I was thinking... what about Wine? Of course it's been 64-bits for quite a while, but will it be able to run 32-bit windows apps? I'm pretty sure it will, but I'd be great if someone could test it out. I have *loads* of windows games running off Wine.
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32-bit programs in macOS 10.15
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Your incompatible apps will remain as-is afaik. Catalina won’t let them run, but it won’t delete them automatically either.
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Last time I test Catalina, wine staging is disabled. I have never figured out a way to use command line version of Wine.
According to the Wine FAQ, the 64 bit version of WINE has problems with macOS:
OSX has a ABI incompatibility with Win64 - OSX overwrites a CPU register that Win64 applications expect to remain untouched. Apple can’t change the ABI because there are already 64 bit OSX apps that expect things to work that way. A potential workaround may be to run Wine inside a CPU emulator like qemu, but that is anything but easy.
Source: https://www.winehq.org/wwn/364#Wine64 on Mac OS X
Rosetta solution won’t happen didn’t for IOS
We should boycott big companies like Epson that won’t update apps for a couple of year old devices. Some little developers may not have ability but the big guys no excuse
We should boycott big companies like Epson that won’t update apps for a couple of year old devices. Some little developers may not have ability but the big guys no excuse
There is a workaround for the segment register issue, but it may still fail, but extremely rare according to the developers.
There was a problem with the auto updating system. I made sure I had the 64-bit version when it became available. The auto update system has at some point pulled in something that is 32-bit, although once launched it was the 64-bit part.
Steam was disabled after first installing Catalina for me, simple solution was to redownload the client from the website.
After I did that I'm no longer getting the warning about Steam being a 32 bit application.
I have a similar keyboard and never installed the software
It will work as a regular keyboard but some of the special keys might not do anything
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Steam has been updated to 64 Bit. Just download and install the new version: https://store.steampowered.com/about/
Thanks! I would have thought the auto-update would have taken care of it but manually reinstalling seems to have done the trick.
CodeWeavers (CrossOver developer) is currently working on a wrapper that will allow 32 bit Windows programs to run under their 64 bit version of WINE from Catalina. Right now Mojave issues a warning even when using the 64 bit version of CrossOver to run a Windows 32 bit app.
I doubt Crossover will be able to provide the support for 32 either. The change over is going to be software and hardware level. They can tinker with API's to the end of the road. But SIP will not be persistent in the Gold release and it won't matter because exec32 will be disabled in EFI at that time. The processor will not be accepting those calls anyway from the dev notes - it will be calling a disconnected number. It's a good thing. It was time to make this happen and kick the 16/32 legacies to the curb, both windows and macOS have been in this weird limbo state for almost 15 years trying to keep backwards compatibility for zero payoff and handicapping forward progression. I really dig that the nextstep attitude has returned to Apple. They did push the envelope at one time and that's what made people want to use a Mac, it's time they really got back to the Mac and this looks more like that than any keynote or ad campaign.
As I look through my list of 32 bit apps a couple are actually Apple apps. Some like Quick Time 7 has been replaced by Apple but 7 still exists. Would be nice if Apple got rid of these old versions when they installed new ones. Or get rid when they can't run anymore with the next update.
I have found that quite a large number of 64 bit apps contain bits and pieces of 32 bit code in such things as update checkers or parts of installers and things like that. I wonder how Catalina will handle these things. Will the entire app not run, or will the update checker (in that case as an example) fail to run? I predict a lot of stuff won't be fully compatible for a long time after release unless it is a high volume current product.
Ubuntu quickly reversed their decision to end 32 bit support.
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19...s-it-will-continue-to-support-32-bit-packages
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19...s-it-will-continue-to-support-32-bit-packages
Sad. I still have a handful of awesome games that will be 32bit forever. At least Microsoft Windows will support 32bit longer than macOS for sure.
Completely agree. This decision was all about Apple and the cost structure of support, and not at all about their customers. There is zero benefit to the end users, whether they use 32 bit apps or not. Only the end user is allowed to define what apps are fun and/or useful.
The only reason I’ll be staying with Mojave (my Mac has still 5-6 years of life left) is Quick Time 7. The new QT is awful compared to 7.
i've always depended on QT7, but... what's missing for you? you can edit, record, loop... think i'll survive without it (either way, QT7 alone is not enough to have kept me from moving to 10.15).