getting how the third was "scrapped". It's almost like they're covering their mistake or something.

I agree. It explains why we saw so many three-model leaks earlier in the year, and why now seeing mainly only two-models.

We'll know more in September, but I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if that story is accurate.

Again, this is actually good for a company who's been cruising. It's that "kick in the butt" that's been needed. And now -- if the story is true -- consumers will get more for their value.

 

[jamezr]

Regarding Samsung, I forget exactly where I read that Samsung puts their logo upfront to avoid litigation issues with Apple. I don't know for sure that's the reason they do. I'm simply saying I'd understand if that's the reason.

I'm all for less branding and legal text on my devices, too!

I think that was from the first round of lawsuits from Apple. To avoid any further suits they put the logo on the front to quell Apple's attempt at a copying lawsuit.

 

[spinedoc77]

I wonder if the iPhone 7 will have the features the pro might have had. The entire reason for a "pro" would be to charge more money. But they can't really jack up the price of the 7s plus non pro, so I'm not sure they would bother putting more bells and whistles on it. They will just save it for the ip8.

 

[tbayrgs]

I wonder if the iPhone 7 will have the features the pro might have had. The entire reason for a "pro" would be to charge more money. But they can't really jack up the price of the 7s plus non pro, so I'm not sure they would bother putting more bells and whistles on it. They will just save it for the ip8.

I thought that article stated the non-Pro plus model would be getting the ax, not the Pro model.
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Scrapped? Or just made into the default Plus model? I think the latter.

If any ounce of that story is true, then I think Apple has recognized they can't "diversify" (read: maximize profits) as much as they've been used to this year. The competition is too great, which is all good for the consumers.

I believe it means Apple will simply make the default Plus model be the one to have all the same bells and whistles (at the very least, the dual camera) that were originally planned for a profit-smashing Plus Pro model. In other words, they simply can't get away with that this year.

Maybe a few things were scrapped, but I think the dual camera will still be on the Plus model. Apple has to have something to work with that can be seen as innovative or novel this year.

EDIT: Again, this is why I prefer Samsung's no compromise S7/S7 Edge combo; they have the exact same cameras.

Yeah, I hadn't read far enough. Looks like they'll be scrapping the non-Pro model if rumor is true so that's good. Do agree though that I wish they offered the same in both sizes---either a pro and regular model of each or just the same single model.

 

[epicrayban]

One of the clearest leaks yet:

Pretty sure these will be the new iPhones.

And the front:

Is that the non-physical home button? I hope so.

More here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gold...he-camera-check-out-the-pictures-here_id84076

 

[spinedoc77]

I thought that article stated the non-Pro plus model would be getting the ax, not the Pro model.
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Yeah, I hadn't read far enough. Looks like they'll be scrapping the non-Pro model if rumor is true so that's good. Do agree though that I wish they offered the same in both sizes---either a pro and regular model of each or just the same single model.

That's what I meant, if Apple is now releasing only one plus/pro model they are either going to jack up the price, or cut out features which were intended for the pro. I can't see Apple giving away anything for free.

 

[Fireblade]

I am not an iPhone hater, but this is just.... let's say "not beautiful".
The antenna lines and camera bump are ugly IMO and the front is looking kind of dated with all those enormous bezels...

 

[epicrayban]

I am not an iPhone hater, but this is just.... let's say "not beautiful".
The antenna lines and camera bump are ugly IMO and the front is looking kind of dated with all those enormous bezels...

Agree completely. Very uninspiring design. The contrasting double U-shape antennae lines that are leftover frame the device so awkwardly.

And the design for the cameras... again, Apple's obsession with thinness forces their hand in how the camera protrudes out. The camera nub on the regular model reminds me of a meteor crater:

 

[Tig Bitties]

One of the clearest leaks yet:

Pretty sure these will be the new iPhones.

And the front:

Is that the non-physical home button? I hope so.

More here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gold...he-camera-check-out-the-pictures-here_id84076

Wow lame. The iPhone is just so boring and predictable looking, huge outdated bezels, ugly backside. And iOS LOL sucks, feels like something stuck in 2008 still.

I'm shocked Apple isn't trying harder. They could make a kick ass phone, and make iOS even better. But seems liked they stopped giving a crap last few years.

 

[Michael Goff]

Wow lame. The iPhone is just so boring and predictable looking, huge outdated bezels, ugly backside. And iOS LOL sucks, feels like something stuck in 2008 still.

I'm shocked Apple isn't trying harder. They could make a kick ass phone, and make iOS even better. But seems liked they stopped giving a crap last few years.

iOS, to me, feels like a predictable OS. And that's what I want with my DD. It doesn't have to be exciting, it has to be reliable/fast/etcetera.

 

[M5RahuL]

So far I'm liking iOS 10 ( reg. dev ) but cannot stand the device itself!

I'm sick of seeing colored backs with white fronts!!! Why can't the gold be gold in front too..!

Oh well, good thing the Note 7 is as beautiful as it is (more) functional esp with water proofing!